News Intel Prevails In Client CPU Sales, But Threadripper Pro Outsold Xeon Nearly 20:1 : Report

[Admin]

Custom PC builder Puget Systems has published its sales data for processors, graphics cards, and storage - among other tidbits.

Intel Prevails In Client CPU Sales, But Threadripper Pro Outsold Xeon Nearly 20:1 : Report : Read more

 

[Deleted member 14196]

Not surprised at all. All of our systems from Puget are thread ripper’s. They are the nicest AND FASTEST machines I have ever used.

no gaming nonsense just pure software development and building

 

[hotaru251]

not shocking.

AM5 has been costly to adopt vs intel's. 13th gen.


and again not shocking...AMD just murders intel on workstation stuff.

 

[bit_user]

GeForce RTX 4090 blower models are on the market if you look hard enough. But it's rare, and even the vendor fears putting its name on it.

Reminds me of how Nvidia workstation cards are also mysteriously the only ones that have the supplemental power connector on the end, which allows them to fit a 3U case.

As for that GPU, the normal way to figure out whose card it is would be to look at the FCC ID, silk screened on the PCB. That model was reportedly bought in Japan, and therefore might not have undergone FCC testing, but they must do something similar.

However, it could turn out that some independent company bought already-made RTX 4090's and then simply swapped the axial fan cooler with a blower type and resold them. In that case, the original manufacturer might not have any knowledge of who's doing it.

On a related note, I've seen on ebay where some sellers are offering aftermarket BIOS chips. I believe these can be used to trick a consumer card into thinking it's a workstation model, at least for the Radeon VII that I saw them for. In Nvidia's case, it could do things like unlocking some limiter on the tensor cores, if such hacks exist for them.

 

[bit_user]

not shocking.

AM5 has been costly to adopt vs intel's. 13th gen.

Not relevant, when we're talking about customers of a boutique builder like Puget.

Just to test it out, I configured a mini-tower with a 7950X and the price came out to $3502.63. I then configured a mini-tower with a i9-13900K (same RAM and GPU) and it came out to $3585.43! Even if it had been the other way around, anyone spending a whopping $3.5k on a mainstream desktop-class machine with a mere 32 GB of RAM and a RTX 3060 Ti GPU won't flinch at a price difference of a mere $80 or so.

Same goes for GPUs, where the main argument for AMD GPUs is better perf/$. That's why Puget can afford to be Nvidia-exclusive - their customers aren't very price-sensitive.

 

[Jimbojan]

Puget sale does not represent the whole industry sale, Intel's data center business last quarter was $4.3B, while AMD was $1.2B in the same period, clearly your report is distorted at best, if it is not a scam.

 

[Avro Arrow]

This is no surprise. Zen has been crushing Xeon like grapes in a winery ever since EPYC and Threadripper came out. The upcoming EPYCs are poised to virtually eradicate Intel from the data centre space and if a TR version is made of them, Intel will be essentially locked out of the HEDT space as well.

 

[bit_user]

Zen has been crushing Xeon like grapes in a winery ever since EPYC and Threadripper came out.

I'd suggest it really wasn't until Zen 2 that EPYC and Threadripper posed a serious threat to Intel.

The main selling points of the Zen and Zen+ -derived EPYC and Threadripper were their price and PCIe lane-count. Their max of 32 cores wasn't far enough above Intel's 28-core Xeons to be very interesting.

 

[Deleted member 14196]

If you use them for business, they are worth every penny of that 3500 because we’ve replaced about 16 consumer cpu based machines with four

and those new machines aren’t even breaking a sweat.

 

[bit_user]

If you use them for business, they are worth every penny of that 3500 because we’ve replaced about 16 consumer cpu based machines with four

You said you bought ThreadRipper models, though. The default config for their TR systems will cost you $8497.04 - that's with a 24-core CPU, 128 GB RAM (8x16), and a RTX 4080. If you just increase the CPU to the 64-core model, the price jumps to $12,932.98 !!

For a business, it's defensible to spend that kind of money. Even with an aggressive upgrade cycle of 3 years, it's peanuts compared to a professional salary over that time. But businesses also tend to be cheap and look to save money where they can. So, I think most would go with a bigger OEM like Dell or HP, and probably try to do with lower-spec machines, too.

Back in the day, workstations used to cost real money. I remember when an EDA consultant was brought in at a previous job I worked, and they set him up with an UltraSparc workstation that cost like $90k.

 

[rbanffy]

How large and/or representative this company is?

 

[wr3zzz]

Is there no editor at Tomshardware anymore or they just decided to hire writers from Taboola? This is just as bad as the article headline "50% of semiconductor from China failed" but instead it was an article of a Russian newspaper article about Russian importers tried to bypass sanction by buying from illicit sellers in China.

From Tomshardware "Intel and AMD are now even in CPU installs: Report" according to survey in my house.

 

[Avro Arrow]

I'd suggest it really wasn't until Zen 2 that EPYC and Threadripper posed a serious threat to Intel.

The main selling points of the Zen and Zen+ -derived EPYC and Threadripper were their price and PCIe lane-count. Their max of 32 cores wasn't far enough above Intel's 28-core Xeons to be very interesting.

Yeah, that's fair to say. I agree with that.