INTEL RELEASES MOTHER-OF-ALL-FUD DOC

[Action_Man]

I thought dothan held the record because of its huge low latency L2 cache, meh.

 

[Heyyou27]

I think the top score is on a 7GHz prescott, and the second highest is on a 3.5GHz Dothan.

 

[hergieburbur]

Netburst is scalable, but NOT with 90nm. If we had 65nm Netburst chips released instead of stupid Prescott...Intel would've never lost face.

Not so much. Netburst was a bad design from the start and never had any real chance of success in the long run.
Meh, Netburst can do well at uber high clock speeds.
All the best superpi times are on prescotts :O

Exactly, the Netburst architecture requires unreasonably high clock speeds to do well. There are far more effiecient designs for normal use.

 

[ak47is1337]

Netburst is scalable, but NOT with 90nm. If we had 65nm Netburst chips released instead of stupid Prescott...Intel would've never lost face.

Not so much. Netburst was a bad design from the start and never had any real chance of success in the long run.
Meh, Netburst can do well at uber high clock speeds.
All the best superpi times are on prescotts :O

Exactly, the Netburst architecture requires unreasonably high clock speeds to do well. There are far more effiecient designs for normal use.
True. However, at very high clock speeds Netburst is extremely hard to top. And, Intel uses Strained Silicon, so they are reasonable overclockers (provided you have unreasonably good cooling!)
At ~5.0ghz, Netburst will overtake a ~3.0ghz K8.

 

[hergieburbur]

Yeah, but then again, 5.0 GHz to 3.0 GHz is a pretty big margin. You are right, they do overclock great.

I am wondering just how fast you have to OC them to to beat an OCed K8. You always see stock benchmarks, which I think are the ones that matter, but I would sometimes like to see how they compare down the stretch. Like AMD can usually gain 1GHz on P4 at stock give or take. What about at 20% OC or so?

 

[ak47is1337]

Depends what you are comparing to what.

 

[RichPLS]

I have yet to see a dual core AMD overclock to the masses at 3GHz in 24/7 operation stable, which is what I want mine to do.
I have an Opteron 175 with Corsair xPert Pro DDR ram on water.
I would gladly buy another if I could overclock close to 5GHz or more.

 

[moozh]

Netburst is scalable, but NOT with 90nm. If we had 65nm Netburst chips released instead of stupid Prescott...Intel would've never lost face.

*scratches head*

Intel's current lineup of Netburst CPUs (Cedar Mill and Presler) are on 65nm...

Prescott has Netburst technology...

They still lose to AMD overall, but if you're not a gamer they're still in the game.

 

[ak47is1337]

I have yet to see a dual core AMD overclock to the masses at 3GHz in 24/7 operation stable, which is what I want mine to do.
I have an Opteron 175 with Corsair xPert Pro DDR ram on water.
I would gladly buy another if I could overclock close to 5GHz or more.

Intel 955XE's are a good bet for that, but a bit expensive. A 930 can typically hit 4.25 on stock, so I think it's fair to assume you could get 5ghz with lots of voltage and water.

 

[ak47is1337]

Netburst is scalable, but NOT with 90nm. If we had 65nm Netburst chips released instead of stupid Prescott...Intel would've never lost face.

*scratches head*

Intel's current lineup of Netburst CPUs (Cedar Mill and Presler) are on 65nm...

Prescott has Netburst technology...

They still lose to AMD overall, but if you're not a gamer they're still in the game.

Sorry for the confusion, I was referring to the Netburst release. Prescott's just get so damn hot, it's very difficult to get them real competitive without strong solutions.

 

[hergieburbur]

How high can you get your 175 stable?

 

[moozh]

Yeah, mine runs at > 60 degrees celsius in an Antec P180 (w/ four 120mm fans) using a Zalman CNPS7700Cu cooler and silver thermal compound. Netburst for the lose. 🙁

 

[RichPLS]

Booting and benching tops out at ~2680MHz whether I use a 9.5, 10, 10.5 or 11 multiplier. It is not long term stable at that speed.
But is solid at 2530MHz, and I run it 24/7 at 2440 MHz.

That is why I am upgrading to the A8R32-MVP board to see if it will enable me to get closer to 2.8GHz stable. I am also upgrading from my Antec TPII 550 watt PSU to a FSP Epsilon 600 or 700watt PSU

 

[ak47is1337]

Booting and benching tops out at ~2680MHz whether I use a 9.5, 10, 10.5 or 11 multiplier. It is not long term stable at that speed.
But is solid at 2530MHz, and I run it 24/7 at 2440 MHz.

That is why I am upgrading to the A8R32-MVP board to see if it will enable me to get closer to 2.8GHz stable. I am also upgrading from my Antec TPII 550 watt PSU to a FSP Epsilon 600 or 700watt PSU

The 165 I had would run 2.65 or so stable.

 

[hergieburbur]

You should definately be able to go higher with that chip, unless you got a bad one. Then again, I suck at overclocking, so who am I to say?

 

[ak47is1337]

It would do 2.7/2.8 but not totally stable.

 

[ches111]

Those are all weak 🙂

I am now an IBM fanboy!!! I am going to get one of these for my home use:

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/0309-ibm-fastball.html

Just wonder how long it will be before they support SLI?

😀

 

[ak47is1337]

Those are all weak 🙂

I am now an IBM fanboy!!! I am going to get one of these for my home use:

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/0309-ibm-fastball.html

Just wonder how long it will be before they support SLI?

😀

Too bad cell isn't x86 compatible.

 

[corvetteguy]

Still, global warming remains a big issue that humanity will be dealing with.
BTW Warming will happen anyway. The sun gets hotter by the moment. Once it will near it's end life in Earth will be no longer possible due to high temperatures. The atmosphere will fade away. Nothing is ever lasting.

P.S. The smart ass was not directed to you. Sry.

hi, its smart ass, and that will happen in about a half a billion years, so don't overreact, yet.... I'm not going to argue about this anymore with you since, you don't know the difference betwwen reflection, refraction, and absorbtion, sooo, thats all i'm gonna say :roll: