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Still will create air in the pipes, more room for AMD to move in a bit.

It will be interesting to see if AMD sales go up a bit more because of it.
 
Like many people have posted, they should just keep selling them, even for custom builders, and let them know about the issue. They say it could take up to 3 years to start having considerable issues, which is a long time in terms of computers. And if your ports go down, and you have a RAID, make sure your data is backed up, and get a card, not a huge deal. You just have to think a little bit when it comes to these.

By the way, loving my i7-2600k OC'd to 4 GHz and Asus P8P67 Deluxe board, they kick some serious ass. Wouldn't even consider anything older than LGA 1155.
 
[citation][nom]nforce4max[/nom]oh mighty greedtell isn't going to let a few bad chips get them down. Oh well most people still use older sata 3gb/s based devices.[/citation]

how many of them use more than 2?

 
Intel is going to lock the affected sata ports so motherboard vendors can use their "EXTREME SATA PORT UNLOCKER!!!" bios gimmick....
 
illo: Well in the future(circa 2010), almost everyone will have atleast 2 sata devices in any new Sandy Bridge computer(optical and HDD), and a substantial number will have either a:

1. 2nd HDD
2. SSD for their boot drive, or
3. 2nd Optical Drive
4. E-sata device using one of the 3g sata ports

IDE devices have pretty much gone the way of the dinosaur, it's all sata now. So to answer your question, probably atleast half, and as much as 90%.
 
[citation][nom]applegetsmelaid[/nom]Intel's equivalent to Microsoft's Vista. AMD - time to start the bashing campaign now like Apple did and you might just capitalize the market![/citation]

Amazing how much market share they "cut" too when Microsoft made such a huge mistake. Mac is still at what is it the amazing 5% world wide. Clearly proves the loyalty of the Microsoft customers!
 
[citation][nom]wotz_da_dillio[/nom]illo: Well in the future(circa 2010), almost everyone will have atleast 2 sata devices in any new Sandy Bridge computer(optical and HDD), and a substantial number will have either a:1. 2nd HDD2. SSD for their boot drive, or3. 2nd Optical Drive4. E-sata device using one of the 3g sata portsIDE devices have pretty much gone the way of the dinosaur, it's all sata now. So to answer your question, probably atleast half, and as much as 90%.[/citation]

and none of those would be able to use the 6gb ports?
 
I have to say a boo to Intel on this one. Man up and take the hit for selling a defective product. Makes me rethink buying their products if they have a defect and they just ignore it for money.
I understand a business is there to make money but there is a line between making money off quality products and greed.

Makes me rethink waiting for the G3 drives for my old SATA2 system. I use to trust Intel quality over Crucial/Vertex drives.
 
[citation][nom]applegetsmelaid[/nom]Intel's equivalent to Microsoft's Vista. AMD - time to start the bashing campaign now like Apple did and you might just capitalize the market![/citation]

Last time AMD had a "bashing" campaign was when they launched their "Dual core Duel" campaign against Intel. Turns out just weeks after that campaign Intel released Conroe and bitch slapped AMDs ass into the stone age, and they've never recovered the top market position since for CPUs. I think they learnt their lesson that R&D is far more valuable to a company's forward development than fanfare.

One a side note: If you think this is going to dent Intel enough to allow AMD to gain some ground, you are most likely mistaken. It will take a lot more than a circumstantially faulty chipset to clear the Moses path for AMD. And honestly, why is it that every time there is news about Intel there are always the generic "good news for AMD... maybe?" comments? Not every news story about Intel needs to have a direct effect on AMD you know.
 
[citation][nom]wotz_da_dillio[/nom]illo: Well in the future(circa 2010), almost everyone will have atleast 2 sata devices in any new Sandy Bridge computer(optical and HDD), and a substantial number will have either a:1. 2nd HDD2. SSD for their boot drive, or3. 2nd Optical Drive4. E-sata device using one of the 3g sata portsIDE devices have pretty much gone the way of the dinosaur, it's all sata now. So to answer your question, probably atleast half, and as much as 90%.[/citation]

Every SB board I have seen reviewed has at least 2 6Gb/s ports. So your whole post was a waste of time. How many users need more than 4 ports? A very small number. And those that do, likely have the technical know how to understand how to get around the problem.
 
I agree with wotz_da_dillio. In my case, I want to buy the SB processor and an existing P67 board. I don't really care if there's going to be a problem with the SATA II ports because I'm not planning to use them. I'm planning to use just 1 SATA III drive and 1 optical disc drive, so I won't be needing more than 2 ports, but because of Intel's recall, I can't buy anything at all. Besides, it will take a long time before the bug kicks in. This gives Intel ample time to make replacement boards and have them available on the market to replace existing boards. I do hope P67 boards become available again soon.
 


This means that it will probably only ship to OEMs and high end gaming rig builders (who tend to use PCIe cards for better performance).

I doubt we will see any P67/H67 mobos on Newegg yet, or at least until the mobo makers have the fixed chip.

As for AMD, I doubt they will be able to move in. First they have to beat the current generaition of Core i CPUs to do that.
 
[citation][nom]Twist86[/nom]I have to say a boo to Intel on this one. Man up and take the hit for selling a defective product. Makes me rethink buying their products if they have a defect and they just ignore it for money.I understand a business is there to make money but there is a line between making money off quality products and greed.Makes me rethink waiting for the G3 drives for my old SATA2 system. I use to trust Intel quality over Crucial/Vertex drives.[/citation]

You have to say boo to Intel for immediately stopping shipment of a possibly defective product which may only affect a minor % of users after a few years?

This is probably one of the more responsible moves than:
- What nvidia did with the overheating issue for the mobile graphics.
- What Apple did for the iphone antenna

They decided to pull out the product before it even gains widespread use.
 
I swear I remember suggesting this in the previous news report about 700 million dollars! I'm glad intel listened to my suggestion 😛 (though they did modify it slightly)

 
You have the 2 sata 3Gb/s, ports 0 and 1. You have 2 sata 6Gb/s ports. IF you need more ports, which a large majority of users won't, you can buy an expansion card with more sata ports. Am I missing anything? It seems that there is 0% additional risk if you don't use ports 2-5... and if you DO use those ports you have at most a 5% chance to have drive degradation after a few years...

Unless you use more than 4 HD/SSD/DVD (and are too lazy to buy an expansion card) this is really a non-issue... outside the principle of not properly testing hardware before releasing.

I will be buying this chipset asap.
 
Performance laptops with three or more SATA devices will either require the use of a 3Gb/s port, or additional 6Gb/s ports fed by an extra controller. If you have an optical device, it'd make sense to put that on the 3Gb/s ports as you're going to be using it less than any hard drives.
 
[citation][nom]molskin[/nom]You have the 2 sata 3Gb/s, ports 0 and 1. You have 2 sata 6Gb/s ports ... Am I missing anything? [/citation]

Yes, you are missing something.
Ports 0 and 1 are the 6Gb/s ports.
You have no 3Gb/s ports to work with.
You are limited to two devices without a third party SATA controller chip or addon card.

[citation][nom]dan55[/nom]Like many people have posted, they should just keep selling them, even for custom builders, and let them know about the issue.[/citation]

I disagree with selling boards with known issues to DIYers.
You can't account for the stupidity of people, he eagerness of lawyers to pursue stupid cases, or the willingness of courts to rule in their favor.
That said, there is no reason why they shouldn't sell these on boards with these ports removed.
With as many boards as I've seen sporting jMicron/SiliconImage/Broadcom/Etc. controller chips on board, I see no reason why these controllers can't be used in conjunction with this chipset.

[citation][nom]Twist86[/nom]I have to say a boo to Intel on this one. Man up and take the hit for selling a defective product.[/citation]

Most likely Intel's choice to continue selling these chips was influenced by the OEMs that were demanding them. That said, Intel did the proper thing by only selling them in situations where the end user can't be affected. Unknown issues will be handled the same as always. It's kind of like selling a car with spare tires only to find that the spares won't hold air. If you take them out of the vehicle entirely, there is no reason the vehicle should be any less usable. That said, I hope OEMs are getting a discount on the chipsets with defective ports.
 
Intel's chipsets still only support SATA 2.0 so there's not reallya big loss for Intel customers going ahead and buying a third party chip that will pop them up to SATA 3.0.

I think this may be the only area where AMD leads Intel.
 
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