News Intel says Arc Xe4 Druid GPUs are already in the works — Software optimization is the only remaining step for Xe3 Celestial as it approaches launch...

[Admin]

Tom Peterson confirms that Intel's hardware division is working on Druid "Xe4" GPUs as the software team optimizes Celestial "Xe3" for launch next year.

Intel says Arc Xe4 Druid GPUs are already in the works — Software optimization is the only remaining step for Xe3 Celestial as it approaches launch... : Read more

 

[bit_user]

There is still no official confirmation from Intel regarding faster Battlemage GPUs - namely the B750 and B770.

Unless Intel, themselves, are still undecided about whether to launch it, I think it's a mistake not to be transparent about this. Some would-be buyers of B580 might be holding back to see if 700-series models are launched.

 

[thestryker]

It was pretty obvious that the Celestial hardware was already pretty much done and Intel isn't going to stop developing integrated graphics. While it's always good to have official confirmation it was unsurprising.

I think the most interesting thing Tom said in that podcast was actually that Intel wants a 1 year cadence on graphics cores. Obviously from an integrated standpoint this makes sense as Intel releases new CPUs every year. I don't think releasing a full stack of SKUs in discrete every year makes sense though especially given how expensive video cards have become. To have that be viable they would need very precise sales data and given they're the new player in the market I don't think that's possible. Running out of a SKU that turns out unexpectedly popular could be almost as bad as cards sitting on shelves if new GPU cores were constantly on the horizon.

At the same time this could be a very real competitive advantage in the low-mid range segment. If Intel ends up turning out yearly increasing performance in the $200-300 range they'll likely sell every card they make for this segment.

As for future Battlemage SKUs I feel the same as bit_user unless there's a good reason to be keeping it to themselves Intel needs to indicate whether or not a higher end model is coming. CES seems like the time for video card announcements so even if they're not going to give performance numbers this would be the time to yay/nay on whether there will be something coming.

 

[jlake3]

As for future Battlemage SKUs I feel the same as bit_user unless there's a good reason to be keeping it to themselves Intel needs to indicate whether or not a higher end model is coming. CES seems like the time for video card announcements so even if they're not going to give performance numbers this would be the time to yay/nay on whether there will be something coming.

It depends on which leakers you believe, but the rumors I'd heard was that as of November, BCM-G31 had not yet taped out. The source said that B580 had been held back so that they could launch it closer to B770, but then B580 had to launch so that they could meet the 2024 roadmap and now it doesn't look like they will be launching close. What was considered "close" was never defined.

The source and the leaker both seemed to believe that Intel had come too far and invested too cancel BCM-G31 now, but the source said some people internally have a feeling it's doomed... and that was before Pat got shown the door.

So it sounds like Intel may not have made the final decision themselves on if a higher end model sees the light of day or not?

 

[thestryker]

So it sounds like Intel may not have made the final decision themselves on if a higher end model sees the light of day or not?

There was a leak this week that cited volume G31 shipping manifests and R&D shipping of Celestial parts. I'd be surprised if they haven't already made up their minds, but for sure they'd know by CES assuming this is accurate information.

 

[Florida Man]

It was pretty obvious that the Celestial hardware was already pretty much done and Intel isn't going to stop developing integrated graphics. While it's always good to have official confirmation it was unsurprising.

I think the most interesting thing Tom said in that podcast was actually that Intel wants a 1 year cadence on graphics cores. Obviously from an integrated standpoint this makes sense as Intel releases new CPUs every year. I don't think releasing a full stack of SKUs in discrete every year makes sense though especially given how expensive video cards have become. To have that be viable they would need very precise sales data and given they're the new player in the market I don't think that's possible. Running out of a SKU that turns out unexpectedly popular could be almost as bad as cards sitting on shelves if new GPU cores were constantly on the horizon.

At the same time this could be a very real competitive advantage in the low-mid range segment. If Intel ends up turning out yearly increasing performance in the $200-300 range they'll likely sell every card they make for this segment.

As for future Battlemage SKUs I feel the same as bit_user unless there's a good reason to be keeping it to themselves Intel needs to indicate whether or not a higher end model is coming. CES seems like the time for video card announcements so even if they're not going to give performance numbers this would be the time to yay/nay on whether there will be something coming.

Tik Tok approach but for GPUs? 😂