Intel Says SSD Sales Are Not Picking Up Yet

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They should know this by now: cost is holding them back.

The time has passed when you can exploit new technology for crazy prices.
Everyone is too well informed about prices these days.

Also, the reported hard disk crisis is just an excuse to keep the prices high.
 
[citation][nom]nordlead[/nom]no, common sense tells me people will buy the HDDs even though they cost more. Most people will buy a 250GB HDD for $100 over a 64GB SSD for the same price.[/citation]

You can get a sweeeet and faaaast Vertex 3 120GB for 180$ these days... If didnt have a Vertex 2 120, I would have one of these babies in the mail by now.
 
[citation][nom]Montezuma[/nom]SSDs are far to high, even for the increased performance of the drives. The fact that I can purchase a 64GB USB flash drive for around $50 USD, when a 64GB SSD is $100 USD(at best), or [usually] more. I know that a SSD will transfer data faster, outside of the drive, but that does not explain why SSDs cost so much more.A 512GB SSD should be between $200 to $300, or even a little lower. Once SSDs start getting into that price point, then sales will greatly increase. I would be willing to buy three or four, to add to my two current drives.These companies are abusing this supposed hard drive "shortage" to try and push a far more expensive technology. It isn't working.[/citation]

You do realize that the margin in this market are razor thin? Everybody and their mother are making SSDs these days. 2 controllers, 3 memory makers and countless manufacturers are fighting for the market. What you are asking is just consumer pipe dreaming.

Intel should pay me to buy their latest X CPU to! Unjust world, I know...
 
I've been watching prices for a year or more, they have been slowly going down but they seem to have stalled the past few months. Between work and my immediate family we have a total of 7 computers, at least 5 of which I would like to upgrade to SSD's. I have upgraded 1 already, and I will start upgrading the other 4 when prices start going down again.
 
[citation][nom]wolfram23[/nom]No kidding Intel. Why don't you ask Corsair and OCZ how they're doing, though? I bet it's a different story. Mainstream people want fast, and Sandforce is fast.[/citation]

they also want reliable, and intel has that over sandforce.
 
LOL!! Stupid editors. The price and the performance between SSDs and HDDs are so much different that they can be almost categorized as different species!

You can get HDDs as thin as paper, or thick as a brick, they don't come close to the performance of SSDs, which is why they are valued by people who can afford them.
 
The reality of the situations is that SSDs are like crack. They are small, expensive, white when ground into powder, and once you have it you cannot go back. The price is coming down, but they are still paying off dev costs, and perfecting the manufacturing. It will be a little bit before they are ready for 'the common man', but that is the way it always is.
 
[citation][nom]surfer1337dude[/nom]Im not willing to buy until the price drops from roughly $2/gb to around $.75-.50/gb...[/citation]

you will have to wait till the 15~nm process than.

[citation][nom]Montezuma[/nom]SSDs are far to high, even for the increased performance of the drives. The fact that I can purchase a 64GB USB flash drive for around $50 USD, when a 64GB SSD is $100 USD(at best), or [usually] more. I know that a SSD will transfer data faster, outside of the drive, but that does not explain why SSDs cost so much more.A 512GB SSD should be between $200 to $300, or even a little lower. Once SSDs start getting into that price point, then sales will greatly increase. I would be willing to buy three or four, to add to my two current drives.These companies are abusing this supposed hard drive "shortage" to try and push a far more expensive technology. It isn't working.[/citation]

correct me if im wrong, but the thumbdrive is able to make more space by haveing more values... please someone make more sense out of that... but as a result its slower by a LARGE margin, slow to the extent that even as a boot, a normal hdd would be better.

i did the math based on a non price lowered ssd recently, per wafer they get about 21tb of space, and a wafer to my knolage costs 50000$ to make, at 10nm it will cost about 30cents per gb and at 5nm if possible it would cost about 6, and it would still be far higher cost than a hdd, and the hdd will probably be as fast as ssds are right now, minus the seak time, when the 10-5nm process comes into play.

[citation][nom]gallidorn[/nom]It is a very simple solution, but Intel can't see beyond it's own greed! Reduce the cost of SSD's to around $10 more than traditional hard drives of the same capacity. This would take over the hard drive market in record time.The higher quantities sold would out-way the price reduction and not only would they be profitable, but they would control the market![/citation]

this will never happen, unless we can make silicon wafers for an insanely low ammount of money, possibly a new process.

[citation][nom]Rds1220[/nom]No kidding the sales aren't picking up look at the prices. Maybe if the prices weren't so high for so few mb's of memory people would start buying more. I want to get 2 SSD's one for my dads build and the other for my other computer but Im not going to spend that much.[/citation]

get a 40ish gb boot drive, you will thank yourself later, even if its just os and some drivers.

[citation][nom]soldier37[/nom]I have one in my desktop and one in my lap and never looked back. Once you boot to windows in 12 seconds you wont look back either! Get one.[/citation]

its not the boot that get me, its all the accesses of programs that does, it clogs my current hdds, and is why i jumped on the intel ssd for 1$ a gb.

[citation][nom]NightLight[/nom]They should know this by now: cost is holding them back.The time has passed when you can exploit new technology for crazy prices.Everyone is too well informed about prices these days. Also, the reported hard disk crisis is just an excuse to keep the prices high.[/citation]

so the cost to make the chips suddenly doesn't cost 50k a wafer for about 21tb... wow i never knew.

ssds cost so much, not because they preform better, or because they can be priced that high, but because they have to.

[citation][nom]xxsk8er101xx[/nom]They're expensive and I don't need to boot up my computer in 2 seconds verses 5 seconds. i'm good with what I have until prices drop.[/citation]

its not, its also every program that getts accessed also. my hdd is about 120mbps, but the boot drive is at about 60 and get get hammered down to .7

its not all boot, its also the random accesses.

 
[citation][nom]alidan[/nom]they also want reliable, and intel has that over sandforce.[/citation]

Reliability is way overrated. Do your backups and enjoy the 550MB/s Read and more importantly, godly random read speed.
 
[citation][nom]gallidorn[/nom]It is a very simple solution, but Intel can't see beyond it's own greed! Reduce the cost of SSD's to around $10 more than traditional hard drives of the same capacity. This would take over the hard drive market in record time.The higher quantities sold would out-way the price reduction and not only would they be profitable, but they would control the market![/citation]
An SSD costs pretty high to manufacture than magnetic drives. $10 less than same capacity HDD? Are you nuts?
 
[citation][nom]leandrodafontoura[/nom]All they have to do is stop manufacturing notebooks and PCs with HDDs, and start putting SSDs in it. Most people have no idea what they are buying anyway, they go for a price range...[/citation]
Putting a 160 GB SSD will increase the price of an average laptop containing 500GB HDD otherwise by $200 at the minimum. I don't think people will like that.
 
Hmmm why is Intel not drumming up sales??? Time for a quick trip to Newegg. SAMSUNG's 830 Series MZ-7PC128N/AM 128GB SSD [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147137] is $200 and Intel's 510 Series SSDSC2MH120A2K5 [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167042] is $280. Samsung's advertised read and write speeds are faster, it supposedly consumes less wattage, and both are five star rated on Newegg with 3 year warranties (although admittedly, the samsung drive hasn't been reviewed as much as the Intel drive).
I'm curious how the rest of the SSD market is doing?
As for all the people complaining about SSD's not competing with HDD's price-wise, you seriously have no idea what SSD's are all about. Me personally, I'm sick and tired of 15+min boots from my slow a** 5400rpm laptop HDD, and I will be all over a 256GB SSD when they hit the $1/GB mark because that's when I'll be able to afford one. HDD's and SSD's are two totally different entities for two entirely different usage cases. SSD's to hold your programs, and HDD's for your massive loss-less audio collection/burned DVD's/Home Videos/etc...
 
[citation][nom]dickcheney[/nom]Reliability is way overrated. Do your backups and enjoy the 550MB/s Read and more importantly, godly random read speed.[/citation]

honestly seek time is the important part

and lets see here, i am getting a 120gb ssd, i don't have 120gb of space to back crap up, nor would i want to, its suppose to be a boot only, on the off chance the boot dies, i'm using dvd boot linux, that said.

now, storage, yea that is backed up, but a boot... that needs to be reliable.
 
Prices need to come down a hell of a lot faster. I bought a 256gb Crucial SSD for £390 two years ago (December 2009). The cheapest new equivalent is now £315 from Crucial. Probably £300 after shopping around. That's less than a 25% decrease in cost over two years. Pathetic! Standard hard drives are about half the cost now for equal sized capacity as they were two years ago and that's even including the current price hike due to the tsunami!
 
then becouse SSD is not perfect, small capacities, and high cost. they need to innovate again until the cost of SSD at least 1gb/dollar. at this stage, SSD will never get mainstream.
 
I'll simply wait for the real deal:
SSD on the PCIe slot becoming as "cheap" as old-time SSD as a SATA drive
Look out for hyperdrive speed!
Warp 10 Captain Zulu
 
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