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And that'd help Phenom II outsell Intel in the (less than)180$ mark. If Bulldozer comes out as Conroe, Then we can expect a large scale turnaround in prices, the same way as Conroe did.
But a lot of work that CPU's do is shifting to GPU's and as developers start developing more data parallel applications, more and more people will prefer buying a better "GPU" than a "CPU". And Intel's already putting it's foot there with Larrabee.
And that'd help Phenom II outsell Intel in the (less than)180$ mark. If Bulldozer comes out as Conroe, Then we can expect a large scale turnaround in prices, the same way as Conroe did.
But a lot of work that CPU's do is shifting to GPU's and as developers start developing more data parallel applications, more and more people will prefer buying a better "GPU" than a "CPU". And Intel's already putting it's foot there with Larrabee.
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ouch on the error, i love it when tech moves forward i don't care who it comes from as long as its moving forward. I am just interested in the theory of having these parts a q6600 @ a modest 2.7 is plenty for most games and tasks on a 22 inch 1680x1050 screen when coupled with an 8800gt and fairly good ddr2 ram or some ok ddr3 stuff. when i can afford the bigger screen i will buy the parts needed to drive it.
ouch on the error, i love it when tech moves forward i don't care who it comes from as long as its moving forward. I am just interested in the theory of having these parts a q6600 @ a modest 2.7 is plenty for most games and tasks on a 22 inch 1680x1050 screen when coupled with an 8800gt and fairly good ddr2 ram or some ok ddr3 stuff. when i can afford the bigger screen i will buy the parts needed to drive it.
[citation][nom]chris13th[/nom]Apparently you only do half the research in order to have an educated opinion. have you ever heard of GlobalFoundries?[/citation]
Apparently you're an idiot... I'll stick to that... I think that it was always Intel that announced a new node (every time) 130, 90nm, 65nm, 45nm, 32nm (maybe AMD will make it first to 28nm).
I'm no fanboy, I either have Intel cpu's, and AMD cpu's... You are a fanidiot, because u need to ofend people to make your point.
Well, I know I should never fight an idiot, he'll drag me to his level, and wins by experience.
Have a nice day
Apparently you're an idiot... I'll stick to that... I think that it was always Intel that announced a new node (every time) 130, 90nm, 65nm, 45nm, 32nm (maybe AMD will make it first to 28nm).
I'm no fanboy, I either have Intel cpu's, and AMD cpu's... You are a fanidiot, because u need to ofend people to make your point.
Well, I know I should never fight an idiot, he'll drag me to his level, and wins by experience.
Have a nice day
[citation][nom]Dmerc[/nom]That is some serious cash Intel is spending. Wonder what the cost of the CPU is going to be when it comes out.[/citation]
Fairly competitive probably. The amount of cash they're spending on R&D and manufacturing shouldn't have any affect on the sale price. It's just an investment to be recouped.
Fairly competitive probably. The amount of cash they're spending on R&D and manufacturing shouldn't have any affect on the sale price. It's just an investment to be recouped.
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Ha!!! The joke is on Intel. I have skipped over all of their interim processors, waiting for the perfect chance to jump on a new CPU. When I upgrade later this year, I am going straight from my still-fully functioning 600MHz Pentium III (Coppermine core) running on an Iwill VD133Pro (VIA Apollo Pro 133A Chipset) to the shiny new 32nm die-shrink of Nehalem. I think the increase in speed will make me have an aneurysm.
[citation][nom]SuckRaven[/nom]Ha!!! The joke is on Intel. I have skipped over all of their interim processors, waiting for the perfect chance to jump on a new CPU. When I upgrade later this year, I am going straight from my still-fully functioning 600MHz Pentium III (Coppermine core) running on an Iwill VD133Pro (VIA Apollo Pro 133A Chipset) to the shiny new 32nm die-shrink of Nehalem. I think the increase in speed will make me have an aneurysm.[/citation]
The question is, if you've been happily running a 600Mhz PIII all this time, what are you going to do with all that extra power to make the investment worthwhile?
The question is, if you've been happily running a 600Mhz PIII all this time, what are you going to do with all that extra power to make the investment worthwhile?
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My 6750 still plays (fps)games at 95% of the framerate of the new fancy $1,000 processors. I need a reason to update something other than my video card.
This is fine if u have a single 260 or bellow but my sli 260 is slightly bottle necked by my q9550 @3.2 and I can squeeze out another 10% out of my cards with my cpu @ 3.7 but my northbridge gets hot and gives me stability issues on my 780iftw.
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My 6750 still plays (fps)games at 95% of the framerate of the new fancy $1,000 processors. I need a reason to update something other than my video card.
This is fine if u have a single 260 or bellow but my sli 260 is slightly bottle necked by my q9550 @3.2 and I can squeeze out another 10% out of my cards with my cpu @ 3.7 but my northbridge gets hot and gives me stability issues on my 780iftw.
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[citation][nom]zipzoomflyhigh[/nom]I guess some of you talking about Intels "superior architecture" should read up on the subject. Its the same exact architecture AMD used for the original Phenom. It wasnt fast enough, Intel made it faster.[/citation]
Ummmm Intel Timna had an IMC in the Pentium 3 Days, and when you have a new FSB design thats quicker that isnt copying AMD - hypertransport is just a FSB (and for once - without the memory controller thrashing its bandwidth)- its what it is - a FRONT side BUS - the main communication between cpu and the rest of the system, and moving the memory controller - it was the next logical/evolutionary step.
Intel was right back then - it didnt need to Integrate it at the time - Core 2 was able to beat AMD without an IMC (luckily).
Intel is quicker with the core 2 and now the core i7 because the cores them selves are Intels good old P6 design revised over the years but still true even today - efficient and well-performing, and you cant beat Intel for latencies - cache and memory etc.
Give an AMD chip all the bandwidth and HT speed and it still wont gain much - there not the issue (if you call it that).
Oh and avericia - more and more games are going quad - GTA IV with an E6700 vs Q6700 theres a massive difference, same with supreme commander etc - times are changing.
Ummmm Intel Timna had an IMC in the Pentium 3 Days, and when you have a new FSB design thats quicker that isnt copying AMD - hypertransport is just a FSB (and for once - without the memory controller thrashing its bandwidth)- its what it is - a FRONT side BUS - the main communication between cpu and the rest of the system, and moving the memory controller - it was the next logical/evolutionary step.
Intel was right back then - it didnt need to Integrate it at the time - Core 2 was able to beat AMD without an IMC (luckily).
Intel is quicker with the core 2 and now the core i7 because the cores them selves are Intels good old P6 design revised over the years but still true even today - efficient and well-performing, and you cant beat Intel for latencies - cache and memory etc.
Give an AMD chip all the bandwidth and HT speed and it still wont gain much - there not the issue (if you call it that).
Oh and avericia - more and more games are going quad - GTA IV with an E6700 vs Q6700 theres a massive difference, same with supreme commander etc - times are changing.
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[citation][nom]jn77[/nom]I am running a q6600 right now with 8gb of ram and a 64bit os. I will hold out for an 8 core chip and 24-48gb of ram. I use it for photography and video work. And no AMD is not even on my radar right now because they can not compete at that level.[/citation]
AMD beats your cpu right now! but not by much - not as a valid "worth while" upgrade but check your facts about "can not compete"
AMD beats your cpu right now! but not by much - not as a valid "worth while" upgrade but check your facts about "can not compete"
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[citation][nom]SuckRaven[/nom]Ha!!! The joke is on Intel. I have skipped over all of their interim processors, waiting for the perfect chance to jump on a new CPU. When I upgrade later this year, I am going straight from my still-fully functioning 600MHz Pentium III (Coppermine core) running on an Iwill VD133Pro (VIA Apollo Pro 133A Chipset) to the shiny new 32nm die-shrink of Nehalem. I think the increase in speed will make me have an aneurysm.[/citation]
Your jumping like 10 generations in processor (coppermine - tualatin - wilamette - northowood - prescott - smithfield - cedarmill - conroe - kentsfield - yorkfield - nehalem - westmere) and 3 generations of memory, hdd, storage media and god knows whatever else - its going to be more then massive.
Your jumping like 10 generations in processor (coppermine - tualatin - wilamette - northowood - prescott - smithfield - cedarmill - conroe - kentsfield - yorkfield - nehalem - westmere) and 3 generations of memory, hdd, storage media and god knows whatever else - its going to be more then massive.
What makes a processor interesting (to me) is the price, performance and power consumption ratio related to what you need for your most demanding applications. A similar argument holds for the videocard.
I intend to buy later this year an Intel E8400 2core, and Ati radeon hd4670, and my psu of 350W is adequate for the job too
I intend to buy later this year an Intel E8400 2core, and Ati radeon hd4670, and my psu of 350W is adequate for the job too
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