Intel Shows Off 32-nm Westmere CPU Wafer

[nforce4max]

[citation][nom]alvine[/nom]"many competitors" you mean amd[/citation]

Well there is IBM, VIA, Sony, MIPS, Motorola, and dozens more. It does not mean if they don't have a x86 that they cant make CPUs.

 

[Burodsx]

A 13nm difference is quite substantial. I'll pass on the first round of 6 core processors, but I'm definitely looking forward to getting my hands on a 32nm quad-core.

 

[nforce4max]

[citation][nom]Burodsx[/nom]A 13nm difference is quite substantial. I'll pass on the first round of 6 core processors, but I'm definitely looking forward to getting my hands on a 32nm quad-core.[/citation]

Yep and maybe just maybe a larger L2 per core and be able to use ram with voltage higher than 1.65v.

 

[JonathanDeane]

Looks good to me, I have to wonder if a dual slot motherboard would have some sort of SLI built in? or if they put two of these things on one die would it be quad SLI? Also if the CPU runs at 3Ghz will the GPU on the die run at 3Ghz as well? Anyway its nice to see some advancement in the CPU area things where getting almost stale and I hope this spices things up a bit.

 

[Guest]

So, since this does not have an IMC or integrated PCI-e controller like Core i5/i7, is it safe to say that this is essentially a 32nm Penryn CPU with a G45 northbridge packaged together? Whatever floats your boat, but a dual-core CPU and an Intel IGP aren't exactly what I'd call an exciting computer in the year 2009.

 

[JonathanDeane]

I just read the little notes under the picture.. why did they back off from triple channel ram and then integrate the GPU ? I would think that at that point having the extra bandwidth would be nice ? Maybe there will be a enthusiast version....

 

[Guest]

GMA does a great thing for netbooks!
It even enables them to watch 720p video, something their screens aren't even able to display at full quality!

Something also impossible before on a device with a 9" screen, especially if you consider that today's netbooks can playback a whole 720p movie on one battery charge!

I have nothing bad to say about the Intel GMA chipset on itself, other then that it uses too much power. Something that will probably be less of a problem with this upcoming chip.
I also think their newer graphics chip (was it something..450-M?) is going to be at least on par, if not faster than the Intel GMA chip, allowing upto 1080p video playback, and youtube HD content.

The only complain next to that would be it's lack in 3D performance. The upcoming video chip will not be a 3D performance chip neither.
So for those of you who would love to run crysis on a netbook, you'd probably be disappointed in this chip!
It's main purpose is energy saving, something you just simply can't do with a Radeon 4000 series or a newer NVidia series chipset.

I think everyone with a little brains can understand that pairing a netbook with such a graphics power, would drain the battery in an hour!

Netbooks supposed to be sub 20-25Watts devices. Not equipped with an 80W graphics card!

 

[Guest]

[citation][nom]JonathanDeane[/nom]Looks good to me, I have to wonder if a dual slot motherboard would have some sort of SLI built in? or if they put two of these things on one die would it be quad SLI? Also if the CPU runs at 3Ghz will the GPU on the die run at 3Ghz as well? Anyway its nice to see some advancement in the CPU area things where getting almost stale and I hope this spices things up a bit.[/citation]

Though they may use the same FSB, it does not mean they use the same multiplier.
In fact, having a separate GPU is a good indicator that the GPU will not run at the same frequency as the CPU!
First of all, because that would be an energy sucker, and second of all, have you ever seen a mobile graphics card with a core clock speed higher than 1Ghz?
Most desktop GPU's are slower than 1Ghz, including most high end gpu's!

Most likely intel's GPU will run between 200 and 300Mhz.
If we're lucky it'll run at 333Mhz, the same as the expected FSB.

 

[Guest]

[citation][nom]JonathanDeane[/nom]I just read the little notes under the picture.. why did they back off from triple channel ram and then integrate the GPU ? I would think that at that point having the extra bandwidth would be nice ? Maybe there will be a enthusiast version....[/citation]
Maybe because there's very little speed difference between single slot DDR3 and single slot DDR2 memory?
Second because the chipset is made for netbooks, and not for desktops; so in other words price matters?
Third, because on a slower netbook processor it makes little sense to have RAM that functions almost at the same speed as the CPU? (the speed advantage will not translate into massive gains, when a processor is only able to deal with a certain speed of data coming from the ram).

We're talking about a 1,6 to 1,8Ghz Atom processor here; no Core i7

 

[JonathanDeane]

[citation][nom]ProDigit80[/nom]Maybe because there's very little speed difference between single slot DDR3 and single slot DDR2 memory?Second because the chipset is made for netbooks, and not for desktops; so in other words price matters?Third, because on a slower netbook processor it makes little sense to have RAM that functions almost at the same speed as the CPU? (the speed advantage will not translate into massive gains, when a processor is only able to deal with a certain speed of data coming from the ram).We're talking about a 1,6 to 1,8Ghz Atom processor here; no Core i7[/citation]

Ahhh I thought this was some sort of budget desk top CPU ! lol well that will teach me (still could make for a decent media center PC maybe fanless with the right cooling) All in all it still looks cool to me just for a different function.

 

[jn77]

Cool, but not what I am looking at... I am looking for the 32nm 6 core i9.

Now, on a different note, I threw a USB HD TV Tuner on my netbook running windows 7 RTM as was able to record HD video on my netbook... so much for the huge pc in the office.

And, yes that is correct, record HD TV on a netbook, using the DVR software. Maynot be the the best encoding, but 83 minutes @ 9gb of space and no skipping other than if the signal to the antenna was low.

 

[noiz]

Interesting... Hopefully less nm means less heat & Watts..

 

[scryer_360]

Noticed something on the video:

Watch it all the way through, but at a second or so before the end, click back to sometime previously in the video. It zooms out. Click forward it zooms in again.

Meaning that the whole time we are watching the video, Intel is slowly zooming in on the guy. Why?

 

[apache_lives]

[citation][nom]alikum[/nom]To be honest, since the last time GMA failed on me, I have grown skeptical towards Intel's graphics solution. Let's wait and see what the chips are capable of before talking, Intel.[/citation]

Define "fail"?

 

[zodiacfml]

amazing....i wonder how much work intel employees do in their jobs.