Intel to Bundle Liquid Cooler with Sandy Bridge-E CPUs

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[citation][nom]amk-aka-phantom[/nom]my Twin Frozr II fans sound like one when they're on 75%+, and I frankly don't care, I have good headphones.Besides, the topic is the liquid cooler... it will be quiet.[/citation]

Why would your TF II sound loud, mine never gets hot enough to up it to 75%. It's real quiet and runs cool. You shouldn't be making breakfast on it anyways. :)
 
[citation][nom]amk-aka-phantom[/nom]Oh, such BS... I'm not an AMD hater, but the latest Bulldozer benchmarks showed that 2500K kicks that Bulldozer's ass for $20 less. U mad bro? Doesn't mean we're gonna have more $500-1000 CPUs... we will, but they're not for gamers. We got our 2500/2600K and we're happy, now give us more games that will push these CPUs to the limit.BTW, $350 mobos? Nah man, Intel mobos are cheap. Both in price and quality. You want a real mobo, go ASRock/Gigabyte/Asus/MSI - $120-200.[/citation]

I'm still waiting for a game to push my 2 and a half year old X58 1366 4.2ghz OCed 920 i7. Ever since I bought it, all I do is switch out GPUs every 12-15 months or so and everything runs max settings great. X58 was best investment I ever made in a PC(And I think that says a lot since I have been building PCs since AMD K6 / Pentium II days.)

You also forgot to mention the awesome EVGA boards, many of them with high-quality, great customer support, with many reasonably priced options.
 
I like these, for the right price. The latest H50 price I saw was $50. These have to come in at $35 roughly. Any purchaser has to decide do I want that unappealing "Intel" branding on the block, or something more subtle like Corsair's / Antec's models. Intel is not looking to get into the cooler market as someone suggested. I seriously doubt that.

Intel probably got a decent enough volume discount that wasn't too much more expensive than what they'd be paying for their previous stock cooling solution. More people would be apt to buy the Intel-branded closed loop system their old stock air setup. That all ties back to the volume discount.
 
[citation][nom]spectrewind[/nom]If that's what it looks like... I somehow see Corsair going after Intel for this one. The photo in this article looks a lot like the Corsair Hydro H70.[/citation]
Maybe because they are both made by the same company?(Asetek) You know Corsair does not make the H70 right? Antec also has one from the same company.
 
[citation][nom]husker[/nom]If that is true, then Ford, Chevy, Honda, and Toyota aren't competitive because a Ferrari has more horsepower and is clearly a superior product. By the way, what year is your Ferrari?[/citation]
By that comparison you are saying that AMD is a ford, and intel the Ferrari. Except that in this case the ford costs $10 more, gets less MPG (performance/power), has double the engine exhaust (TDP), and cannot keep up with the mid-range Ferrari in a race (i5K).
If a Ferrari was priced $10 less than a Ford then I would buy the Ferrari every time! And no, it is not competitive.
 
INTEL FANBOYS this is why you need competition if it wasn't for AMDs existence you prob wouldnt even get air coolers and you prob would void your intel warranty unless the aftermarket cooler was intel certified.
 
[citation][nom]GeekApproved[/nom]Well I guess this tells us it won't be cheap, and we already know the performance is not that good.[/citation]
It will not be cheap because these are performance CPUs that are not intended for the general market. These are aimed at crazy gamers who think it is worth the extra $1000+ to get 5 more FPS, and to professionals who are using these for what they are intended for: work. If you are editing videos or rendering high end graphics then getting that extra 15-20% bump in performance is worth every penny. In a year or two when they can get another 10-20% increase they will upgrade again because time for them is money, and a few thousand dollars is absolutely nothing in a multi-million dollar industry. And let us remember that these powerhouse systems run 24/7. Getting 20% efficiency is like adding 10.5 weeks of work to your year. What employer in their right mind would not pay a few $K to add 2.5 months of work to their year?
[citation][nom]shin0bi272[/nom]this kind of marks a new era for pc's ... now we'll have your average joe with a water cooled system and it will be natural for people to have them... sort of like in a car. Youve got electricity and water in the same area though in a car it is much lower voltage than a wall socket... but still the concept holds true.[/citation]
No on both counts. The water cooler is because they cannot make a cheap POS stock cooler that can cool them, and you will pay extra to pay for the water cooler. It will not be cheap because these are performance CPUs that are not intended for the general market. These are aimed at crazy gamers who think it is worth the extra $1000+ to get 5 more FPS, and to professionals who are using these for what they are intended for: work. If you are editing videos or rendering high end graphics then getting that extra 20% bump in performance is worth every penny. In a year or two when they can get another 10-20% increase they will upgrade again because time for them is money, and a few thousand dollars is absolutely nothing in a multi-million dollar industry.

The average Joe will never have a water cooler. In fact, as things keep going, the average joe will not even need a fan on their coolers in another 2-3 generations. We will be able to go back to the good old quiet days of fan-less systems for your average home PC. We may need to go with water cooling for GPUs some day, but even those are going to see major wattage decreases per performance soon. Sure the extreme high end will always take some 250W, but the low end will become ever more competent, and require less and less power. Same dynamic we are seeing between Atom at the low end which can do more and more on 10W, and E series on the high end that takes some 150W but is still more efficient than the 10W Atom.
 
[citation][nom]Benihana[/nom]Man Corsair is quite the innovator! That's why I'll be buying one of their's when the time comes, support the innovation.[/citation]
not corsair but asetek...intel and corsair have to pay asetek royalties for using their design
 
[citation][nom]spectrewind[/nom]If that's what it looks like... I somehow see Corsair going after Intel for this one. The photo in this article looks a lot like the Corsair Hydro H70.[/citation]
both are designed by asetek....therefore both companies have to pay royalties to asetek
 
[citation][nom]husker[/nom]If that is true, then Ford, Chevy, Honda, and Toyota aren't competitive because a Ferrari has more horsepower and is clearly a superior product. By the way, what year is your Ferrari?[/citation]

What's your point? I'd rather have a Ford GT than a Ferrari. Toyota makes a perfectly respectable supercar with the Lexus LFA. Ferrari itself is a division of Fiat. They (can) compete in any segment of the market, AMD right now can't.

Intel can make an 8 core CPU and name their price.
 


I have to readjust the fan curve. Max temps right now for me are 68-72C, but spinning the fans at 75-100% at that speed is not much cooling improvement over 60% :)



I knew I forgot something 🙁 Yes, EVGA boards are also good, I've heard, but I have never used one.

That umad bro bs is really old now, come up with something original amk-aka-phantom. I was a AMD guy since the athlon XP days and the original FX chips that used to B***** slap Intel. Now I have seen the light finally. Leaving behind my Phenom II 955 and getting a i7 2700k, gigabyte sniper 2 Z68 mb, GTx 580 3Gb, 16gb ddr 3 1866, Corsair H80 liquid cooling and 30' IPS 2560 x 1600 res panel some of which some of it I already have. I think I will be ready for some BF3 in a couple weeks...and yeh Bulldozer reviews are disappointing for sure.
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You've boasted about your i7-2600K and SLI 580s in previous articles. Lie much? 😉 By the way, just so you know, Gigabyte Sniper isn't worth its money (if you're paying this much, I'd rather get Maximus) and 1866 MHz RAM is no improvement over 1600 for gaming; if you truly want to burn money, go for 2200 RAM 😀
 
That's just how big their profit margin is, they can afford to bundle liquid cooling. This is a direct result of AMD's failure. I am a huge AMD fanboy (or any underdog, really), but this is an Intel era, very much like the 90's were, until the K7 bang. We need another such bang, but it seems it will take a long time, if ever.
 
OK its a start, if AMD can back up their claim of a 15% performance boost year on year at the same time Intel can only boost performance by 5% year on year then AMD might take the performance crown by 2014.

By then of course, the whole game will have changed again and they will be well on the way to releasing the next big thing.

What AMD really needed to do was drop a hammer on the market and release a BD version that literally crushed the top-end Intel across the board. They didn't so it's back to square one again existing in the mid-range and arguements about price-per-watt.

Come back in 4 years.
 
Intel now competes with itself. In 12 months time do you think us 2500k owners will upgrade to the Ivy bridge equivalent if it's $500? Of course not, and Intel knows that. Even if it becomes a monopoly from here, Intel has made it so that they have to keep releasing value parts because people don't really need to upgrade nearly as often anymore.
 
[citation][nom]lozz08[/nom]Intel now competes with itself. In 12 months time do you think us 2500k owners will upgrade to the Ivy bridge equivalent if it's $500? Of course not, and Intel knows that. Even if it becomes a monopoly from here, Intel has made it so that they have to keep releasing value parts because people don't really need to upgrade nearly as often anymore.[/citation]

I'm not sure the upgrade frequency has increased that much really. When I think back I upgraded from a 386sx to a pentium 133 and then to a 233 (oc'ed to 290 or so), and then to 2x tbird 1000 (oced to 1300), and then to a barton 2400, a northwood 2.8 (bad decicion) and back to a venice 3500, opteron 170 (@ 2.8), conroe 2.4 and lastly the i7 920 (3.8). If you look at this, my upgrade frequency has increased.

And looking at my parents upgrade frequency :
486dx66, 486dx80, k6 350, athlon 1900, northwood 2.4, i7-920
Their frequency went down, but only because after windows xp their games didn't increase in demand (short of supreme commander and company of heroes none required 3d)
 
Looks like Intel beats AMD again 🙁
AMD has claimed they will bundle a liquid cooler also, but I do not think anything has been confirmed. I do like the option to not have any cooler bundled since I prefer after-market solutions anyway.
 
looks like intel finally decided that the junk old air coolers where a complete waste of money. I'm not saying this water cooling solution is the best, but its light years better than the hunk of aluminum that 90% of people just threw in the garbage. it also notes that you can buy the processor with our with out the cooler as well for those who want to get their own.
 
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