Intel to FTC: We Didn't Do Anything Wrong

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According to the news reports, the FTC is not asking for any monetary damages (i.e., no fine against Intel). So all this is, is just the FTC formalizing the agreement Intel and AMD already made, when the judge gets through with it in September..
 
Doh another law suite against Intel Dammit now I will never get my shiny new i7 hex core cheap any time soon way to go FTC you rock nott!! lol

in other news Apple today said they were going to start selling hardware cheap like everyone else so they don't look like greedy buzzards anymore oh wait that was on the comedy network channel nevermind lmao

whole post = sarcasm in case no one noticed :)
 
Here's a good summary of Intel's douche-baggery:

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3690

So, apparently, like anybody with a brain figured out years ago, Intel has had a hand in rigging synthetic benchmarks, which is why they always favor Intel, even when Intel doesn't win in real life.

Also, they make reference to Intel rigging their ICC compiler. Of course, you'd expect Intel's compiler to favor Intel CPUs, but they went so far as deliberately crippling AMD's CPUs by disabling SSE instructions. Surely, plenty of big companies use ICC, so when you see AMD losing real-world benchmarks, it could just be that ICC was used.
 
lol FTC is going to lose. Intel acted within the boundaries of US Law. The problem is the European Law isn't guided by the actual text, but what Europe needs at that moment.
 
... innovation? what?! Like RDRAM, Itanium [1] and Larrabee?
[citation][nom]falchard[/nom]lol FTC is going to lose. Intel acted within the boundaries of US Law. The problem is the European Law isn't guided by the actual text, but what Europe needs at that moment.[/citation]
... not just European, Japanese too...
 
So if Intel didn't do anything wrong why did they settle with AMD in the Anti-Trust lawsuit.

Take 1 foot out of mouth, insert other foot into mouth.
 
Anyone else tired of hearing its the FTC's fault here? Spending our (taxpayers) money? Changing tactics and facts at the last minute etc? Like theyre just some huge ogre with nothing better to do than come after poor lil ol innovative, always lookin out for ya all , Intel, and those governement meanies have come to ruin all of our day.
Intel needs to suck it up, and its time PO stepped down as well
 
[citation][nom]dude88yl[/nom]Is the Core i7 not the best processor out there right now? Case closed.[/citation]
Ask yourself why. Intel's business practice was successful in capping AMD's profit and cutting AMD's R&D. This case extends from around 2000-2006. The way things are today is irrelivent aside from the fact that AMD had to push back thier releases and get rid of thier fabs just to survive.

The I7 is the best CPU out there because Intel "bought" their way to make it so.

Intel was right with one thing, prices were lowered, to the point that a "CPU" company could not survive on CPU's alone because profits are minimal at best. Who is the leading GPU in sales? Intel. What was AMD's solution? ATI.
 
"Intel to FTC: We Didn't Do Anything Wrong"
... right ... so they payed AMD off because ??? ... what they felt sorry for them ?
 
Even though a settlement doesn't exactly translate into admission of guilt in the eyes of the law, one always has to wonder why innocent defendants would agree to a settlement rather than fight to prove their innocence. Especially when they have the means to fight back.

If it was an individual, it could make a bit more sense, wanting to just go on with life rather than spend years in court and possibly even in jail.

But since this is a company, and I doubt any of Intel managers are gonna spend even a day in jail, guilty or not (and if they are, they should be locked up), this seems like a very loud admission of guilt.
 
Intel has been very innovative. Intel does more R&D than any other tech company. Yes, their business practices have been questionable/illegal over the years....but they've never backed down from innovation. Since AMD took the performance crown in 1998 with the K7 Athlon, Intel has funded R&D for RDRAM, developed IA64, developed HyperThreading, developed new enterprise level security technology and new ultra low power processors. Yes, they did buy most of the tech involved in the Core i7 processors...but what company doesn't buy technology? Intel's QPI system bus is nothing but a variation of AMD's HyperTransport bus which TransMeta had a hand in development of. Intel even licensed x86 to Tilera to allow for more competition...
 
[citation][nom]sykozis[/nom]Intel has been very innovative. Intel does more R&D than any other tech company. Yes, their business practices have been questionable/illegal over the years....but they've never backed down from innovation. Since AMD took the performance crown in 1998 with the K7 Athlon, Intel has funded R&D for RDRAM, developed IA64, developed HyperThreading, developed new enterprise level security technology and new ultra low power processors. Yes, they did buy most of the tech involved in the Core i7 processors...but what company doesn't buy technology? Intel's QPI system bus is nothing but a variation of AMD's HyperTransport bus which TransMeta had a hand in development of. Intel even licensed x86 to Tilera to allow for more competition...[/citation]

The RDRAM story, was just a way to completely control the DRAM market, and thanks God they failed.
IA64 was a major failure.
Hyperthreating is barely an innovation!

And as for the licensing story, that's a joke. Intel never wanted competition, their practices even today (not allowing NVidia create chipsets for i5/i7/Atom) prove this thing.

I'm not a AMD fan, or NVidia fan, I'm a competition fan. And Intel sucks at competing - Athlon and Athlon64 proved that. Thanks God they have enough money to buy ehm- build a decent processor.. (Although they can't build a decent GPGPU)! 😀

 
If you read over 88% of amd/ati fanboy slander in the replies, you may have 12% left of usefull replies that actually apply to the topic. This is bad for Intel, but they will win this one easily. Intel has made a huge impact in the computer world, and it deserves your respect. They should sue the FTC, NVIDIA, APPLE en AMD for cloning them in the early years, what would that do to the competition!
 
Intel having the best technology and Intel using bribes and intimidation and unlawful rebates to force manufacturers to not carry AMD or Nvidia products are not mutually exclusive. Intel may very well have the fastest processors and best platforms. And the company may also use anticompetitive business tactics to ensure that its market share isn't touched.

Again, they two points are not mutually exclusive. Anyone who argues that Intel is innocent soley because the company has a history of innovation and its processors are better than AMD's isn't grasping the complexities of this issue. This is about antitrust law, not benchmarks. Technology development and the business of going to market with that technology are two very different things.
 
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