Intel To Release Discrete Graphics Card In 2020, GPUs For Desktop PCs Coming, Too

[bit_user]

It's known AMD got things sorted out after the FRAPS reveal,

I'm a non-gamer, interested in GPUs mostly for the sake of GPU compute and deep learning. I have never heard of this. Briefly, what is FRAPS?

I can sort of infer from the rest of your post, but just want to make sure I understand what you mean.

 

[ubercake]

It's known AMD got things sorted out after the FRAPS reveal,

I'm a non-gamer, interested in GPUs mostly for the sake of GPU compute and deep learning. I have never heard of this. Briefly, what is FRAPS?

I can sort of infer from the rest of your post, but just want to make sure I understand what you mean.

You can revisit the story here.

 

[Math Geek]

Okay, so there is a Win10 driver and it works, but you're not getting bug-fixes and enhancements? Or are you actually running it in some kind of VGA (VESA) compatibility mode?

no it's using the generic VGA driver. not a massive deal other than not being able to control the brightness level. can't use it in low light cause it'll burn your eyes out!!! was just an example of intel abandoning a graphics chip that is not really that old considering i have had win 10 on there for over 2 years. so at only 4 years old it should still get some new drivers despite being a crappy chip especially how hard they tried to get everyone to upgrade. try to trick/force me to upgrade and then not support the chip in the system is pretty terrible to me. i chose to upgrade on my own but still recall how hard they worked to trick many into the "upgrade" and wonder how many were forced only to find horrible driver support for their system like that.

i actually put remix OS on it but could not get the usb ports to work so had to abandon it. it never liked built in wifi and with no usb i could not get it online. so was worthless to me. could go linux as well. maybe i can do some research and see if that atom igp has drivers on that side of the world. might work for the simple use i have for it.

 

[bit_user]

especially how hard they tried to get everyone to upgrade. try to trick/force me to upgrade and then not support the chip in the system is pretty terrible to me. i chose to upgrade on my own but still recall how hard they worked to trick many into the "upgrade" and wonder how many were forced only to find horrible driver support for their system like that.

Wait, it was Microsoft that was tricking people into upgrading to Win10, right? Agreed that MS shouldn't have pushed people to Win10 whose hardware wasn't well-supported on it.

maybe i can do some research and see if that atom igp has drivers on that side of the world. might work for the simple use i have for it.

The Linux driver used for Intel GPUs is called the i915 driver, if that gives you any sense of how old it is. Assuming it does still support the 915, that would mean something like 14 years worth of supported GPUs. It wouldn't be surprising, as the Linux kernel still has drivers for some graphics chips as old as 20+ years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_graphics_processing_units#Third_generation

I'm going to guess that if you have issues with Linux on that hardware, it probably won't be due to the graphics. But, unless you're at the point of getting rid of it, it's smart to search for others running Linux on similar hardware.

 

[littleleo]

So this division is being run by the old ATI/AMD head guy. So does this mean Intel will have the same crap driver issue that ATI/AMD has had since the same guy will be running them?

 

[jimmysmitty]

So this division is being run by the old ATI/AMD head guy. So does this mean Intel will have the same crap driver issue that ATI/AMD has had since the same guy will be running them?

Probably not since Intel already has its own driver division (that's rather large actually).

 

[littleleo]

So this division is being run by the old ATI/AMD head guy. So does this mean Intel will have the same crap driver issue that ATI/AMD has had since the same guy will be running them?

Probably not since Intel already has its own driver division (that's rather large actually).

They have a GPU driver division? Interesting, I remember their last go at GPUs I think it was called the 740... not sure I just remember they didn't do well. They were at best a very average GPU I couldn't give them away, they were not for gaming. But back then gaming isn't what it is now where a new game generates more $ than some of the summer's block buster movies do.

 

[jimmysmitty]

So this division is being run by the old ATI/AMD head guy. So does this mean Intel will have the same crap driver issue that ATI/AMD has had since the same guy will be running them?

Probably not since Intel already has its own driver division (that's rather large actually).

They have a GPU driver division? Interesting, I remember their last go at GPUs I think it was called the 740... not sure I just remember they didn't do well. They were at best a very average GPU I couldn't give them away, they were not for gaming. But back then gaming isn't what it is now where a new game generates more $ than some of the summer's block buster movies do.

Considering that they have a GPU in most of their CPUs these days, yes they have a division that works on GPU drivers. They also have a Software division called Intel SSG that works with other software companies to optimize their applications for Intel products.

Intel has a very large software team. I think it even rivals some mainly software comapnies.

 

[littleleo]

So this division is being run by the old ATI/AMD head guy. So does this mean Intel will have the same crap driver issue that ATI/AMD has had since the same guy will be running them?

Probably not since Intel already has its own driver division (that's rather large actually).

They have a GPU driver division? Interesting, I remember their last go at GPUs I think it was called the 740... not sure I just remember they didn't do well. They were at best a very average GPU I couldn't give them away, they were not for gaming. But back then gaming isn't what it is now where a new game generates more $ than some of the summer's block buster movies do.

Considering that they have a GPU in most of their CPUs these days, yes they have a division that works on GPU drivers. They also have a Software division called Intel SSG that works with other software companies to optimize their applications for Intel products.

Intel has a very large software team. I think it even rivals some mainly software comapnies.

Damn it would have been awesome if the driver issue carried over, lol! I remember selling the Intel Marle I think it was called. There was an issue with some of the IC's on the board conflicting with a customer software, and Intel knew of the issue but wouldn't fix it. They said only a few thousand had the problem so it wasn't worth their time to fix it.

 

[cryoburner]

Honestly, Intel's integrated graphics driver support hasn't ever been particularly good. Perhaps that will change if they get into discrete cards though, since they would presumably need to offer comparable support to AMD and Nvidia to convince people to get their cards for gaming.

 

[bit_user]

Honestly, Intel's integrated graphics driver support hasn't ever been particularly good. Perhaps that will change if they get into discrete cards though, since they would presumably need to offer comparable support to AMD and Nvidia to convince people to get their cards for gaming.

Graphics drivers aren't what they used to be.

On all these operating systems:

• 
  ■ Windows
  ■ Mac
  ■ Linux

Intel has to support several graphics APIs:

• 
  ■ DirectX or Metal
  ■ OpenGL
  ■ Vulkan

And GPU Compute:

• 
  ■ OpenCL
  ■ DirectCompute
  ■ Metal (or whatever Apple uses for this)

And multiple generations of their hardware have to support multiple recent versions of these APIs. Additionally, the APIs accumulate features and functionality like dirty snowballs rolling down a mountain.

It's not a small job, and not something you can manage with a small team or without having your stuff together.