Intel Uncertain About Near PC Future, Windows 8 Impact

[stefanGR]

This is indeed a great time for a new OS . Maybe someone that can rally game support into Linux , that is the only thing missing for Linux to grab a big chunk of OS love . With MS trying hard to become apple , the window of opportunity is now open . Someone should take the chance , it makes sense .

 

[rantoc]

[citation][nom]house70[/nom]"PC-doom" Gruener is back.[/citation]

When i saw the writers name it was not hard to know what it would contain, just the usual dull spin of the same story over and over that pc is doomed and base it on *insert random rumor / "evidence"*.

Shame Tom's have moved from rock solid written articles based on real facts (like that its a recession in about ALL industry) to "Click my slanderous story" journalism!

 

[rantoc]

[citation][nom]frombehind[/nom]Well, they might do what they did with Vista... by releasing DirectX 12. All of a sudden if you want to play the latest games, you must upgrade to their new OS. That was the only reason people went from XP to vista, cuz Xp so support DX 11.[/citation]

That worked when there wasn't 6 years old (from hardware perspective) consoles keeping the development of gfx back to the two gen old dx9. If MS for instance would have released a new xbox console based on a possible DX12 and then release Win 8 with that it would have worked but now they didnt, stupid move by MS if you think about it....

 

[fuxxnuts]

[citation][nom]bison88[/nom]Windows 8's biggest failure is that nobody needs it. There was a logical step to take going from XP to Vista, although Microsoft blundered it with lack of Software and Hardware developer support, Windows 7 was simply a correction to Windows Vista. Very little under the surface was changed, just fixed for the mainstream out the box.[/citation]

Do you typically make broad incorrect statements like this? There was tons of problems with vista, not just no software/hardware support, but also stability issues.... the real reason vista was scoffed at.

 

[tomfreak]

[citation][nom]Wamphryi[/nom]Tomfreak"u dont make a PC function like smartphones/tablet. You should make a PC much smarter than mobile computers, which currently Microsoft arent heading that direction."The problem with that theory is that the mobile can do what the ATX PC can never do and that is sit in your pocket. Soon we will see phones and tablets that will support mini USB and mini HDMI out of the box. A user then simply plugs the monitor and a USB Hub into the phone and monitor, keyboard and mouse are ready to go. My phone is significantly more powerful than my first PC's and they continue to become more powerful. NVIDIA will push more powerful graphic solutions through phones and soon viable gaming will be on the agenda. The PC had to go the mobile market and prove its relevance not the other way around. The PC needs to be bigger than before and play to its strengths. Multiple Monitor set ups and raw power etc. However 80% of the PC users out there don't require the grunt we do. How fast does one need to open a word document? This would be the worst time ever for the PC industry to become an island unto itself. Win 8 bridges the divide and takes the PC into a new era. For all our sakes lets hope it succeeds.[/citation]yes mobile phones can do what a PC can never do, but at the same time other than comfort, a PC cant do something special a mobile phone cant.

because even right now u have to type the word urself. Word documents are not smart document, because nobody make them. At this rate, pretty soon even laptop become replaced by smartphone, soon after that ur expensive smartphone will no longer relevant as well because the $50 phone will just do the same. Technology are moving forward, but the software on the PC arent moving forward to drive more human interactive functionality and use more hardware resources. This is like everyone still using windows 95 never bother move forward.

Right now i still need to type this post, scroll my mouse wheel click every button to navigate my page, My PC are not still as smart as those in Star trek. Nobody seems to want to make an Operating system "smart".

oh yeah I still need to click summit my comment. I cant tell my PC I am done with my post here and move to next article.

 

[cats_Paw]

Dx is not really a problem as you can always find out hacked versions of the DX (if you really hate Win 8 so much), and on the flipside if WIN 8 does turn out to be another Vista, public pressure will probably enforce Microsoft not to do this sort of move.

 

[Cazalan]

I've had friends try Windows 8 from the developer network. At first the comments were negative saying they hate the UI. Then a week or two later they're getting used to it and they like it.

It comes down to basic human traits, we hate change because it's unfamiliar.

When I look at my cousins 27" iMac all in one unit, I say how can you use that thing. It cost a fortune, the CPU is several speed grades behind, and the coolest thing about it is the 27" screen. But she loves it. For her it's less intimidating than a Microsoft PC.

Microsoft has to "dumb down" or more PC "simplify" the Windows interface to stay competitive.

Face it, most everyone can use a smart phone. Not everyone can use a PC. Enthusiasts will find a way to work around the UI limitations.

 

[Elsapo]

[citation][nom]fuxxnuts[/nom]Do you typically make broad incorrect statements like this? There was tons of problems with vista, not just no software/hardware support, but also stability issues.... the real reason vista was scoffed at.[/citation]

Most of the instability issues were caused by bad drivers i.e hardware support. Vista was very stable for me...after I replaced my motherboard. (old one had an nvidia chipset)

 

[Niavlys77]

You people have got to be kidding me...all this complaining over the Start Menu? Do you people not realize you can just go to the desktop and it's basically a faster, more efficient Windows 7, with more features and security? What the heck is the issue? Windows 8 is great on so many levels, you people are just too damn ignorant to realize it.

There's no reason for Windows 8 to do poorly.

 

[Niavlys77]

[citation][nom]Cazalan[/nom]I've had friends try Windows 8 from the developer network. At first the comments were negative saying they hate the UI. Then a week or two later they're getting used to it and they like it. It comes down to basic human traits, we hate change because it's unfamiliar.When I look at my cousins 27" iMac all in one unit, I say how can you use that thing. It cost a fortune, the CPU is several speed grades behind, and the coolest thing about it is the 27" screen. But she loves it. For her it's less intimidating than a Microsoft PC. Microsoft has to "dumb down" or more PC "simplify" the Windows interface to stay competitive.Face it, most everyone can use a smart phone. Not everyone can use a PC. Enthusiasts will find a way to work around the UI limitations.[/citation]

I couldn't agree more. My gf absolutely hates change, especially with technology and computers. I installed Windows 8 RP on her laptop and she wouldn't stop complaining for the first day lol. The next day, I showed her a couple of the new things with navigating it all, and she got used to it instantly. Now she says she'll never go back to 7. She loves it.

 

[maximiza]

It is all economy drivin. Retail Vista ultimate for 80 dollars or Windows 7 or 8 retail top of the line 200 dollars. They all do the same thing just differernt bells and whistles.

 

[Guest]

What does Intel expect! The market is saturated with desktops and laptops, I own 3 laptops, and I do not see buying any more until after Haswell! As far as getting people excited about laptops, the only thing that I see is the external GPU boxes that Lucid and others have been demonstrating, but they require thunderbolt ports. If Microsoft would stop this foolishness with always changing the GUI, and create an operating system that can utilize all 3 of my laptops LANed together through ethernet or USB, or both at the same time, for a more powerful compute or gaming experience. then do not expect me to upgrade from windows 7. I like what AMD is doing with the HSA foundation, and I hope someone with big bucks can aquire AMD and still retain the x86 license, someone with the resources to take on Intel in chip fabrication arena.

 

[spartanmk2]

Wonder if i can get my kinect to work with a win 8 htpc and wave my hands in the air as i pretend to slide screen to screen, tile by tile from the comfyness of my couch?

 

[Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer]

[citation][nom]southernshark[/nom]I am looking forward to Windows 8.I do not believe that serious enthusiasts are upset about Windows 8.Rather it is the dumbs.... the people who can't figure out how to turn Metro off... the seriously stupid LOL KATS crowd who slurk along the mainstream pathways of the cybernet.[/citation]
Aw, that's cute... 😛 Nice trolling attempt, now run along.

But seriously, it's those of us who actually have degrees in the field of computing and who actually work in technology-oriented careers (sorry to shatter your preconceived notions, buddy) who "get it" in a way that maybe some of "t3h h4rdc0r3z" can't (because they're lacking the knowledge, the background, or the cognitive abilities needed to do so). Keep on believing it's the lack of a start menu we're objecting to, though...

 

[devBunny]

an operating system launch as disruptive as Windows 8

Yep, it's really going to disrupt me as I continue shunning it and using Win 7.

 

[stefanGR]

Well , put it any way you want it , there is a clear truth here . Metro is not designed to be used with a desktop , but with a touch screen . So it isnt wrong to not like it when I use it with a mouse and a keyboard , I find it to be less productive and slower . How is that a false perception in any way ? Windows 8 is installed on another HDD for months , and Im using it because I have to , Im a professional and have to be at least familiar with it before launch , so I will be . I do like some some aspects like the faster boot times , I dont like others. And overall I see no clear advantage to make the move to windows 8 , at least for now .

 

[belardo]

My Win7Pro desktop can wake up from sleep mode faster than Win8 can boot up.

My PC goes to sleep if I leave it alone for a while. It goes to sleep when I go to bed. Unless there is a serious issue or an upgrade patch, my PC doesn't SHUT DOWN. The quick boot of Win8 is impressive... its nice... but all the other crap negates all that...

 

[troger5troger5]

Here is my question, lets say that I wave the white flag and except metro. My problem is that if I launch an application from metro, it still pulls up the destkop to run the application. Once I close the application, it does not go back into Metro so that I can launch something else, it stays in the desktop. So again Microsoft, if I have to go in the desktop to launch an app that was originally launched from metro, what is the point of moving things over to metro vs going into the desktop as usual and launching it from the missing start button or from a short cut on the desktop?