MSI Claw is doing better now, with double-digit gains after driver updates. A jump over that level of performance while cutting power consumption will make Lunar Lake good for 1080p. We'll see if AMD can do better. RDNA3.5 seems good but they haven't given enough information yet. Kraken Point (4+4) would be an obvious chip to compare to Lunar Lake but it's probably launching in 2025.
I will take any opportunity to bash them, especially if they get the basic facts horribly wrong.
The further back we go, the less knowledge people had of the English language.
That's neither here or there though.
Far too long I've been asking for power vs performance vs thermal results.... All anyone keeps measuring though is this chip greater than/less than the last chip in some meaningless synthetic benchmark. So I wouldn't hold your breath waiting on this data if I were you. Likely the only way to get the data you seek is to formulate, test and measure everything yourself.
One chip at a time. They are announcing what they have nearly ready.
Well this one is soldered to the substrate, which means the RAM is part of the CPU, not the mobo.
Since you're nitpicking: and the substrate is soldered to the mobo... 😉
The part that I am missing a lot is the future projection.
Yeah, but it's not like it's locked down with a useless amount, like 8GB.
DDR5 SODIMM maxes out at 5600
That exactly why the PC was so successful for decades: it supported usage scenarios its designers didn't anticipate ("640k should be enough for everyone").
I disagree. The PC was only successful because of software.
iGPU very rarely uses all RAM, unless it's actually/finally GPGPU or HSA.
I've got no time for this. Please take your nationalism elsewhere.
I don't care what sounds right to your ear. The core activities of an architect deserve a more descriptive verb than "designing", since an architect can do design work that wouldn't be classified as the creation of architecture.
It's a bit late for that!
In this case, the "last generation" would be Lunar Lake, which instead of being a power hog was an underperformer (see also: Ice Lake).
I think they have an extremely narrow justification for comparing to the LP E-cores, which is that they wanted to show why they dropped the Low Power island and are just relying on the CPU tile's Skymont cores. However, the fact that all of their comparisons use the LP E-cores is indeed a bit much.
No, putting the RAM on-package saves space and power. It might also let them run higher speeds.
No, it's not. Also, it's not a nit-pick because off-package memory could also use LPCAMM2, which is not an option if it's on-package.
That's a non-sequitur. He was talking about how to partition up an address space of approximately 1 megabyte. The 640k part was in reference to how much of it to set aside for OS + programs. It was never meant to apply to CPUs that supported > 20-bit addressing, at which point he probably figured you'd have a different operating system with its own memory map.
Then I predict you'll like CXL.mem expansion modules.
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