Intel Vs AMD Processor for gaming

[TheDarkKnight16]

I want an assembled gaming computer with 8gb ram(gskill),
Cooler Master N400 Cabinet,
Nvidia Gtx 660(i currently have 650),
but I'm Confused that which one is value for money intel i5 or AMD 8350 or Intel i7 4770 or AMD 9590,
I have a 600w Seasonic SMPS
And please suggest me a good motherboard(around 10000 Rupees)

 

[bicycle_repair_man]

Considering he has the budget for an I7 + 660, which is approximately $300 + $180 = $480, I'd split the money vice versa, put $300 on the gpu and $180 on the cpu. That would result in an I5 4460 (and a h97 board which saves a bit of money over a z97 one) and a gtx 970, which would absolutely blow the 660 gtx away.

Bang on.

 

[DubbleClick]

Dance, Monkey. Dance !!

Not quite seeing any indication of Intel using AMD64, but lots of facts showing the opposite, especially on hardware, compiler and OS level they are radically different. As end user or programmer you possibly won't ever see any difference, due to compilers making code executable on both. But if that is enough for you to call it the same, you might as well say x86_64 is a blatant copy of the original x86 (which is as untrue as Intel 64 and AMD64 being the same - both are extensions of x86_32).

 

[TheDarkKnight16]

While I'd usually recommend an I5 4690k, in this case the op should go cheap on cpu and motherboard and put the saved money towards a better gpu. A 6300 fx would not limit a 660 gtx, but will become a bottleneck with a 770 gtx or above, so that would be okay if he just wants to save money.
Considering he has the budget for an I7 + 660, which is approximately $300 + $180 = $480, I'd split the money vice versa, put $300 on the gpu and $180 on the cpu. That would result in an I5 4460 (and a h97 board which saves a bit of money over a z97 one) and a gtx 970, which would absolutely blow the 660 gtx away.

The processor u suggested just save 6ks in my country and for gtx 970 i need about 15ks more than gtx 660
so i think that i will increase my budget a bit and buy an i7 with gtx 760 just suggest me a good mobo(not too costly)

 

[TheDarkKnight16]

The i5-4690K is now a staggeringly cheap $179.99 on Microcenter! You should definitely hop on that.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/434177/Core_i5-4690K_35GHz_LGA_1150_Boxed_Processor

Thanks for finding a good deal for me but that is not an indian website so I can't buy from it.

 

[bicycle_repair_man]

Don't buy an i7, you'll see no tangible gaming benefit at all. If the GTX 970 is out of budget, consider an i5 and GTX 770 instead. If your primary focus is on gaming you need to priortise the GPU over the CPU.

Where will you be buying the components from? If you give us a link and a budget, we can recommend the parts to buy.

 

[gowtham7000]

Hi, I assume you have little idea about components. You are getting a 660 GPU and asking suggestions for 10k rupees MoBo. That would be a bad choice. If you want to waste money, please go ahead. However I would suggest you the below which will give you better performance as well as worth for the money you spend.

GPU: If you have money, go for more advanced cards other than 660. Card is the main component for gaming rigs. 660 is fine but you can spend more on it if you can.

CPU: i5 is more than enough for a gaming PC. There is no need for i7 unless u have other requirements like video editing. Below are some options.
1. i5 4570 - I have this and it is sufficient for gaming. You can add 660 with this.
2. i5 4590 - This is 3.3GHZ, 4570 is only 3.2. I would suggest this one if available
3. i5 4690 - A lil expensive but ok
4. i5 4690K - K is for overclocking. If you know & need overclocking, go for this one

Motherboard: I would suggest Gigabyte & ASUS brands
1. H97 or H97M - H97M is matx version and has less one or two slots less than atx version. It all depends on you, if you want to upgrade in future. However you can get a board starting from 6,600 to 8500rs
2. Z97 - if u get a k CPU

Hope this helps. Good luck !

 

[DubbleClick]

So, what is your budget for cpu, motherboard and cpu together?

 

[DubbleClick]

I5 4460 for 12k

http://www.flipkart.com/intel-3-1-ghz-lga-1150-i5-4440-4th-generation-processor/p/itmdpgyx9fn9cgan?pid=PSRDPGYVRPJAYYFH&otracker=search_2&pageNum=1&query=i5+cpu


gtx 970 for 27k

http://www.flipkart.com/zotac-nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-4-gb-gddr5-graphics-card/p/itmey8rvmdan8y2f?pid=GRCEY7N4BUVSVJZN&otracker=search_0&pageNum=1&query=970+gtx


h81 gigabyte board for 3.5k

http://www.flipkart.com/gigabyte-ga-h81m-s1-motherboard/p/itmdpyhgftcpughs?pid=MBDDPYHGFTCPUGHS&otracker=search_0&pageNum=1&query=h81


I usually wouldn't recommend a h81 board, but if it helps getting the 970 into your rig, it should be the choice.
To give you an idea why you should be looking for it: the gpu is the most important part for a gaming rig. An I5 is just as good as an I7 for just gaming. Tge motherboard barely comes into play for performance anyway, especially not on a single gpu. Now for the gpu, the 970 gtx is stronger than the gtx 780. Slightly overclocked it does even reach gtx 780 ti niveau. With I5 + gtx 970 + h81 you're looking at about twice or more the fps of a gtx 760 with I7 and z97.

This makes 42.5k rs. If you can stretch the budget to 50k rs (not really required tho) you could get the I5 4460 (1.2k more than I5 4440) and a h97 board like this:

http://www.flipkart.com/gigabyte-ga-h97-d3h-motherboard/p/itmdzs69hmr9nrkg?pid=MBDDZS67KRBCDQ5V&otracker=search_3&pageNum=1&query=h97#card-user-review-ratings

for 5.1k more. All together a little under 49k. But if you'd rather save money, the first option will do fine. You just won't have m.2 connectors for faster ssd in the future and less usb 3 ports.

 

[Vic Rattlehead]

Currently, for the most bang for your buck, you'll want an i5-4690K and overclock it to 4.5-4.7Ghz. DO NOT get the 8350 and especially not the 9590. If you're really wanting to save money on the CPU which I don't suggest, get the 8320 for most bang for your buck.

Also, DO NOT get an i7 as the difference in FPS against an i5 (1-2% in most cases) is NOT worth an extra $100, which can be better spent on a cooler for higher overclock, or an SSD for a significant boost in PC responsiveness.

Anyway, for the i5 overclocked, you'll need a good cooler like the Noctua NH-U14s or minimum a Hyper 212 Evo.

The best motherboard for the i5-4690K for its price is the Gigabyte Z97X-SLI. For $110, you get SataExpress, SataM.2, SLI, and Realtek ALC1150 capabilities usually only found on higher-end mobos.

The Z97X-SLI should support a 4.7Ghz overclock easily.

Hope this helps

The GA-Z97X-SLI is a solid board, I use it myself.. BUT if you are interested in using a high-end gaming headset, avoid it. It does not have high quality on-board sound and does not feature optical audio output, so it will not be compatible with many cross-platform surround sound headsets.

 

[TheDarkKnight16]

Don't buy an i7, you'll see no tangible gaming benefit at all. If the GTX 970 is out of budget, consider an i5 and GTX 770 instead. If your primary focus is on gaming you need to priortise the GPU over the CPU.

Where will you be buying the components from? If you give us a link and a budget, we can recommend the parts to buy.

I will buy from the following websites:
www.flipkart.com
www.snapdeal.com
www.ebay.in
www.amazon.in
My budget is around 60 thousand rupees

 

[TheDarkKnight16]

I5 4460 for 12k

http://www.flipkart.com/intel-3-1-ghz-lga-1150-i5-4440-4th-generation-processor/p/itmdpgyx9fn9cgan?pid=PSRDPGYVRPJAYYFH&otracker=search_2&pageNum=1&query=i5+cpu


gtx 970 for 27k

http://www.flipkart.com/zotac-nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-4-gb-gddr5-graphics-card/p/itmey8rvmdan8y2f?pid=GRCEY7N4BUVSVJZN&otracker=search_0&pageNum=1&query=970+gtx


h81 gigabyte board for 3.5k

http://www.flipkart.com/gigabyte-ga-h81m-s1-motherboard/p/itmdpyhgftcpughs?pid=MBDDPYHGFTCPUGHS&otracker=search_0&pageNum=1&query=h81


I usually wouldn't recommend a h81 board, but if it helps getting the 970 into your rig, it should be the choice.
To give you an idea why you should be looking for it: the gpu is the most important part for a gaming rig. An I5 is just as good as an I7 for just gaming. The motherboard barely comes into play for performance anyway, especially not on a single gpu. Now for the gpu, the 970 gtx is stronger than the gtx 780. Slightly overclocked it does even reach gtx 780 ti niveau. With I5 + gtx 970 + h81 you're looking at about twice or more the fps of a gtx 760 with I7 and z97.

This makes 42.5k rs. If you can stretch the budget to 50k rs (not really required tho) you could get the I5 4460 (1.2k more than I5 4440) and a h97 board like this:

http://www.flipkart.com/gigabyte-ga-h97-d3h-motherboard/p/itmdzs69hmr9nrkg?pid=MBDDZS67KRBCDQ5V&otracker=search_3&pageNum=1&query=h97#card-user-review-ratings

for 5.1k more. All together a little under 49k. But if you'd rather save money, the first option will do fine. You just won't have m.2 connectors for faster ssd in the future and less usb 3 ports.

Bro you forgot other parts i made a list of total parts and there cost:
Ram-Corsair Vengence 8gb(flipkart) =5880
GPU-NVIDIA Geforce GTX 970(flipkart) =26975
Processor-Intel i5 4690k(flipkart)[it is just 3ks costly] =16240
Motherboard-GIGABYTE GA-H97M-D3H(amazon)[found it 1k cheaper] =7698
Hard Drive-Seagate Barracuda 2 TB(flipkart) =5800
Cabinet-Cooler Master N400(snapdeal) =4450
Internal Optical Drive-Asus DRW-24D3ST(flipkart)=1100

All this is equal Rs.70843
can tell me if the prices will go down by july 2015
and also tell me that should i buy an internal or external hdd

 

[AlexHYS]

Just get Intel.I was a newb at the time and was amazed with the 8 Cores!!11! of the 8120.
The TDP is horrendous.At an ambient temp of 35C,I get 50C idle with a 212 Evo.With the stock cooler?59C.
Bear in mind I have not even overclocked the damn thing.
It eats i7 power for firstgen i3 performance.
TL,DR;
Get an Intel.You won't regret it.

 

[Ryanrenesis]

Just get Intel.I was a newb at the time and was amazed with the 8 Cores!!11! of the 8120.
The TDP is horrendous.At an ambient temp of 35C,I get 50C idle with a 212 Evo.With the stock cooler?59C.
Bear in mind I have not even overclocked the damn thing.
It eats i7 power for firstgen i3 performance.
TL,DR;
Get an Intel.You won't regret it.

You, sir, speak the truth. One of the few AMD users who will admit to its shortcomings.

 

[TheDarkKnight16]

I also wanted to know if i need any water cooling for gtx 970 or xtra flo fans which come with cooler master n400 will work

 

[DubbleClick]

If you get the I5 4690k, also get a z97 board and an aftermarket cooler. It would be a waste of monry otherwise, paying 3k for an unlocked multiplicator that you can't use. Parts are definitely going to be cheaper by mid 2015 but until then new parts are coming out.

 

[TheDarkKnight16]

If you get the I5 4690k, also get a z97 board and an aftermarket cooler. It would be a waste of monry otherwise, paying 3k for an unlocked multiplicator that you can't use. Parts are definitely going to be cheaper by mid 2015 but until then new parts are coming out.

MSI Z97 PC Mate Motherboard, is this a good mobo? And by aftermarket cooler you meant this Deepcool Alta9 Cpu Cooler For Lga 1156/1155 And Socket 775?

 

[Ryanrenesis]

If you get the I5 4690k, also get a z97 board and an aftermarket cooler. It would be a waste of monry otherwise, paying 3k for an unlocked multiplicator that you can't use. Parts are definitely going to be cheaper by mid 2015 but until then new parts are coming out.

MSI Z97 PC Mate Motherboard, is this a good mobo? And by aftermarket cooler you meant this Deepcool Alta9 Cpu Cooler For Lga 1156/1155 And Socket 775?

I think you should go for the Gigabyte Z97X-SLI for only $10 - $20 more. Better overclocking features, better audio codec, SLI and Crossfire capabilities, SataExpress + SataM.2 capabilities. It just makes for a much better buy.

 

[Amanwhoasksthehardquestions]

While I'd usually recommend an I5 4690k, in this case the op should go cheap on cpu and motherboard and put the saved money towards a better gpu. A 6300 fx would not limit a 660 gtx, but will become a bottleneck with a 770 gtx or above, so that would be okay if he just wants to save money.
Considering he has the budget for an I7 + 660, which is approximately $300 + $180 = $480, I'd split the money vice versa, put $300 on the gpu and $180 on the cpu. That would result in an I5 4460 (and a h97 board which saves a bit of money over a z97 one) and a gtx 970, which would absolutely blow the 660 gtx away.

Gee ...

An Intel guy attacking AMD. I'm shocked.

[not]

Not my fault AMD has been in the gutter for CPU architecture, performance, as well as sales for the last 5 years.

It's literally impossible for AMD to make a better CPU than Intel when Intel's annual R&D budget is a mind-blowing 11 Billion dollars. Just to put that into perspective, that's worth more than twice AMD's entire company including all its assets.

Im sorry but AMD did invent 64bit

Technically neither of them invented 64 bit, but IA-64 was created before the Athlon 64.

Go with a i5 'k' processor as most are saying here.

 

[DubbleClick]

"MSI Z97 PC Mate Motherboard, is this a good mobo? And by aftermarket cooler you meant this Deepcool Alta9 Cpu Cooler For Lga 1156/1155 And Socket 775?"

Well, it's okay but nothing that I'd recommend for even medium overclocking for a good z97 board you're looking at ~12k rs.
And for an aftermarket cooler, at least something like a cooler master 212 evo.

If h81, I5 4440 and gtx 970 do not fit into your budget, there is no way that an I5 4690k, a z97 board, a good aftermarket cooler and a good gpu do.

h81+I5 4440 were 3.5k and 12k, together 15.5k plus 970 for 26.5k makes 42k rs.

z97 and I5 4690k and evo is 12k + 16k + 4k = 32k, so you'd have 10k left to get a gpu. And honestly, any gpu in that range is nothing you'd want to game with. For gaming, between an I5 4440 and an I5 4690k @4.4ghz, with like a gtx 980, you will maybe see 2-5 fps difference at best. Out of 150fps. For a game with 60fps, most likely not even 1 fps difference. The gpu is simply much, much, much more important for a gaming pc. If you need to save 10k from the h81 I5 4440 and gtx 970 combo, you'll be looking at h81, I3 4330 and gtx 770 maybe. Which would reallyl dance circles around I5 4690k z97 board and no gpu at all.

With 32k budget for cpu, motherboard and gpu you have these options:

1) I5 4440, h81 board, gtx 760.
Would game okay, can change to 970 later.

2) fx 6300, 970 am3+ board, r9 270x.
Would game a little better, no upgrade path at all, inferior cpu.

3) I5 4690k, z97 board, no dedicated gpu.
Great cpu performance, but can't game really. Maybe 720p low settings. But can add a 970 gtx (at least, why would you buy it else) later.

Out of these 3 options I'd take 1). Without the 760 but wait a bit until you can spend enough for a 970.

 

[TheDarkKnight16]

"MSI Z97 PC Mate Motherboard, is this a good mobo? And by aftermarket cooler you meant this Deepcool Alta9 Cpu Cooler For Lga 1156/1155 And Socket 775?"

Well, it's okay but nothing that I'd recommend for even medium overclocking for a good z97 board you're looking at ~12k rs.
And for an aftermarket cooler, at least something like a cooler master 212 evo.

If h81, I5 4440 and gtx 970 do not fit into your budget, there is no way that an I5 4690k, a z97 board, a good aftermarket cooler and a good gpu do.

h81+I5 4440 were 3.5k and 12k, together 15.5k plus 970 for 26.5k makes 42k rs.

z97 and I5 4690k and evo is 12k + 16k + 4k = 32k, so you'd have 10k left to get a gpu. And honestly, any gpu in that range is nothing you'd want to game with. For gaming, between an I5 4440 and an I5 4690k @4.4ghz, with like a gtx 980, you will maybe see 2-5 fps difference at best. Out of 150fps. For a game with 60fps, most likely not even 1 fps difference. The gpu is simply much, much, much more important for a gaming pc. If you need to save 10k from the h81 I5 4440 and gtx 970 combo, you'll be looking at h81, I3 4330 and gtx 770 maybe. Which would reallyl dance circles around I5 4690k z97 board and no gpu at all.

With 32k budget for cpu, motherboard and gpu you have these options:

1) I5 4440, h81 board, gtx 760.
Would game okay, can change to 970 later.

2) fx 6300, 970 am3+ board, r9 270x.
Would game a little better, no upgrade path at all, inferior cpu.

3) I5 4690k, z97 board, no dedicated gpu.
Great cpu performance, but can't game really. Maybe 720p low settings. But can add a 970 gtx (at least, why would you buy it else) later.

Out of these 3 options I'd take 1). Without the 760 but wait a bit until you can spend enough for a 970.

i have managed to increase my budget to 70ks and will buy all this in july 2015 (my bday 😀 😀)
i going with the same list that I mentioned earlier will just add the fan u suggested.
Is it ok or I again selected wrong parts?

 

[TheDarkKnight16]

If you get the I5 4690k, also get a z97 board and an aftermarket cooler. It would be a waste of monry otherwise, paying 3k for an unlocked multiplicator that you can't use. Parts are definitely going to be cheaper by mid 2015 but until then new parts are coming out.

MSI Z97 PC Mate Motherboard, is this a good mobo? And by aftermarket cooler you meant this Deepcool Alta9 Cpu Cooler For Lga 1156/1155 And Socket 775?

I think you should go for the Gigabyte Z97X-SLI for only $10 - $20 more. Better overclocking features, better audio codec, SLI and Crossfire capabilities, SataExpress + SataM.2 capabilities. It just makes for a much better buy.

Bro it maybe not that costly in your country but in my country it is of $243.151 and i'm getting
MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition Motherboard z97 mobo for $162.1 and
Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H for $139.76 jus tell me is it worth spending $20?

 

[DubbleClick]

i have managed to increase my budget to 70ks and will buy all this in july 2015 (my bday 😀 😀)
i going with the same list that I mentioned earlier will just add the fan u suggested.
Is it ok or I again selected wrong parts?

Great choice, however, until june 2015 there might be new hardware out for cheaper 😵.
If you ever plan to add a second gpu, yes, it's worth it then. If not, then no. A second gpu only makes sense if you will be playing at 1440p with 2 monitors or at 4k, tho. For 1080p, one 970 gtx is strong enough to handly any game out.