Intel will dump Itanic if Hammer does too well
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I would say it's good that Intel is finally realizing how important is backword compatibility. Anyways, Its also good for us consumers which will get choice of CPU. AMD will not be able to charge extra for it even if they want to for it's x86-64 support. And This will introduce competetion in x86-64 arena. We should see LOWER PRICE. And I don't see what's wrong with it.
I do want to say that it's still a rumor. But the rumor of Jackson technology was right. May be this is too.
KG
I do want to say that it's still a rumor. But the rumor of Jackson technology was right. May be this is too.
KG
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Heh...it's kind of funny too...a few weeks ago, Intel's Pat Gelsinger was having a little chat session, and when asked about Intel supporting 3Dnow!, he basically said, "Leaders lead, they don't follow."
If this rumor actually solidifies into fact, Gelsinger might end up eating crow...
<i>If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does it still cost four figures to fix?
If this rumor actually solidifies into fact, Gelsinger might end up eating crow...
<i>If a server crashes in a server farm and no one pings it, does it still cost four figures to fix?
Even if they follow, it will still be good for AMD. I don't think AMD has that much support for their x86-64 processor from software vendors. If Intel would to step in you know everyone else will follow. So in a Way intel would still be a leader. But it would still be in the back of AMD.
Plus AMD will have hard time getting Microsoft to support thier 64bit processor. And If Intel steps in we should see windows working sooner on the hammer processor then before. I think it's a Win Win situation for AMD. And not to mention the consumer who will have choice in the CPU. So it's a WIN Situation for them too.
KG
Plus AMD will have hard time getting Microsoft to support thier 64bit processor. And If Intel steps in we should see windows working sooner on the hammer processor then before. I think it's a Win Win situation for AMD. And not to mention the consumer who will have choice in the CPU. So it's a WIN Situation for them too.
KG
the 64-bit edit of windows XP is seperate, WinXP Pro doesn't support 64-bit, but windows XP, 64-bit edition does... but only with the Intel Itanium...
<A HREF="http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/overview.asp" target="_new">http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/overview.asp</A>
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hey is anyone forgetting about the linux 64 bit kernel? has been up long before windows. between a win-blow wich cost a lot of money or a linux wich cost almost nothing, wich one do you prefer? the fact is that the 64 bit world is still in devellopment... what better than a evolutive kernel for that? anyway, its a question of taste... i've got win XP since the beta 2, i love it but for me, linux is still better. Flexibility matters... well, can't wait to lay my hand on a Hammer processor..
in addtion
Most servers will do without windows X86-64 anyhow
big SledgeHammer-Market servers run Linux & UNIX...
actually there is alot of devlopment around X86-64 its an open standard not limted by licenceing (which anyonw coding IA64 needs i think) from Intel. and adopted by many Open-Source comunity as well as companys like SuSE...
Most servers will do without windows X86-64 anyhow
big SledgeHammer-Market servers run Linux & UNIX...
actually there is alot of devlopment around X86-64 its an open standard not limted by licenceing (which anyonw coding IA64 needs i think) from Intel. and adopted by many Open-Source comunity as well as companys like SuSE...
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I disagree with the Lemmings statement but however I do agree with the ROLF due to the source. It might as well be the National Inquirer, they have the same credibility.
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Come on guys. The Inquirer isn't saying this. It's from a paper from SF area. You should read the article from the new paper instead of Inquirer.
NOW C-Net is reporting this too.
http://news.com.com/2100-1001-823520.html
KG
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Kemche on 01/25/02 08:58 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
NOW C-Net is reporting this too.
http://news.com.com/2100-1001-823520.html
KG
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Kemche on 01/25/02 08:58 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
More fuel to the fire. This is from ZDNet:
<b>Intel's Plan B</b>
<A HREF="http:// http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-823583.html" target="_new">http:// http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-823583.html</A>
**Spin all you want, but we the paying consumers will have the final word**
<b>Intel's Plan B</b>
<A HREF="http:// http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-823583.html" target="_new">http:// http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-823583.html</A>
**Spin all you want, but we the paying consumers will have the final word**
Intel have to face the reality : they can't launch a 64 bit processor that didn't support 32 bit applications! It's like firing in your own feet! Just imagine all the companies that have custom-made applications. They would have to re-code them or, at least, re-compile it and test it! I really don't think that they will have much success with the Itanium...if they launch it, of course!
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I don't think that Intel will necessarily have to "dump" the Itanium core. They will probably have it for the ultra-high end users. Intel's original strategy was to wait until late 2003 to bring out IA64 to the desktop. Since AMD is going to start doing so early 2003, Intel needs Yamhill technology as a backup plan, that is all. Also remember that Intel owns the x86 instruction set, as well as x86-64, so this isn't really going to cost Intel that much more money to manufacture, just more in R&D.
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It's also on <A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/news/webnews.html?newdate=1/26/2002&frontid=#15317" target="_new">AnandTech</A> and <A HREF="http://www.extremetech.com/article/0,3396,s=201&a=21741,00.asp" target="_new">ExtremeTech</A>.
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Intel doesn't own x86-64. Come on, how could they own something they havn't even developed? Amd owns the licence for x86-64. Transmeta got a x86-64 licence from AMD last year.
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