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[castle]

Since you like quoting AMD's own words so much, I wouldnot argue with you any more b/c it is pointless. Just like to point out a few things -
1. MLC stands for multi level cell, meaning more than 1 bit per flash memory cell. In this battle field Intel is by far the leader. Sorry I cannot provide the actual link or number I just know it as a fact. So believe it or not.

2. AMD Didnot invent Mirrorbit. They licensed "MirrorBit" not long ago from an Israeli company Saifun.
http://www.my-esm.com/story/OEG20020802S0046

3. Intel's announcement is here - (is it so hard to use google?)
http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20040219comp.htm

4. How come when AMD announced they expect Q3 volume production you "imagine they are shiping some flash @ 110 now", but when speaking about Intel, you just call it "paper launch"?

 

[darko21]

Since you like quoting AMD's own words so much, I wouldnot argue with you any more b/c it is pointless. Just like to point out a few things -

Hey why get upset I thought we were trying to learn something here share what we know. You don't think you know everything do you?

1. MLC stands for multi level cell, meaning more than 1 bit per flash memory cell. In this battle field Intel is by far the leader. Sorry I cannot provide the actual link or number I just know it as a fact. So believe it or not.

Well thanks for the clairification. Sounds somthing like mirrorbit and I hear they plan to take mirrorbit to 4 bits per cell. I would have liked more info on it though positives and negatives.

2. AMD Didnot invent Mirrorbit. They licensed "MirrorBit" not long ago from an Israeli company Saifun.
http://www.my-esm.com/story/OEG20020802S0046

Yes thanks, I was aware of that but its patented or now owned by amd fujitsu and flash industry players do seem to like it.

3. Intel's announcement is here - (is it so hard to use google?)
http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20040219comp.htm

Thankyou for taking the time to google the announcement. Ok so your own link says "Volume production of single cell on 90nm is planned for the third quarter of this year"

and in my link "May 18, 2004 --Spansion, the world’s leading producer of NOR Flash memory, today announced it has started volume production of two additional Flash memory families based on 110-nanometer floating-gate technology. This is VOLUME production 30 days ago at 110nm.

4. How come when AMD announced they expect Q3 volume production you "imagine they are shiping some flash @ 110 now", but when speaking about Intel, you just call it "paper launch"?

Just so you know you said "Intel 90nm NOR flash has been announced and AMD is still producing flash at 150nm" Yet it turns out AMD is in volume production at 110nm and Intel is still only at 130nm and planning 90nm in third quarter.

AMD has be producing flash in volume at 110nm since may18th.. is it so unreasonable to assume they might be shipping some of it? and the third quarter is for another flash family. I am not perdicting any problems with intel migrating to 90nm flash they have the tools the fabs I am sure they will pull it off just fine. Intel will not have problems with flash at 90nm unlike the netburst cpu design. However Intel is seen as number 1 in the cpu flash bussiness if the balance of power is upset intel seems to dislike it very much releasing paper launches there is a history of this in cpu's so why not flash? after all spansions seems to have the lead now so just maybe intel is pushing more paper.

If I glanced at a spilt box of tooth picks on the floor, could I tell you how many are in the pile. Not a chance, But then again I don't have to buy my underware at Kmart.