Intel's Haswell Refresh Processors Pricing Revealed Online

[jimmysmitty]

I also read that Haswell when ideal save more. Well you see i use my pc from 9am to 1am daily and out of that, i my ideal (meaning no torrents or streaming) is not more than 1 hour and when i am not using at all. I simply close my pc completely. So total Power Saving
now i need to save while running it. My running cost need to be saved, not in ideal mode.

Ok L1 is the primary, than L2 when L1 is fill and lastly L3 is the last one. So that does make L1 more important, but again as stated above in i3 processor one is have 3mb and other 4mb and they is around $20 differences in them. I guess if haswell is my final choose after getting details on its electric bill 😛
otherwise i will have to find a second hand ivy bridge.
As you see i am making a new pc with limited budget but will add gpu in later stage when i start playing high end gaming. And my pc need to last me atleast 5 years.

As my current have lasted this much since i bought a second hand from the market.

Haswell moved the VRMs to the CPU itself which allowed for Intel to tune the power states. While Ivy Bridge would use only 0.5A from the 12V2 in C6/C7, Haswell can drop as low as 0.05A from the 12V2 in C6/C7. It really benefits laptops more than desktops but is still a massive improvement in power useage during sleep states. That means in standby mode, it will last 10x longer.

There are a lot of other improvements we will not see as they are not utilized by most software but when they are, Haswell will shine a bit more.

Of course Broadwell will improve even more and the Sky Lake will make Haswell look even worse.

 

[TheAshigaru]

To me, if you're looking to get 5 years of longevity out of a new CPU, I would look into a Core i5 if you can afford it. I think the two extra cores will really be beneficial several years down the road as programs get better and better at multithreading.

Also consider that the CPU won't be the only thing using power in your system. Be sure to think about getting a good Power Supply, too, with high energy efficiency ratings.

 

[mapesdhs]

I've often posted on these forums about the option of buying used items as a cost saver. I keep
buying 2700Ks, Z68 boards, etc. Now it's certainly true that a newer Haswell will use less power,
and thus cost less to run, but the purchase price difference is so huge that the saving is more than
enough to cover the power usage difference far beyond the lifetime of the device.

For example, I won a 2700K recently for 125 UKP (see item 121307544297), whereas a new 4770K
is about 245 UKP. The saving more than covers the additional power usage. A fully boxed ASUS M4E-Z
to go with it was only 80 total.

Just something to bare in mind when reading about newer parts using less power, ie. the TCO of older
hw obtained for less cost can actually be far lower. OTOH, some may desire full warranties, etc. Depends
on one's goals I suppose.

Btw, TheAshigaru, I won three Thermaltake ToughpowerXT Gold 1475W PSUs recently for 104, 107 and
135 UKP, saving almost 500 UKP vs. buying them new. 8)

Ian.

 

[Lechangs]

I have to admit intel has a nice way to name their processors without explaining what has been improved, by how much, etc.

 

[jimmysmitty]

I've often posted on these forums about the option of buying used items as a cost saver. I keep
buying 2700Ks, Z68 boards, etc. Now it's certainly true that a newer Haswell will use less power,
and thus cost less to run, but the purchase price difference is so huge that the saving is more than
enough to cover the power usage difference far beyond the lifetime of the device.

For example, I won a 2700K recently for 125 UKP (see item 121307544297), whereas a new 4770K
is about 245 UKP. The saving more than covers the additional power usage. A fully boxed ASUS M4E-Z
to go with it was only 80 total.

Just something to bare in mind when reading about newer parts using less power, ie. the TCO of older
hw obtained for less cost can actually be far lower. OTOH, some may desire full warranties, etc. Depends
on one's goals I suppose.

Btw, TheAshigaru, I won three Thermaltake ToughpowerXT Gold 1475W PSUs recently for 104, 107 and
135 UKP, saving almost 500 UKP vs. buying them new. 8)

Ian.

Cost is one thing but you also need to keep into consideration other factors such as the Z68 platform only had 2 SATA 6Gbps ports from Intel, the others were normally Marvell and sucked a lot. I only used them as eSATA due to that. On the other hand the Z87 platform has 6 SATA 6Gbps ports.

There are other things as well but I find nothing wrong with your decision. I personally wouldn't do it just because I am a bit crazy but to each their own.

 

[mapesdhs]

Yes indeed, you're absolutely right that Z68 only has two Intel SATA3 ports, and the others run
by Marvell controllers really are utterly awful IMO (though they function ok for RAID1 using
mechanical drives).

Something that surprises me is the lack of a PCIe SATA3 card from Intel, using whatever controller
logic they already use with their mbd chipsets. By definition it would work much better than most
other cards, and ought to support the usual RAID 0/1/5/10. Would be a great way to add fully
functional SATA to vast numbers of older boards, and if I understand how the mbd chipset drivers
work, it wouldn't need drivers supplied either, if one already had the usual INF/iata stuff installed,
as it would be detected automatically. If such a card existed, I'd buy a bunch for sure.

Ian.

 

[Alex1357]

thanks intel but i'll keep my LEGENDARY 2700K at 4.8 !!!! its easily on par if not faster than any i7-4790

Ivy Bridge is good

My brother got his
I7 3770 (no k) stock cooler & stock voltage to 4.3 ghz and still has low temps

 

[mapesdhs]

Ivy Bridge is good

IB has a terrible reputation; it runs far too hot compared to SB. One must delid them, etc. to get
properly good performance. Check out the temp difference examples on youtube.

Ian.

 

[Alex1357]

Ivy Bridge is good

IB has a terrible reputation; it runs far too hot compared to SB. One must delid them, etc. to get
properly good performance. Check out the temp difference examples on youtube.

Ian.

You probably dont get it i cant push it further because of multiplyier

 

[mapesdhs]

You probably dont get it i cant push it further because of multiplyier

I was commenting on IB in general, not on your specific setup.

Ian.