News Intel's patch for CPU instability and crashing issues rolls out from MSI and ASRock — Asus ROG motherboard users can also access a beta update

[Admin]

Several Intel partners have announced or released BIOS patches to fix the erroneous microcode that leads to the instability of Raptor Lake chips.

Intel's patch for CPU instability and crashing issues rolls out from MSI and ASRock — Asus ROG motherboard users can also access a beta update : Read more

 

[Gururu]

How are sites even going to test this? What are the best controls to ensure a solid confirmation of the fix?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Always have to toss in that "at least one user claimed to have a bad experience with..." comment. Even when it's clearly just hearsay.

 

[ThatMouse]

I imagine 99% of their customers will never know about this update. BIOS updates are not something an average user should do.

 

[rene641]

What is the number of new microcode? I have a Gigabye z690 UD DDR4 and latest bios update from Gigabyte was from July 17

1. Checksum : 7298
2. Introduce the "Intel Default Settings" and enabled as default, user needs to disable it first to use GIGABYTE PerfDrive profiles.
3. Update microcode 0x125 to ensure eTVB operation normally.

 

[TJ Hooker]

I imagine 99% of their customers will never know about this update. BIOS updates are not something an average user should do.

New microcode can be applied via operating system updates, I imagine that's how most people will get this fix.

 

[JarredWaltonGPU]

How are sites even going to test this? What are the best controls to ensure a solid confirmation of the fix?

Confirmation that the 'fix' works and halts degradation will be basically impossible in the short-term. All you could do is check voltages in "unlimited" mode with an old BIOS revision and then compare it to the latest BIOS to see how things have changed.

Checking the performance impact will require using an earlier BIOS with the latest Windows patches and application updates, testing that, and then installing the latest BIOS with the fix and retesting. Any older numbers from months ago are already potentially invalid so you really need to do retesting with old and new BIOS revisions to get hard numbers that are trustworthy.

 

[jeremyj_83]

Confirmation that the 'fix' works and halts degradation will be basically impossible in the short-term. All you could do is check voltages in "unlimited" mode with an old BIOS revision and then compare it to the latest BIOS to see how things have changed.

Checking the performance impact will require using an earlier BIOS with the latest Windows patches and application updates, testing that, and then installing the latest BIOS with the fix and retesting. Any older numbers from months ago are already potentially invalid so you really need to do retesting with old and new BIOS revisions to get hard numbers that are trustworthy.

All while hoping that testing with the old BIOS doesn't wind up frying the chip.

 

[helper800]

Always have to toss in that "at least one user claimed to have a bad experience with..." comment. Even when it's clearly just hearsay.

Well considering Tomshardware is not in a court proceeding, any and all 3rd party accounts of an RMA experience is fair game for journalists, that's kinda what they do.

 

[Mattzun]

Testing voltages with an oscilloscope in scenarios that previously caused weird voltage spikes is possible.
I'm sure someone like Buildzoid will do that - he had a decent video where he showed the weird spikes that were too short to see in HWInfo.

If that works, it would show that the patch isn't a complete failure, but it wouldn't show that it actually fixes the problem(s).

The best check would be for someone who claims to be able to cause 100 percent failures within 6 months of use (i.e. Alderon games) to test it on several systems with new 14900's and release results in January.
Of course, that assumes that the patch will be available on W680 motherboards in the near future.

In any case, there is no way of telling how close to failing all of the existing, damaged CPUs are.

 

[Amdlova]

My asrock is making weird noises from vrm after bios patch, removed c6 and c7 to mitigate the noises...
Asrock h670 PG riptide