News Intel's patch for CPU instability and crashing issues rolls out from MSI and ASRock — Asus ROG motherboard users can also access a beta update

[Mindstab Thrull]

People have mentioned the JayzTwoCents video. In it he also points out one big thing: check the notes for the update. Some vendors need you to only run one program, others need you to update the BIOS and run a separate program individually. YOU NEED BOTH TO MAKE SURE YOUR SYSTEM IS PROPERLY PATCHED. This is actually really important. The ones that only need one will update the BIOS and then patch the management engine on reboot. The others will be handling them individually.

 

[YSCCC]

I am curious about this. The last update (125) maxes out with ~1.45V spikes from a baseline about half of that. Those are HWINFO Vcore readings. I would like to see something different from 129.

darn, before with my manual undervolting my 14900k went 1.408VID peak from HWinfo and I was still a bit skeptical if mine is not well binned, somehow it seems it was quite a good chip from the get go... with original microcode the peak VID was ~1.46 I recall

 

[YSCCC]

What is the number of new microcode? I have a Gigabye z690 UD DDR4 and latest bios update from Gigabyte was from July 17

it is 0x129, should be out later for gigabyte, especially for our Z690 UD boards, my DDR5 ver. have 0x125 working quite well and peak VID at all workloads is 1.408V rock stable with 50mv undervolt

 

[rene641]

it is 0x129, should be out later for gigabyte, especially for our Z690 UD boards, my DDR5 ver. have 0x125 working quite well and peak VID at all workloads is 1.408V rock stable with 50mv undervolt

How did you undervolt?

 

[35below0]

I imagine 99% of their customers will never know about this update. BIOS updates are not something an average user should do.

???

Most motherboard vendors will automate this process. Unless a user blocks driver, BIOS and software updates they will automagically roll out like Windows updates, or Android/Apple updates.

 

[YSCCC]

How did you undervolt?

disable the intel extreme profile, disable undervolt protection, enable standard LLC (I forgot the name, it's the second lowest LLC), and get the Vcore to legacy adaptive voltage, set thte steps at 58x, 60x to -50mV (-0.050V) and -10mV at 56x is what I can get it run stable without once a while crashing cinebench on 30 min runs, both 2024 and R23, with this my 14900k have peak VID reported by the gigabyte board using HWinfo was 1.408V peak, and Vcore peak in MB tab being 1.380v max

 

[Mindstab Thrull]

???

Most motherboard vendors will automate this process. Unless a user blocks driver, BIOS and software updates they will automagically roll out like Windows updates, or Android/Apple updates.

I don't think I've ever since my computer automatically update its BIOS. Then again, it may need you to install the software that your motherboard manufacturer ships (whatever Control Centre-type software it is) and I rarely find that's worth it.

 

[35below0]

I don't think I've ever since my computer automatically update its BIOS. Then again, it may need you to install the software that your motherboard manufacturer ships (whatever Control Centre-type software it is) and I rarely find that's worth it.

Yeah but you're not the type to just trust the automated process and click "next" and "i accept" on everything without reading and thinking.

Motherboard vendors are not as aggressive when it comes to BIOS updates, because they know those are risky. I don't think many updates are issued in one year, not for non-enthusiast motherboards.

 

[Mindstab Thrull]

Yeah but you're not the type to just trust the automated process and click "next" and "i accept" on everything without reading and thinking.

Motherboard vendors are not as aggressive when it comes to BIOS updates, because they know those are risky. I don't think many updates are issued in one year, not for non-enthusiast motherboards.

True, but as I mentioned, it would also require installing the relevant piece of software first, and if it's not a pre-built, I don't think most people would bother installing it without a valid reason. Getting one's friend, relative, or local computer shop to build it, whoever it is probably won't install it by default unless it comes up in conversation and they say yes. I could be way off here but I don't think I am.

 

[35below0]

True, but as I mentioned, it would also require installing the relevant piece of software first, and if it's not a pre-built, I don't think most people would bother installing it without a valid reason. Getting one's friend, relative, or local computer shop to build it, whoever it is probably won't install it by default unless it comes up in conversation and they say yes. I could be way off here but I don't think I am.

Late reply, sorry.

These days most motherboard vendors ship a board that has a BIOS feature that will automatically offer to install "support" software once Windows has been installed.
Doesn't affect Linux and of course the BIOS setting can be toggled off. Most people installing Windows will probably not know or care about this.
They might decline the offer to install the software but it's usually worded in such a way as to make this something only experienced computer users would choose.

 

[Mindstab Thrull]

Late reply, sorry.

These days most motherboard vendors ship a board that has a BIOS feature that will automatically offer to install "support" software once Windows has been installed.
Doesn't affect Linux and of course the BIOS setting can be toggled off. Most people installing Windows will probably not know or care about this.
They might decline the offer to install the software but it's usually worded in such a way as to make this something only experienced computer users would choose.

Ahhh... I think I only remember seeing that once, when I upgraded my machine to DDR5 a couple months ago. Found the version that it tried installing was not even fully functional so uninstalled it and then later went to the Gigabyte website to get the newest version - which seemed actually functional. Looks like the typical rule of "go to the manufacturer's site to get your drivers" holds true here too.