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As much as I like competition and would love to se more of it Intel is the king right now. I'm neither Intel or AMD fan since I have computers with both companies processors in them. In the recent years Intel has ruled the market and if they continue like this AMD is not going to pass them for a long time.
 
I'm currious as to how AMD will respond. 100 dollar 6 core? 150 dollar 8 core? Too bad there's only so much AMD can do, as they're still on the 45nm process. Wouldn't that be so cool if AMD made a dual socket AM3 board for the desktop with crossfire support? One can only wish...

I should mention I'm a fan of both AMD and Intel. You can't deny Intel spanks AMD when it comes to raw speed. You also can't deny that AMD offers a great processor for a fair price.

 
When it comes down to it, yes intel is faster - but the price/performance ratio is much better with amd.

Unless you just have money to burn, I don't see a reason getting intel.
 
[citation][nom]EvilMonk[/nom]What? Hypertransport was not invented by AMD at all, and even if similar QPI was invented by Intel, not AMD, they are similar but still different and AMD did not invent Hypertransport.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperTransporthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel [...] terconnect[/citation]

Actually, Hypertransport was created by AMD, and it was spun off.

But, the idiot made my point for me. My point was AMD beat Intel to creating the IMC in modern x86 processors (they were FAR from the first to do it, however), but Intel's is much better.

QPI and Hypertransport are not the same as an IMC anyway, although they certainly can be used by them.
 
I have a 7 years old computer which I'm still using today, I guess I'm gonna upgrade next year whether to a Sandy Bridge architecture or waiting till 2013 to upgrade to Haswell microarchitecture which will implement FMA (fused multiply-add), or possibly even vector coprocessors. I feel I can't wait anymore but I don't have the money to upgrade very often and at the same time I don't wanna buy a PC that's getting obsolete very fast like it happens today.

From what I've read so far it seems that once they get to 22nm or 16nm, then it's pretty hard for them to go even further because there are less and less atoms that form a single transistor and they are very hard to manage at that size. And it seems that the memristor will be the next big thing in computers that will increase both storage and performance but till then we still have to wait long time.
 
[citation][nom]ta152h[/nom]Saying stupid things because you feel a need for them to be true, doesn't make them true. It just makes you sound stupid.AMD beat Intel to being dual core. AMD beat Intel to being true quad core. AMD beat Intel with the IMC. But, guess what? They are getting RAPED by them in dual, quad, and in their memory controller. Having said that, I don't think Intel will have a better IGP than ATI. Just your reasons are uninformed.Intel has created a lot of market confusion lately with their terrible segmentation, although they have done well anyway due to the upturn in business spending. But, if they release this yet another mid-level CPU, it's going to confuse the Hell out of people. LGA 1156 was very confusing, if this one mingles with the quads from that line, and doesn't come out with the big performance numbers, no one is going to be able to figure out what's best.I mention this because 3.1 GHz isn't too impressive.[/citation]


Is he uninformed? You just repeated what he said..so.....I'm gonna have to say fail. Calling someone out for being uninformed AND stupid...yet fully agreeing with him makes you sound stupid
 
[citation][nom]lradunovic77[/nom]New CPU will use 2011 and 1155 socket so it will require a new motherboard, new cpu -> thanks no.[/citation]
And that sort of socket shuffle is exactly why i didn't buy an intel ssytem this cycle
 
Sandy Bridge, Hmmmm. I know all this stuff originates from sand, but would you walk over a sandy bridge? The name sounds very temporary, what gives?
 
“So, should I upgrade to Core i7 1366 now or still wait yet? Can't keep up anymore...”

actually 1366 was the older and larger socket that will be obsolete very soon , because at that time intel was still too dumb to copy and make a phenom like cpu with L3 cache and memory controller , and then they release socket 1156 for smaller size after they became smarter . :)
 
[citation][nom]descendency[/nom]This either means AMD's bulldozer is impressive or that Intel is going for the kill.[/citation]
Or simply following on with their business plans and strategies or...or...or...
 
[citation][nom]webbwbb[/nom]I have done several chip only upgrades.[/citation]
You are in the minority.

People will now claim that they all do several chip upgrades but in reality this is bullshit.

It's only going to be parroted because it's a nice talking point right now. Kinda like how the performance/watt was a nice talking point a few years ago for these same people when Intel gained the price/performance slot with the Conroe (Core 2).

These people move the goal posts anytime their beloved company loses.

I have owned several systems and I have done some CPU only upgrades (like going from a Core i7 920 to a 980x) but I usually upgrade my motherboard.

Case in point. I had a Gigabyte nForce3 250 socket 939 motherboard which was said to eventually be capable of supporting Dual Core AMD Athlon64 X2 processors. When the processors launched... even with the latest Gigabyte BIOS.. no go.

I've had this experience several times. I had an AM2 motherboard only to find out that it would not get a BIOS upgrade for AM2+ compatibility. So lets just say I don't play that game anymore.

New CPU architecture, new motherboard. For Bulldozer, out the current AM3 board will go and in will go a new motherboard.
 
[citation][nom]marraco[/nom]How Intel managed to measure "strong demand" from a product that still don't exist?[/citation]
OEM Contracts.

They presented the product to potential buyers who like the new capabilities being introduced.
 
[citation][nom]13withinfinity[/nom]Honestly, I bet Bulldozer spooked Intel big time. AMD technically beat Intel to an on silicon IGP, where the (laughable) IGP from Intel is simply hanging out next to the processor. Time will tell which is better either way but I think AMD will be the winner this round, simply because they are the first to the plate with a fully integrated chip.[/citation]

Of course.. like AMD was the winner with their TRUE Quad Cores eh?

Yeah the original Phenom was a real winner.. really showed that Core 2 Quad who was boss huh... LOL

These are integrated graphics. They are not meant to be kick ass. Just a small power envelope and support for basic features.
 
[citation][nom]descendency[/nom]This either means AMD's bulldozer is impressive or that Intel is going for the kill.[/citation]
thats what tic toc was all about crushing amd....amd cant keep up year after year, they're thinking more return on investment while intel is flooding the market (unfortunately for amd its a great cpu)
 
[citation][nom]ElMoIsEviL[/nom]You are in the minority.[/citation]

and you base that on what?

imo as i do, 1st upgrade graphic card then ram n if after that i still want more i look to see which cpu i can switch too with my current mobo
if not enough only then do i switch mobos...and its a pain (checkin wht you want to keep vs compatibility)

plus i dt have that type of money to spend every 3months or so
 
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