Question interested in a performance comparison of tje IGP in mobile Intel 13th gen vs AMD Ryzen 7xxx for Mini-PCs

[BigGuyOlderFart]

I am looking to get a new Mini-PC to replace my Intel Skylake NUC and my wife's dead Ivy Lake ASRock Mini-PC
I see lots of info comparing the CPU performance, but not the IGP component.
High many end laptops seem to have a discrete GPU on the motherboard, but I am not seeing that for mini-PCs
I appreciate your thoughts and links
Thanks in advance

 

[Eximo]

Not typical for Mini-PCs to need a discrete GPU, and it really depends on what CPUs you are looking at. They have different grades/wattages with different iGPUs.

Larger AMD chips have up to to 12 CU RDNA3 based GPUs. Steamdeck has 8 CUs for comparison.

AMD HX processors have the smaller iGPU in the form of the 610M, only 2 CUs. These are usually paired with a GPU though.

Intel Iris Xe graphics isn't terrible, but not as much performance as any of the late model AMD chips or even the older Vega graphics found in previous APUs.

Depends on what you want to run as well.

 

[BigGuyOlderFart]

Not typical for Mini-PCs to need a discrete GPU, and it really depends on what CPUs you are looking at. They have different grades/wattages with different iGPUs.

Larger AMD chips have up to to 12 CU RDNA3 based GPUs. Steamdeck has 8 CUs for comparison.

AMD HX processors have the smaller iGPU in the form of the 610M, only 2 CUs. These are usually paired with a GPU though.

Intel Iris Xe graphics isn't terrible, but not as much performance as any of the late model AMD chips or even the older Vega graphics found in previous APUs.

Depends on what you want to run as well.

To clarify more - am I correct that the IGP in the latest AMD chips is significantly more powerful than the IGP in the 13th Gen Intel?

I know that discrete GPU isn't typical for Mini-PCs. but also not typical for laptops but some have them. It's a good way to get the Intel processor to be more equivalent to AMD IGP. At least that's my thought.

what I want to run
Mostly I want to run business stuff, using 4 - 4K HDR monitors color accuracy is important.
lots of simultaneous open browser tabs and windows
with some streaming, light gaming, and playing both local and streaming music, all simultaneously.
Security system video (remoting into the NVR and showing 16 monitors seems to take a very heavy load)
Also dual Malware protection apps
Want/Need it to have NO lag.
Also USB4/Thunderbolt for both external HD and future expandability

 

[Eximo]

There are certainly some thunderbolt 4 capable mini-PC out there, and yes I would lean towards AMD. But not really seeing any that can do 4 4K displays natively.

Amazon.com

4 4K displays is a bit much for an iGPU. Running displays off adapters means system memory and CPU usage, or via a thunderbolt dock.

You can also look into building a small form factor PC with a bespoke high display count card.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TNGj4D/amd-video-card-100505724

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x4bkcf/pny-quadro-p2000-5gb-video-card-vcqp2000-pb

Thunderbolt is a bit of an issue though, often found only on higher end larger motherboards.