Interested in building my first computer ($1200ish)

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Hey guys, currently I own a laptop I've been gaming on without dedicated graphics, and I'm interested in upping my experience as its a main hobby of mine. I'm new at this and it will be my first time but I wanted to buy parts and assemble a PC as I think it would be a fun project to achieve a better system.

My budget is about $1200, though I could extend past that a bit if it's not enough to handle the games I plan on playing (and would like to max anywhere possible). I would need to buy a monitor and keyboard, though I'm not sure I'm including those in my budget price. Also, I'm assuming I'd need to put my own Windows on there, and in that case I'd need to buy a license because I don't have one lying around.

I play various games like Smite (runs at 24-32 fps mid settings on my laptop), Fallout New Vegas, Payday 2, and Civilization V. Also, I play a bunch of Don't Starve which one would think would be a breeze to run at 60 fps all the time compared to some games, but my laptop struggles when more objects get on the screen (which is super noticeable in this game). I'd like to play more games that my laptop simply can't handle at an enjoyable experience such as Skyrim and GTA V now that that's on PC. I'd love to be able to handle max settings on as many games as possible and still maintain a killer frame rate.

Not sure how good of a build I'd get to run these games at this price, but my budget may be able to wiggle little bit, so any help and advice is greatly appreciated as this is my first time like I said and I'm unsure where to start.

Thanks all!
 
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Getting it to the budget is easy, just skip the overclocking. Can even manage to do it with an i7 class chip and better SSD. 😀

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($17.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal...
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.75 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.75 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair Force LS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($60.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($71.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: LG 22MP55HQ-P 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($26.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1162.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-15 13:31 EDT-0400

theres no OS here, but you can buy windows 8.1 pro threw the student way from the microsoft website. look online for tutorials.
 
since you'll pretty much get the same i5 + ssd + gtx 970 build on here with that budget, i decided to mix it up a little bit. This build is a black&white color scheme build.

personally i think it will look pretty sharp when put together. your choice if you like the coloring or not.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.75 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($120.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($71.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1162.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-15 13:37 EDT-0400
 


This is in reply to davidarad02 as well,

Thank you both for replying! How will each of these builds fare in playing some of those higher end games like GTA V? The 16gb of ram in that second build seems nice, how do the motherboards compare?
 
if the desired resolution is 1080p, then the GTX 970 will handle new games very well. mine maxes most games with 60+ FPS, and with some games it can even handle higher resolutions such as 1440p. 16 GB of RAM isn't needed for gaming, the most i've seen used while only gaming was about 6 GB, so 8 GB will be plenty.

as for the motherboard, i personally recommend either the ASRock Z97 Extreme4 or the ASUS Z97-A. but out of the two listed above, the Gigabyte Z97X is the better one in my opinion, but there isn't really much difference.
 


Yeah sorry I should've specified the resolution, I play at 1920x1080p for every game I currently have except Injustice, it runs so terribly on my laptop.

Thanks for your input! Do you happen to have a link to the motherboards you listed?
 


motherboards on the z97 platform are basically chosen based on looks and the sound card... maybe size and number of PCIE slots.

Generally there is no real difference beyond that between them.
 
here, i'll just post the entire build i would recommend:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.69 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($133.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.49 @ Directron)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($339.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1110.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-15 18:20 EDT-0400

that's with the ASRock Extreme4 (which is recommended by Tom's Hardware actually), and the alternative would be ASUS Z97-A:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z97a
 


not true. the heat sinks and power phase play a part when overclocking, so there is more to consider than just color scheme. the Extreme4 has a 12 phase i think which will deliver better power to the cpu than 6 or 8 phase
 
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YCqG6h
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YCqG6h/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.75 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($58.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1125.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-15 18:43 EDT-0400
 


asrock uses a phase doubler in which their physical 6+1 mosfet design "acts" like a 12+2 design. they can do things like that with intel and it doesn't really matter due to the reasons later outlined in this post. on AMD systems that design doesn't overclock well at well.

and no, the mosfet design on intel boards hasn't mattered since haswell, when they moved all the important voltage regulators onto the cpu itself. seriously. look at the overclocking numbers achieved on the boards with weak designs and those with the good designs. they all overclock within 100mhz of each other. the limiting factor is the voltage regulators on the cpu.
 
You've all been great help! My laptop is starting to crap out on me in other ways anyway so I'll be getting these parts together here soon.

I assume I can find helpful guides and videos on how to build it online, but do any of you have tips for me going into this for the first time?

Thanks again!
 


Get a anti-static wrist band or somewhere static-free to avoid breaking your pc parts.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.75 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($549.00 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($65.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1261.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-16 03:07 EDT-0400
 


Thanks for the tip! I'll be sure to pick one up.
Is that GTX 980 worth the increase in price over the GTX 970?
 



Well, It's all a matter of personal preference, i mean, the GTX 980 is 15-20% more powerful than the 970, and also it doesn't have the 3.5VRAM issue ( I think ).

But the GTX 970 is actually pretty good for It's price, and if you have a decent cooling system, you can overclock it to reach the speed of the 980.

If you go with the 970 and plan to overclock it, you should have a really good GPU cooling, maybe a Kraken G10 + AIO? 😀

I would personally just save a bit more and get 970 SLI. All up to you, bud.

 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS10X Performa CPU Cooler ($25.99 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($554.99 @ B&H)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1247.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-16 15:39 EDT-0400
 
Getting it to the budget is easy, just skip the overclocking. Can even manage to do it with an i7 class chip and better SSD. 😀

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($17.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($83.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($554.99 @ B&H)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case ($32.29 @ Directron)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1197.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-16 15:52 EDT-0400
 
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May I ask what the 3.5VRAM issue is? And SLI is when you link two GPU's as one combined thing right?
 
The card is listed as 4gb, but only 3.5gb, of the card, is actually useful. the other 0.5 gb is slower than the other 3.5gb. For 1080p gaming, it doesn't matter any at all. 1440p, it may have some effect. It is the 4k res gamers that it affects the most. SLI is 2 or more Nvidia GPU's linked together.
 


So what's the different between that Intel i5 and the Xeon you just mentioned? Also, is CPU cooling the same as GPU cooling? Do you need both? And what will overclocking do? Thanks for the reply btw!
 
The Xeon, I picked, is essentially an i7 4770, without the integrated graphics. CPU cooling is not the same as GPU cooling. Yes you need both. The CPU includes a cooler, that is sufficient, but the TX3 is a bit better. Overclocking is when you run the cpu at a speed faster than its stock clock speed. Generally, I do not recommend it, because it costs more, and you can use the money spent elsewhere, that will be beneficial to you.
 


Ahh okay that all makes sense! So that i7 will outperform the i5 then. In the PC part picker lists I don't see something for GPU cooling, so how will that work when I go to build this? Is it just an extra piece or something I'll need to pick up?

So excited to order this stuff!
 
The i7 is generally not much better, but in a few select games. Crysis 3 is an example of a game that benefits from i7. Future games will become more multithreaded, expanding the selection of CPU's that benefit from the i7. The GPU has its own cooler. No need for aftermarket cooling.
 


Oh okay I gotcha. Well that's really cool then! So I just get the parts and assemble them carefully? Where does post-assembly driver configuration and stuff come in? Just so I know what to expect on the software side of things.