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I agree with most everything you state with one exception.

And that's the generalization. No one can fault you for not wanting to
buy another Epson, I'd feel similarly if I had a similar experience.
However, for me at least, the problem is when you make a definitive
statement like "all Epsons are..." Clearly, that's just not so. Mine
haven't done what yours have, and neither have millions of other Epson
printers.

So, saying: From my experience with Epson UK, and the C62 printers I
owned, I won't be buying another Epson printer for some time to come,
because some of their printers are garbage and don't last.

That's a totally factual statement and warns people about the potential
problem they might experience.

It's the histrionics that come off sounding a bit ranting and unhinged.

Lastly, the problem you and others are going to have to deal with is
what do you replace the printer with, that will be more reliable and
serviceable than the Epson was?


The market isn't easy to find the perfect printer these days.


Art
 
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PC Medic wrote:

>"Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>>>"Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>>>>In all fairness, every printer mfgr and each of their models has
>>>>inherent weaknesses and strengths. for the best information on Canon
>>>>printers/inks/papers - go to http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/ and also
>>>>follow the link on that site to Neil Slade's site and read all of his
>>>>sections. We only have one totally loose canon on this site and he will
>>>>undoubtedly follow this post with name calling and his usual
>>>>misinformation. Best to disregard him and not bother to respond, except
>>>>to correct his biased, defamatory posts.
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>>>In all fairness for the "Best Information" on ANY product, go to the
>>>manufacture.
>>>I personally found this site just as I find this newsgroup, some useful
>>>and accurate info, and much mis-information but newbie's and wannabe
>>>techs that have no clue. Proceed with caution on any advice.
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>>PC - unfortunately the manufacturer's sites don't address the issue, among
>>others, of preventing and/or clearing head clogs.
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>Perhaps 'your' manufactures site does not, but mine (and many others) does.
>See "Step-by-Step Troubleshooting" here for example...
>http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=SupportDetailAct&fcategoryid=257&modelid=10438
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>> My Epson Stylus 900, used only with OEM inks, had to be rescued with Art
>>Entlich's instruction manual. His techniques worked extremely well and
>>restored my printer to new function.
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>I have not read his entire 'Instruction Manual' , and while I have seen some
>good advice, I have seen some bad.
>The forums located there appear to be as loaded with 'wannabe' technical
>advice as most newsgroups with advice that can often lead to more problems
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Just like this one.

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>>Likewise, they don't inform you about the number of cleaning cycles to try
>>or the fact that these printers shouldn't be left to sit idle for extended
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>See my first response above. Also keep in mind that "I haven't printed in
>two weeks and..." is not considered an "extended period of time. I see this
>often in the groups and see recommendations from others about running
>excessive head cleanings or soaking printheads in corrosive solutions, of
>which both can cause more harm than good. Does it 'sometimes' work, perhaps,
>but that does not make it good advice any more than a bad printer (computer,
>t.v., toaster) or whatever makes the manufacture a peddler of junque! To
>make matters worse is how often I hear this advice given without the
>question "are you still under warranty?".
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>>suggested, a real mix of information. Some of it is extremely useful, and
>>some in my opinion, is just interesting as background. Over the 25 years
>>I have been involved with computers I have easily had as many problems
>>solved through responses in newsgroups as with the manufacturers' or
>>software vendors' tech support. As a matter of fact, I've read all of
>>your postings for several months and you often provide helpful
>>information for people that they can't get from the mfgrs. You are a
>>positive example of just the point I am making. Are those sites the
>>absolutely last word? I wouldn't presume to say that. They do have
>>information from user experience that the mfgrs don't provide.
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>Agreed and again why I suggest, take what you read there (and here) with a
>grain of salt.
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