IPS vs TN panel overall GLOW intensity

[Yuki Core]

I am looking for a G-sync enabled monitor. And I was wondering if IPS glow is a big issue.
Currently using a cheap Samsung TN panel monitor. I have a little backlight bleed, nothing too noticeable, but mostly because it's consistently from all bottom bar.

So I wish to know is IPS panel would really GLOW, if for example I was watching a movie, with dark scenes, or any scenes actually, as most of them are in a aspect ratio which will feature black bars, HOW noticeable is the glow of the black color?

 

[SBMfromLA]

I'm not an expert but it really depends on each individual monitor and the quality control. Your question was asked before and discussed:

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2565339/backlight-bleeding-lottery.html

 

[Yuki Core]

I'm not an expert but it really depends on each individual monitor and the quality control. Your question was asked before and discussed:

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2565339/backlight-bleeding-lottery.html

Specifically I am comparing AHVA IPS monitor "Acer XB271HU" and "Asus PG279Q" vs TN "Dell S2716DG"

While I think I would really would appreciate the IPS, I have my laptop and mobile phone with IPS displays, and I am loving them, for my stationary gaming computer TN seems fair enough, but I am lacking 100+ Hz and G-Sync. And while the IPS for Acer and Asus looks very good on paper, they actually suffer from Quality control on the panel itself, it suffers from backlight bleeding and unequal backlight glow. Which is the major reason why I am looking at Dell S2716DG.

 

[nokturrduk84]

Yes, it's depends on model. For example look how Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM looks in the dark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyXSC1poJZs

But, I didn't notice such a big glow on my friend's 24' inch IPS monitor.

My 29'inch IPS monitor has quite big glow on dark scenes, almost like that monitor on that video, but IPS has better viewing angles & colors also look better on IPS.

Short answer: For dark/black colors TN is better, but with anything else IPS is superior.

 

[Yuki Core]

Yes, it's depends on model. For example look how Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM looks in the dark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyXSC1poJZs

But, I didn't notice such a big glow on my friend's 24' inch IPS monitor.

My 29'inch IPS monitor has quite big glow on dark scenes, almost like that monitor on that video, but IPS has better viewing angles & colors also look better on IPS.

Short answer: For dark/black colors TN is better, but with anything else IPS is superior.

How superior are we talking? Is the sharpness still better with IPS, or TN have caught up? I know that TN isn't able to reproduce colors as well as IPS. Maybe you can take a look and compare at this detailed review and analysis of the Dell monitor? http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_s2716dg.htm

And here is the IPS G-Sync monitor, the same site reviews it.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus_rog_swift_pg279q.htm

I find it hard to find a conclusion in comparing the two displays.

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

AHVA isn't IPS. TN typically have much less defects than IPS/like monitors so that's a tough one. If we factor in viewing angles, then TN looks horrible compared to an IPS monitor. As far as sharpness is concerned, that's up to contrast, resolution and size of the monitor. The higher the contrast, the sharper it'll look, so a 1440p IPS is going to look less sharp than a 1080p VA. TN now use 8 bit panels in a lot of monitors so that's pretty close to IPS. It's hard to compare displays, because of outsourcing and different batches.

 

[Yuki Core]

AHVA isn't IPS. TN typically have much less defects than IPS/like monitors so that's a tough one. If we factor in viewing angles, then TN looks horrible compared to an IPS monitor. As far as sharpness is concerned, that's up to contrast, resolution and size of the monitor. The higher the contrast, the sharper it'll look, so a 1440p IPS is going to look less sharp than a 1080p VA. TN now use 8 bit panels in a lot of monitors so that's pretty close to IPS. It's hard to compare displays, because of outsourcing and different batches.

That's what I've heard, but people say that AHVA is still a lot better than TN, and is very, very close to an actual IPS screen.
But I might actually give the Dell's monitor a shot, since the AHVA G-sync monitors have a lot of bad batches, and a lot of people complaining and exchanging them.

Viewing angle isn't much of a deal for me, as I use the monitor only straight on, no weird positions. But as far as the tests say on the reviews mentioned in my 1 post earlier, they seem neck to neck, can You please confirm this?

 

[Yuki Core]

I bought the Dell S2716DG. This is what I can say about it - The colors are very great, after calibrating with a calibrated/tested setup by tftcentral. Whites are excellent, blacks are deep, little to no backlight bleeding. Without a calibrated ICC profile by tftcentral, gamma was way too much off, but after it was just like it should be. All the colors are very lifelike, and look very close to true colors, if you are looking for vivid, over-saturated colors, you won't get it out from this panel, but aside from viewing angles, I'd honestly would find it hard believe this is not an IPS monitor.

But here comes the one drawback with this monitor, the anti-glare coating is pretty bad for this panel, when it comes for viewing pleasure, this is a huge step back from what I was mentioning previously. When bright content is viewed it's quite noticeable that the colors are not clean, but rather grainy, this makes it look like screen is covered in dust all the time. It's a shame, but I think I will let it pass. It's a lot more noticeable the closer you are to the screen, and advantages of the coating are almost non-existent reflections, which help the colors stay well saturated when used in daylight.

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

Great to hear!

Quick note/Correction!

ICC profiles aren't necessarily going to give you perfect colors, as because I've mentioned above, outsourcing and different batches means that 1 ICC profile can't be accurate/look the same on all other monitors of the same model #. However, the results you get, can still achieve a better result than doing it by eye, or if you aren't very experienced with colors. A lot of the time I hear about people using colorimeters, and they post their graphs. That's fine, but a graph doesn't mean that the colors in person are accurate, instead all you'll have is an accurate graph.

And, while you may not like a matte display, and yes, some are made poor and some are excellent. As far as accurate colors are concerned, they can only be achieved on a matte display. A monitor with a glossy coating, cannot display accurate colors, ever.

And, it's use isn't necessarily to be used as a super accurate monitor for editing with. It's also a gaming monitor, as it's 144 Hz. Glad you're happy with your purchase, not a lot of people take their time to write a conclusion after their purchase, which is a shame, is it's very helpful to people that come across this thread via a quick Google search.




All the best!

 

[Yuki Core]

Great to hear!

Quick note/Correction!

ICC profiles aren't necessarily going to give you perfect colors, as because I've mentioned above, outsourcing and different batches means that 1 ICC profile can't be accurate/look the same on all other monitors of the same model #. However, the results you get, can still achieve a better result than doing it by eye, or if you aren't very experienced with colors. A lot of the time I hear about people using colorimeters, and they post their graphs. That's fine, but a graph doesn't mean that the colors in person are accurate, instead all you'll have is an accurate graph.

And, while you may not like a matte display, and yes, some are made poor and some are excellent. As far as accurate colors are concerned, they can only be achieved on a matte display. A monitor with a glossy coating, cannot display accurate colors, ever.

And, it's use isn't necessarily to be used as a super accurate monitor for editing with. It's also a gaming monitor, as it's 144 Hz. Glad you're happy with your purchase, not a lot of people take their time to write a conclusion after their purchase, which is a shame, is it's very helpful to people that come across this thread via a quick Google search.




All the best!

Thanks, when it comes to colors I don't look for the perfect, I look for something that is very close to natural, and maybe with a little bit more vibrancy, but rarely. I don't have any professional work to be done with colors, so I am fine as is. If I wanted more it would probably be a smarter idea just to buy a display calibrator. But you're right.

I did not know that about matte displays, thank you for telling me this, I always thought that it was the other way around, that matte display mutes colors and therefore can't produce the correct tone. But makes sense, rarely any object is as bright as a pixel of a monitor, dimming that light should produce a more lifelike color. Don't know if I wrote what I meant really, I'm struggling to find the correct words in this topic.

Yeah, this monitor is more Gaming > Accuracy, but it manages to do both quite well, and the looks of it is just professional, just like their other IPS monitor with same design, and that's exactly what I wanted, not some disgusting extreme gamer design. About the design of it I am extremely satisfied, except the glossy back, but it's against a wall, so that doesn't bother much.

Edit : Also I never claimed that the monitor has accurate colors, I just noted that they look very life-like (to me).

 

[adityaramadn]

I was tired already replacing g752vs 2 units. and the result is the same
I plan to replace the panel Tn gt73vr
whether it can suffer bleed screen also