Question Is 32GB Really Needed?

[Oasis Curator]

Hello

I have 8GB in my system at the moment, but found Task Manager was saying 7.9GB of that was being used already.
Some programs are a little slow loading (they're already on an SSD) and even though I plan to at minimum have 16GB, I'd rather not have to think about upgrading in the future.
Problem is, 32GB obviously cost twice as much, £100 or so.
I don't plan on overclocking but the Corsair Vengeance RAM I was looking at is "built for overclocking".

Is there much difference between Class 16 and Class 18? The latter is £20 more expensive.

 

[TheFlash1300]

4GB of ram with Windows 10 pretty much allows to do only one thing at a time, if it's web browsing then just web browsing = no game must be open. If it's playing a game that's moderately demanding on resources (DNF Duel for example), then only game should be open, web browser must be closed. Really old games can be handled just fine though (Eternal Fighter Zero for example), I chat on discord while playing online with friends.

Why just one operation at a time? With 4GB of RAM, I can have multiple apps opened, including image editing programs, browsers, hotpot, Bluetooth, folders, My Computers, game servers, Virtual Machines, and more...

The last time I had more than one app opened, was a few hours ago, when I used Google Chrome and opened 5 pages - 1 page to a forum, and 4 pages to a different image hosting sites. At the same time, I had an image editing program opened, so I can edit an image and upload it to the internet.

I have used Website Copier programs, photoshop, and video editing/rendering programs, like Camtasia and OpenShot, including Topaz Lab's Gigapixel and Video AI.

I also used to have 3 game servers running at the same time with a total of 86 players in them, including CPU players, AI bots.

Currenty, I'm using this computer for browsing, YouTube, blog publications, surfing heavy database websites, image/video uploads and editing, TeamViewer to use my other computer from a distance, image editing, compilation of codes into machine languages, copy-paste/data transfer of large amounts to data, and archiving in WinRAR's option for Dictionry size of 4096KB. Currently, I have two operating systems.

The current computer has been used for some really heavy tasks, and has had its CPU at 90-100% for days, weeks, and one time for a month.

People often underestimate technology and think that if something isn't the newest, it must not work properly. In reality, many technologies that are considered weak, work properly. I have a laptop from 2008 - it can run Windows 10, too.

By the way, I have an old, vintage phone, called Nokia RH-9 and it still works and can receive SMSs and phone calls, just like the newest flagship smartphone can. I'm not using it because I have a smartphone, but I still kept it after I stopped using it. This proves that old tech can do things newest tech can do.

Sorry, but I find it hard, as have others, to believe any of this is accurate. I too would need to see it in action to believe it. Even with 16GB I've had some VMs act slightly glitchy and laggy at times

It's true, I'm not lying.

Glitchy? It depends on the VM app and how heavy it is. I'm using Oracle VM VirtualBox; it runs smoothly. I'm using it only for Windows 7. Win7 is a light OS.

 

[USAFRet]

People often underestimate technology and think that if somethings isn't the newest, it must not work properly. In reality, many technologies that are considered weak, work properly. I have a laptop from 2008 - it can run Windows 10, too.

Not trying to be funny, but it seems as if you think the rest of us out here are new at this, and have no idea of old and new tech and what can, and cannot be done.

You could not be more wrong.

From 3 yrs ago:

Discussion - What's the oldest and/or cheesiest system you have Win 10 installed on?

Mine is a 2009 era Toshiba Satellite L305-S5955 Celeron 900, 2.2GHz, 2GB RAM, 250GB HDD. The only upgrade from stock was a warranty replacement of the original 160GB HDD to the current 250GB. Currently v1903, Build 18362.295 https://www.cnet.com/products/toshiba-satellite-l305-s5955/specs/...

forums.tomshardware.com

 

[USAFRet]

I have used Website Copier programs, photoshop, and video editing/rendering programs, like Camtasia and OpenShot, including Topaz Lab's Gigapixel and Video AI.

Any recent version of Adobe "photoshop" will surely struggle in a system with 4GB RAM.

Struggle, as in watching paint dry, at best.

 

[alceryes]

Any recent version of Adobe "photoshop" will surely struggle in a system with 4GB RAM.

Struggle, as in watching paint dry, at best.

More likely just downright fail if you're working with anything larger than an avater pic.

 

[Tac 25]

Why just one operation at a time? With 4GB of RAM, I can have multiple apps opened, including image editing programs, browsers, hotpot, Bluetooth, folders, My Computers, game servers, Virtual Machines, and more...

The last time I had more than one app opened, was a few hours ago, when I used Google Chrome and opened 5 pages - 1 page to a forum, and 4 pages to a different image hosting sites. At the same time, I had an image editing program opened, so I can edit an image and upload it to the internet.

I have used Website Copier programs, photoshop, and video editing/rendering programs, like Camtasia and OpenShot, including Topaz Lab's Gigapixel and Video AI.

I also used to have 3 game servers running at the same time with a total of 86 players in them, including CPU players, AI bots.

Currenty, I'm using this computer for browsing, YouTube, blog publications, surfing heavy database websites, image/video uploads and editing, TeamViewer to use my other computer from a distance, image editing, compilation of codes into machine languages, copy-paste/data transfer of large amounts to data, and archiving in WinRAR's option for Dictionry size of 4096KB. Currently, I have two operating systems.

The current computer has been used for some really heavy tasks, and has had its CPU at 90-100% for days, weeks, and one time for a month.

People often underestimate technology and think that if something isn't the newest, it must not work properly. In reality, many technologies that are considered weak, work properly. I have a laptop from 2008 - it can run Windows 10, too.

By the way, I have an old, vintage phone, called Nokia RH-9 and it still works and can receive SMSs and phone calls, just like the newest flagship smartphone can. I'm not using it because I have a smartphone, but I still kept it after I stopped using it. This proves that old tech can do things newest tech can do.


It's true, I'm not lying.

Glitchy? It depends on the VM app and how heavy it is. I'm using Oracle VM VirtualBox; it runs smoothly. I'm using it only for Windows 7. Win7 is a light OS.

as I said on previous post. It totally depends..

repeating again my example.. Eternal Fighter Zero which is a game released 20 years ago is light on resources, with 4GB ram I can play the game, and have discord open to chat with friends while playing with them online. In contrast, DNF Duel is a game released just July this year is more demanding on resources - playing the game alone is fine, but trying to alt tab out of it to chat on the browser will cause the game to crash (just the game, not the pc). My machine is on SSD and has decentl GPU, a GTX 1650 GDDR6.

 

[The Paladin]

I feel we have strayed a long way from the OP's Question at this point.
Should the OP be upgrading to 16 or 32GB for his 8GB system tapping the upper edge of 8GB, the answer is yes, but 32GB isn't really needed.

I will not address the claims of running windows 10 with 4GB of ram and running a VM inside it is possible or not as this is getting to feel more like a "debate" than an actual conversation per se if you can run windows 4GB and run VM with it.. congrats you have a slug on your hands.

Still, the fact remains it's no longer relevant to the OP questions.

 

[Karadjgne]

He has a R5 2600. He will Not be using 4 sticks of ram. Period. Throw the option of Adding ram out the window, it doesn't exist for that cpu. Op's choice is simple. 2x8Gb or 2x16Gb. That's it.

It's a Ryzen 2600. 2x8Gb will most likely run better than 2x16Gb at 3200MHz. It's only at 2933MHz that they stand a chance of being equal, as the 2x8Gb will most likely be single rank ram (if it's not the cheap stuff) and 2x16Gb will almost guaranteed be dual rank ram. 1st and 2nd Gen Ryzen do Not like high speed dual rank ram.

Which was the issue with trying to run Corsair LPX at 3200MHz in the first place, it's dual rank SkHynix. It ran just fine at 2933MHz, but ppl complained about issues setting XMP, which automatically set frequency at 3200MHz.

 

[Colif]

the Paladin is correct, the topic did get sidetracked but some statements just have to be questioned.

 

[palladin9479]

Human eye can't see more than 4G of RAM

640K is all we'll ever need.

Sorry , totally had to toss that one out there.

 

[Karadjgne]

Human eye can't see more than 4G of RAM

I must be inhuman... I swear I saw 8Gb the other day, it was just sitting there, staring back at me. Gave me the shivers. Very unnerving... 🤣