[SOLVED] Is 8gb ram enough for athlon 200ge without gpu?

[Pankaj12325]

Is 8 gb enough for athlon 200ge

 

[COLGeek]

Sure. Should be fine for general use (web surfing, basic office tasks, light gaming, etc). More memory and a discrete GPU would be better, but you can certainly operate with 8GB of memory.

Hopefully, you have 2x4GB of memory for better performance (dual channel) than 1x8GB (single channel).

 

[punkncat]

I would actually go the other way and say no. In my own experience I wouldn't waste the money on a 200GE(again).

The APU itself is going to reserve 2GB of RAM. The system will reserve a bit, and you will be operating on ~5.5 GB. If you have any familiarity with running Windows 10 off around 4 GB, you know why I am hesitant to suggest it. Will it run? Yeah...will it be good? No. Especially with a HDD.

Knowing there is a significant difference in cost, I would STILL recommend either going full Ryzen 3 with the APU, or try to find any manner of cheap GPU to pair with the non APU version(s). You will be FAR happier, far longer.
I have a review here somewhere I would have to go look. If you are buying this to use because you saw it was "good for entry level gaming" on FB PLEASE rethink the idea.
If you simply need something super low power and cool to surf web pages you might be happy with it. In the case that the power and heat aren't an issue, IMO going with a used/refurbished business class computer like a Dell or HP would be FAR better bang for buck.

The single only reason that I would actually recommend this chip is as a place holder for a future upgrade you are saving towards in another CPU and/or simply to have for BIOS updates on mobo that need it.

 

[Pankaj12325]

So which will be better athlon 200ge 8gb or ryzen 2200g or 4gb for moderate lgaming. I will add another 4gb in future.
Or should i wait month or two to buy ryzen 2200g with 8 gb and purchase another 8gb in future as mb have only two slots

Sure. Should be fine for general use (web surfing, basic office tasks, light gaming, etc). More memory and a discrete GPU would be better, but you can certainly operate with 8GB of memory.

Hopefully, you have 2x4GB of memory for better performance (dual channel) than 1x8GB (single channel).

I would actually go the other way and say no. In my own experience I wouldn't waste the money on a 200GE(again).

The APU itself is going to reserve 2GB of RAM. The system will reserve a bit, and you will be operating on ~5.5 GB. If you have any familiarity with running Windows 10 off around 4 GB, you know why I am hesitant to suggest it. Will it run? Yeah...will it be good? No. Especially with a HDD.

Knowing there is a significant difference in cost, I would STILL recommend either going full Ryzen 3 with the APU, or try to find any manner of cheap GPU to pair with the non APU version(s). You will be FAR happier, far longer.
I have a review here somewhere I would have to go look. If you are buying this to use because you saw it was "good for entry level gaming" on FB PLEASE rethink the idea.
If you simply need something super low power and cool to surf web pages you might be happy with it. In the case that the power and heat aren't an issue, IMO going with a used/refurbished business class computer like a Dell or HP would be FAR better bang for buck.

The single only reason that I would actually recommend this chip is as a place holder for a future upgrade you are saving towards in another CPU and/or simply to have for BIOS updates on mobo that need it.

 

[punkncat]

So which will be better athlon 200ge 8gb or ryzen 2200g or 4gb for moderate lgaming. I will add another 4gb in future.
Or should i wait month or two to buy ryzen 2200g with 8 gb and purchase another 8gb in future as mb have only two slots

I would highly suggest you go with the Ryzen 3, or better, if you are gaming with this.

As to the RAM. Ryzen tend to be very finicky about selection. In the case that you cannot immediately budget 2 sticks of RAM (and I would target 16GB) I would still suggest getting the 1x8 and then as quick as possible buy a "matching" stick.
With that said. You will have a big performance hit with 1 stick. The only reason I say do this is if you go 2x4 with the mobo you have (2 slots) you will have to do away with/sell that RAM for a loss to then turn around and get 2x8.
As mentioned, Ryzen is picky about RAM. You will be taking a chance buying them apart from one another that they aren't compatible. To lessen that chance I would only select RAM off the mobo QVL such that at least the manufacturer gives the nod it will work. That way each selected and purchased separately stick will have the most chance of working together.

Even with the Ryzen APU gaming from them is going to be lowered settings and resolutions. It's a great way to get your system up and running, usable, and even the APU models of Ryzen pack enough punch to perform decently after you upgrade to a GPU later perhaps. The Athlon does not have that power.

My review on the Athlon:

Question - Athlon 200GE...a usage review

I wanted to share some of my own thoughts about this CPU. I was looking to build a cheap storage solution/NAS replacement and it was suggested to me in my advice thread. First, I would say that you would be HARD pressed to find anything new, for $45 and "ok" on board graphics that would truly...

forums.tomshardware.com

 

[Pankaj12325]

I would highly suggest you go with the Ryzen 3, or better, if you are gaming with this.

As to the RAM. Ryzen tend to be very finicky about selection. In the case that you cannot immediately budget 2 sticks of RAM (and I would target 16GB) I would still suggest getting the 1x8 and then as quick as possible buy a "matching" stick.
With that said. You will have a big performance hit with 1 stick. The only reason I say do this is if you go 2x4 with the mobo you have (2 slots) you will have to do away with/sell that RAM for a loss to then turn around and get 2x8.
As mentioned, Ryzen is picky about RAM. You will be taking a chance buying them apart from one another that they aren't compatible. To lessen that chance I would only select RAM off the mobo QVL such that at least the manufacturer gives the nod it will work. That way each selected and purchased separately stick will have the most chance of working together.

Even with the Ryzen APU gaming from them is going to be lowered settings and resolutions. It's a great way to get your system up and running, usable, and even the APU models of Ryzen pack enough punch to perform decently after you upgrade to a GPU later perhaps. The Athlon does not have that power.

My review on the Athlon:

Question - Athlon 200GE...a usage review

I wanted to share some of my own thoughts about this CPU. I was looking to build a cheap storage solution/NAS replacement and it was suggested to me in my advice thread. First, I would say that you would be HARD pressed to find anything new, for $45 and "ok" on board graphics that would truly...

forums.tomshardware.com

Thanks.
I was buying this cpu for gaming. I dont have issues on playing in low graphics.
So the athlon will not work for gaming.
What about pairing 4gb with 8 gb stick to make 12 gb ram

 

[Pankaj12325]

I watched a video and there was difference of not more than 5 fps for 8gb vs 16gb. Maybe because of low graphic setting as gpu might be bottleneck for ram.

Video

 

[NightHawkRMX]

The APU will use 2gb for VRAM. That leaves you with 6gb. Then the OS will at least eat 2gb.
Many games will run on the remaining 4gb ram, but some will have issues. Don't think about multitasking with a game.

And the 200ge is not great to begin with.

If would strongly suggest the 3200g if you are gaming. Lower graphics cannot make up for the very weak dual-core CPU part of this APU.

Or you could go for the cheaper and better performing Athlog 3000g, then overclock it to 3.9ghz or so.