[SOLVED] Is a better Mhz screen going to help?

[stephenlatimer7]

Please excuse the rather simple line of questioning. Im very much a noive when it some to screens and so forth.

Recently purchased a GTX 1080 GPU (Upgrade from 1060). Nothing special these days but research suggested it would still do fine for gaming. Noticed an increase from former card, nothing mind blowing cut a bit. Suspect the Ryzen 1700 may be a slight bottleneck (again based on research)

Now so many people have told me that gaming in 144Mhz is a pretty awesome experience. My understanding is that the display could effectively churn out 144 fps if pushed? Sopunds atractive.

I've run various tests and the max fps I can get is around 60 which I assume is due to both displays be 60mhz. It maxs out at 1080p, in the 40s for 1140 and sub 30 in 4k (wasnt expecting much in the 4 department)

So would I be right in saying that if I want a higher FPS (without upgrading the rig - Going to buy new next year) that I should be looking at a FHC 1080 mhz Monitor to get an improved experience. I assume the ftx 1080 can push past 60 fps in 1080p

Is my understanding correct? Would it be a waste of money? They are not very expensive which is why I am tempted. Other option is to buy a 4k 144mhz so that when I get my new setup the monitor would be fine, although probably not a great idea given that the cost will drop.

Any advice please? Was a little disappointed in the card upgrade. Certainly not getting the improvements I thought and its the MSI 108)n gtx which I read was one of the better ones, still old technology of course.

Would getting a monitor with a better refresh be likely to enchance the experience much? Dont wan to spend the cash if its going to yield a fairly slight improvement. Currently playing Red Dead Redemption 2 which is quite resource hungry.

All advice welcome.

 

[Barty1884]

I've run various tests and the max fps I can get is around 60

If your current settings are only allowing you to push ~60FPS, then a refresh rate >60Hz isn't going to do anything for you.

That being said, a 1080 with a 1700 should be able to push >60FPS in a lot of situations.

What games are you playing? Is it exclusively RDR2? What in-game settings are you using?

 

[geofelt]

There is always a limiting factor for FPS.
The cpu,gpu or monitor.
Try this simple test:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
This makes the graphics card loaf a bit.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration or a faster monitor.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

 

[stephenlatimer7]

Thanks - Wouldnt a 60Mhz display mean that 60 FPS is the most I could get even at really lousy graphics settings?

If your current settings are only allowing you to push ~60FPS, then a refresh rate >60Hz isn't going to do anything for you.

That being said, a 1080 with a 1700 should be able to push >60FPS in a lot of situations.

What games are you playing? Is it exclusively RDR2? What in-game settings are you using?

RDR 2 mostly at the moment. GTA V i had a go at and seems to be a glitch as theres no improvement really of note. Cricket 19 runs at 60FPS in 2k. Not tried many other games. Have some others that Ive not played in a while like Hitman 2 and the Witcher.

I run usually high settings (not ultra). The benchmark on RDR2 comes out at just under 60FPS average so suspect it could go more. I turned Antialiasing down low or off.

RDR2 runs well. Its playable and looks quite decent. Prefer playing it on my tv due to the size but cant addord a 144mhz big screen! Monitor maybe. Just flirting with the idea really.

I've not overclocked anything by the way. All just factory settings

 

[stephenlatimer7]

There is always a limiting factor for FPS.
The cpu,gpu or monitor.
Try this simple test:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
This makes the graphics card loaf a bit.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration or a faster monitor.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

Wont a 60Mhz screen mean that it will not go above 60FPS? Maybe I have misunderstood. I'm sure my cricket game used to go over 60 FPS on my old 4k monitor (also 60MHs). Bit confused.

Essentially what I am asking is do Mhz equate to maximum FPS. If I could get better FPS with my setup on 1080p then it would certainly consider the purchase but if its just a tiny increase I will save my hard earned cash!

 

[nofanneeded]

lolz stop saying Mhz ... it is just hz ...

 

[geofelt]

Frame generation rate is determined by the cpu and the graphics card.
Usually measured by fraps.
Frame presentation rate is determined by the capability of the monitor.
All is nice if they both match.
But if one or the other is different, other issues like screen tearing or input latency come into play.
Monitor features like G.sync or freesync can make things match.
Here is an older article that does a nice job of explaining:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/10325/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-and-1070-founders-edition-review/13

 

[HappyTrails]

Oh RDR2 is good. Beautiful game. Try to answer, if you like 1080p and current monitor is limit to 60hz then thats all fps you'll get. If want to buy new monitor at 1080p 144hz for a good deal that would help but only if your pc is capable of higher than 60fps in rdr2. You could always change graphic settings in games to get more fps. Just made the switch here from 1080p to 1440p 170hz but only get about 90fps in rdr2 and about 70hz in cyberpunk2077 so there is some room left over. For games I playing I doubt I ever get up to 170hz just keep turning up graphic settings in game to ultra. From what I understand 1440p is the more popular but still a lot of 1080p gaming as well.

 

[Barty1884]

if you like 1080p and current monitor is limit to 60hz then thats all fps you'll get.

That's all the FPS you'll see, but if your system/settings/game are capable of more, any FPS counters etc will show more. You can certainly run 300+FPS (think CS:GO), but you'd be only see/feel 60FPS/Hz.

If, no matter what you do, you don't see >60FPS, then increasing the refresh rate (Hz) of your panel won't benefit you at all.