is Asus GTX780 DirectCU II faster than a reference R290?

[Hyedwtditpm]

I know R290 is faster than a 780 but Asus GTX 780 DirectCU II is overclocked . is this faster than a reference AMD R290?

I m going to choose between ,reference R290, Sapphire Tri-X R290 or Asus GTX 780 DirectCU II. Which one would you choose?

I'm leaning over to Sapphire Tri-x 290 . But i just can't trust AMD drivers and hardware quality.

 

[Maciek Fulton]

Personally I convert alot and edit videos and I find that paying the extra $30 is worth the CUDA rendering. I also record game-play and shadowplay helps tremendously, I almost see no lose in performance while recording game-play with my Zotac 780 AMP! And then you also have more stable drivers.

The card battle each other in benchmark, but I would say the cards are both equal in performance.
Both companies use high quality parts, so the quality from the manufactures should not be an issue.

Also if your wanting to get watchdogs, Nvidia bundles that into their cards, a nice incentive to go with them.

 

[Hyedwtditpm]

Also Zotal 780 AMP is avaible at the local store. I know Asus has quality components, but i dont know about Zotac. is that AMP version faster? Do they use high quality components like Asus?

 

[Maciek Fulton]

Also Zotal 780 AMP is avaible at the local store. I know Asus has quality components, but i dont know about Zotac. is that AMP version faster? Do they use high quality components like Asus?

Yes, both use high quality parts, The 780 amp is technically the 2nd fastest card, but the other card is not available on the market, http://www.galaxytech.com/__EN_GB__/Product2/ProductDetail?proID=472 is the fastest

The Hof card is not available so it is excluded from benchmarks but here are some benchmarks of the 780 amp!
http://img.hexus.net/v2/graphics_cards/nvidia/zotac/780AMP/ngraph-02.jpg
http://img.hexus.net/v2/graphics_cards/nvidia/zotac/780AMP/ngraph-04.jpg
http://img.hexus.net/v2/graphics_cards/nvidia/zotac/780AMP/ngraph-07.jpg

 

[Hyedwtditpm]

That card looks insanly OC'ed. . does this effect long time reliability of the card? It looks like a good buy if it is stable.

 

[Hyedwtditpm]

is there a similar solution to Shadowplay on AMD side?

 

[Maciek Fulton]

is there a similar solution to Shadowplay on AMD side?

Nothing similar to Shadow-play on AMD that's made by a real company. Not sure but http://www.radeonpro.info/2013/08/get-ready-for-new-radeonpro-infinity/ looks like something similar but I believe it only records at 30fps.

The card is completely stable and there is still room for OC, I only OCed for Benchmarks, but I was able to get a stable OC of 1210 MHz for the GPU and 1900 MHz for the video memory. Also the card comes with The splinter cell series (the 3 games) and Watchdogs, that's something only Zotac does.

As for temps, I get 24C idle and 61C gaming (Windows 8.1 w/ thor v2 case)

 

[pdasterly]

amd drivers are better than nvidia as of today. I think they would give close to equal in performance. a reference 290 with water cooling would be best bang for buck

 

[Maciek Fulton]

amd drivers are better than nvidia as of today. I think they would give close to equal in performance. a reference 290 with water cooling would be best bang for buck

"amd drivers are better than nvidia as of today" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHA that a great joke. In all seriousness unless you have a pump already it would not be worth getting a liquid cooled 290, even then there is not much headroom to OC, and a 780 could surpass the performance of a 290 liquid cooled with a 780 on air.

LinusTechTips Did something on water cooled 290 vs 780 and the 780 won.

 

[pdasterly]

maybe the 780ti but not the 780, ive owned both 2d surround and eyefinity. eyefinity is better

 

[17seconds]

Where are you getting that a " R290 is faster than a 780"?

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_780_Ti_Direct_Cu_II_OC/24.html


And for reference, the Asus DCUII OC is about 6% faster than the reference GTX 780.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_780_Direct_Cu_II_OC/26.html

 

[pdasterly]

owned lol, that one snuck in there. not worth the extra dough. personal choice

 

[Hyedwtditpm]

Does 4gb make any difference over 3gb at 1080p and 1440p?

 

[17seconds]

Does 4gb make any difference over 3gb at 1080p and 1440p?

None.

 

[Hyedwtditpm]

Where are you getting that a " R290 is faster than a 780"?

Depending on the test , R290 is about %5 faster in most cases. But your link shows a different result .

then the , Zotac 780 AMP makes sense (how much is this faster than the Asus 780 Direct CU ???)

There is also a 6gb OC edition , then this is just a marketing gimmick???

But zotac site has an interesting info .
while Zotac 780 AMP version has support for
DirectX: DirectX 11.1 (feature level 11_0)
OpenGL: OpenGL 4.3

Zotac 780 OC has a support for.
DirectX: DirectX 11.2 (feature level 11_0)
OpenGL: OpenGL 4.4

Does this has any importance ? looks like a typo , or they didnt update the site or something.

 

[Maciek Fulton]

Where are you getting that a " R290 is faster than a 780"?

Depending on the test , R290 is about %5 faster in most cases. But your link shows a different result .

then the , Zotac 780 AMP makes sense (how much is this faster than the Asus 780 Direct CU ???)

There is also a 6gb OC edition , then this is just a marketing gimmick???

But zotac site has an interesting info .
while Zotac 780 AMP version has support for
DirectX: DirectX 11.1 (feature level 11_0)
OpenGL: OpenGL 4.3

Zotac 780 OC has a support for.
DirectX: DirectX 11.2 (feature level 11_0)
OpenGL: OpenGL 4.4

Does this has any importance ? looks like a typo , or they didnt update the site or something.

I believe the AMP is only 3% faster then the Asus one. The directX thing is because the GPU box was printed with 11.1, so it remains 11.1, even thought it supports 11.2 (re-branding all the boxes is to much work), all 780s support 11.2 atm. Also Nvidia did confirm the 780 will be able to use DirectX 12 later this year or early 2015.

I still recommend the zotac amp because of its nice Cooling and it comes with splinter cell series as-well as watchdogs.

the 6gb of vram is usefull in some applications but not gaming. If you want to go 4k, and sli, then you would be able to get the full 6GB of vram, but even 6gb is to much for 4k.

 

[Rationale]

That card looks insanly OC'ed. . does this effect long time reliability of the card? It looks like a good buy if it is stable.

Well... Everything affects the lifespan. However, it's generally the difference between a card breaking in 8 years rather than 9 years. Not really relevant at all in most cases. :3

 

[Rationale]

Does 4gb make any difference over 3gb at 1080p and 1440p?

Not at all. 3GB is pretty much ideal for 1440p, even overkill for 1080p.

 

[Rationale]

amd drivers are better than nvidia as of today. I think they would give close to equal in performance. a reference 290 with water cooling would be best bang for buck

Water cooling is a lot of work just to get from 80 fps to 85 fps, LMAO.

 

[pdasterly]

water cooling is cheap now with aio coolers being adapted to fit gpu's. 5 more fps, some companies charge more than a few bucks for some cards with just a little bump in speed, ie 290 to 290x