[SOLVED] Is it okay to use these screws? I kinda messed up

[sheikaawangga78]

I used the psu screw to screw my mobo and im worried to screw it backout it makes these clicking sound oh and i've search about"the wrong screws" they said that its ok if it does not mess with the rings. By rings what do they mean (this is my first ever build)

 

[clutchc]

How hard was it to thread the screws into the standoffs? Sounds like the standoffs weren't the same thread as the PSU screws (usually 6-32 in the US). If you forced the wrong screws into the standoffs, that is why you can't back them out, and why they make the clicking noise. On top of that, the threads in the standoffs would be destroyed for matching up with the correct screws. Might be best to just leave the screws in if that is the case.

On the otherhand, if you want to back them out, try putting your fingernail under the screw head and force it up as you unscrew. Might re-thread its way back out. If the correct screws then don't thread back in, you may have to buy new standoffs to match your case's threads and the original standoff's height.

 

[sheikaawangga78]

How hard was it to thread the screws into the standoffs? Sounds like the standoffs weren't the same thread as the PSU screws (usually 6-32 in the US). If you forced the wrong screws into the standoffs, that is why you can't back them out, and why they make the clicking noise. On top of that, the threads in the standoffs would be destroyed for matching up with the correct screws. Might be best to just leave the screws in if that is the case.

On the otherhand, if you want to back them out, try putting your fingernail under the screw head and force it up as you unscrew. Might re-thread its way back out. If the correct screws then don't thread back in, you may have to buy new standoffs to match your case's threads and the original standoff's height.

it was actually really easy screwing it in. but after i saw video that it was not the screws i tried taking it out and it makes this clicking sound and wont come out. and in the video it said "RINGS" im afraid that i damage them with the wrongs screws.

and this was my first time building, and my friend said to screw in on all of the standoffs. is it ok? and he said just to make it wont move.

 

[clutchc]

How hard was it to thread the screws into the standoffs? Sounds like the standoffs weren't the same thread as the PSU screws (usually 6-32 in the US). If you forced the wrong screws into the standoffs, that is why you can't back them out, and why they make the clicking noise. On top of that, the threads in the standoffs would be destroyed for matching up with the correct screws. Might be best to just leave the screws in if that is the case.

On the otherhand, if you want to back them out, try putting your fingernail under the screw head and force it up as you unscrew. Might re-thread its way back out. If the correct screws then don't thread back in, you may have to buy new standoffs to match your case's threads and the original standoff's height.

it was actually really easy screwing it in. but after i saw video that it was not the screws i tried taking it out and it makes this clicking sound and wont come out. and in the video it said "RINGS" im afraid that i damage them with the wrongs screws.

and this was my first time building, and my friend said to screw in on all of the standoffs. is it ok? and he said just to make it wont move.

First, let's address the standoffs. NEVER add any extra standoffs that are not inline with a mounting hole on the motherboard. You will chance the unused standoff shorting out/grounding out one or more of the solder traces on the back of the board. Cases come with standoff locations for several sizes of motherboards. ITX, mATX, ATX... And not all motherboards use all the available hole positions for mounting.

Which motherboard do you have? Which case?

As to the incorrect screws, it might be imperative to try to get them out so you can remove any unneeded standoffs if you think you added too many. If you have the same trouble backing out the rest of the screws, and the above fingernail trick isn't working, you might try gently prying up the board near the screw with the tip of a screwdriver as you unscrew. Basically, you are trying to get the screw's thread to re-engage with the standoff threads so it will work its way back out. Just don't pry up more than enough to get the screw to start. You might crack the board.
As a last resort, you may want to take the PC to a shop that handles computers.

In reference to the term "rings", I'm not sure what that was referring to. Possibly they meant the grounding ring around each mounting hole. That is there to case ground the motherboard electrically.

Lastly, if all is working fine now, and you can't get the screws out, it may be safest to just live with it as it is and enjoy the build.

 

[sheikaawangga78]

How hard was it to thread the screws into the standoffs? Sounds like the standoffs weren't the same thread as the PSU screws (usually 6-32 in the US). If you forced the wrong screws into the standoffs, that is why you can't back them out, and why they make the clicking noise. On top of that, the threads in the standoffs would be destroyed for matching up with the correct screws. Might be best to just leave the screws in if that is the case.

On the otherhand, if you want to back them out, try putting your fingernail under the screw head and force it up as you unscrew. Might re-thread its way back out. If the correct screws then don't thread back in, you may have to buy new standoffs to match your case's threads and the original standoff's height.

it was actually really easy screwing it in. but after i saw video that it was not the screws i tried taking it out and it makes this clicking sound and wont come out. and in the video it said "RINGS" im afraid that i damage them with the wrongs screws.

and this was my first time building, and my friend said to screw in on all of the standoffs. is it ok? and he said just to make it wont move.

First, let's address the standoffs. NEVER add any extra standoffs that are not inline with a mounting hole on the motherboard. You will chance the unused standoff shorting out/grounding out one or more of the solder traces on the back of the board. Cases come with standoff locations for several sizes of motherboards. ITX, mATX, ATX... And not all motherboards use all the available hole positions for mounting.

Which motherboard do you have? Which case?

As to the incorrect screws, it might be imperative to try to get them out so you can remove any unneeded standoffs if you think you added too many. If you have the same trouble backing out the rest of the screws, and the above fingernail trick isn't working, you might try gently prying up the board near the screw with the tip of a screwdriver as you unscrew. Basically, you are trying to get the screw's thread to re-engage with the standoff threads so it will work its way back out.
you may want to take the PC to a shop that handles computers.

As to the term "rings", I'm not sure what that was referring to.

Still cant. The problem is not that the screw doesnt come off, the standoff turn when im unscrewing so im not unscrewing a screw but im unscrewing a standoff so i need something tiny to hold it in place.
Ive tried using my hand it wont work.

And as for additonal standoffs there was no additional i didnt add any, the case im using is nox forte micro atx case, there is this one standoff that doest know why its there but it on the bottom of the mother board.

 

[Eximo]

Rings refers to threads. Not sure why anyone would call them rings, they are not. A spiral/inclined plane around a center point.

If you put a too small screw in a hole for a larger thread, not much harm done likely. If you put a large screw in a smaller threaded hole, probably ruined.

Since you said it was easy, they probably just need to be removed. The clicking is likely the repetitive action of the screws falling off the larger thread. Since you are applying some pressure/weight with the screw you are forcing it back down. The advice to put a fingernail (or a flathead screwdriver) under the head of the screw while turning it is good advice, should keep it from slipping back down.

If you have ruined the threads, it should be fairly easy to find you some replacement standoffs. There are many kits out there with many sizes, but with exact models you can sometimes get them from the manufacturer's site or find the exact parts on places like ebay or amazon.

 

[sheikaawangga78]

Rings refers to threads. Not sure why anyone would call them rings, they are not. A spiral/inclined plane around a center point.

If you put a too small screw in a hole for a larger thread, not much harm done likely. If you put a large screw in a smaller threaded hole, probably ruined.

Since you said it was easy, they probably just need to be removed. The clicking is likely the repetitive action of the screws falling off the larger thread. Since you are applying some pressure/weight with the screw you are forcing it back down. The advice to put a fingernail (or a flathead screwdriver) under the head of the screw while turning it is good advice, should keep it from slipping back down.

If you have ruined the threads, it should be fairly easy to find you some replacement standoffs. There are many kits out there with many sizes, but with exact models you can sometimes get them from the manufacturer's site or find the exact parts on places like ebay or amazon.

Idk but the rings they meant was the the hole ffs if u see the hole for the screw the thing surrounding it its like there is this dots if scratch that with a wrong screw size am i screwed?

 

[clutchc]

+1^
That's what I meant in my feeble explanation above...
They are meant to be "scratched".

 

[Eximo]

Ah the grounding points. Usually just exposed solder which is quite soft and they will get scratched up. The idea there is to make an electrical connection for safety so you want the screw to dig into it a little bit. There shouldn't be any screws included with a computer with heads large enough to damage anything on the motherboard. Any screws that big would be fairly obvious to be for something else, like the case feet or something.

Grounding: Proper setup would be power plug to the wall, three prong power all the way, power supply screwed to metal chassis, standoffs to chassis, standoffs to motherboard, and screws to motherboard/standoff. That way all the grounds are equal and if any voltage makes it on to the ground plane it won't shock you when touched, as the path to ground will be much lower resistance then you. Also helps reduce electrical noise in the board if everything is well connected.