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Since I am a new user of samsung 980 pro, I googled about history of any reported issues on the 980 pro. There were wide spread SLC cache issues that must have been famous on this board. Which seems to be resolved by now with the latest firmware, and the affected drives were still writing 4 figure sequential speed which I wouldn't even have noticed without benchmarking it.

Then there were 870 EVO early failure reports - this I don't see any confirmation that the problem is gone.

Then there were 960 PRO bad firmware issues.. which sucked because 960 PRO costed arms and legs of retail buyers back then.

Then there was the famous 840 EVO slowdown saga. Which is never addressed other than their continuous rewriting trick by new firmware.

It is amazing that Samsung SSDs are still considered the most reliable. Perhaps all the other SSDs are even worse?
 
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Pextaxmx said:
Since I am a new user of samsung 980 pro, I googled about history of any reported issues on the 980 pro. There were wide spread SLC cache issues that must have been famous on this board. Which seems to be resolved by now with the latest firmware, and the affected drives were still writing 4 figure sequential speed which I wouldn't even have noticed without benchmarking it.

Then there were 870 EVO early failure reports - this I don't see any confirmation that the problem is gone.

Then there were 960 PRO bad firmware issues.. which sucked because 960 PRO costed arms and legs of retail buyers back then.

Then there was the famous 840 EVO slowdown saga. Which is never addressed other than their continuous rewriting trick by new firmware.

It is amazing that Samsung SSDs are still considered the most reliable. Perhaps all the other SSDs are even worse?
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All SSDs have own weaknesses and positives but Samsung seems to be best still. Pro series is most reliable and one to avoid is 980 EVO.
 
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He meant this one I assume

Samsung’s 980 also stands out with much more affordable pricing than the 980 Pro and 970 Evo Plus, a benefit borne of its DRAMless design that the company claims makes it the highest-performing DRAMless SSD on the market.
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https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-980-m2-nvme-ssd-review

Some places mark it as the 980 Evo (example) but the code in that link leads to the 980 - https://www.samsung.com/sg/memory-storage/nvme-ssd/980-500gb-nvme-pcie-gen-3-mz-v8v500bw/
 
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Well, being dramless really is not a defect. As long as it is up to spec without any issues, it's just a matter of choice.
I am questioning whether Samsung really deserves this kind of reputation and the premium consumers are paying based on that reputation..
 
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Pextaxmx said:
I am questioning whether Samsung really deserves this kind of reputation and the premium consumers are paying based on that reputation..
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Puget has published a graph of this, 2019-2021
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/hardware-reliability-puget-systems-2021
""over the entire history of Samsung SSDs in our records, we have sold over 35,000 drives and had less than 100 of those fail." "

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Here at Puget Systems, our goal is not only to provide the fastest workstations possible, but the most reliable as well. As a part of our constant drive to offer only the highest quality components possible, we track and regularly review the failure rates for each part we carry. Today, we want...
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"Simply put, even though we sell thousands of Samsung drives every year, we only ever have a handful that gives us any problems during our production process. "
 
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Pextaxmx said:
Well, being dramless really is not a defect. As long as it is up to spec without any issues, it's just a matter of choice.
I am questioning whether Samsung really deserves this kind of reputation and the premium consumers are paying based on that reputation..
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Samsung has a rock solid reputation as a company. Period. They make fantastic appliances, TVs, electronics, phones and all kinds of computer stuff as you well know. this explains the respect they are given.
 
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Pextaxmx said:
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/p8bw01/samsung_970_evo_plus_slow_write_speed_slc_cache/


this issue seems widespread as well. Same issue as the 980 PRO cache not flushing. Difference is Samsung won't release a fix for 970 plus. I wonder if it is related to their Elpis controller (970 Evo Plus comes with Elpis controller since last year)
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My 970 evo plus is working at full speed even with original FW and there's and upgrade for it. Not gonna mess with something that works fine.
 
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My 1TB 960 Evo died after 5 years of service. I have several other Samsung SATA drives still going though.

White goods failure rate is industry wide. They have no reason to make products that can last as long as their price would suggest.
 
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CountMike said:
Just usual warranty period + a day.
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Closer to a few weeks, but yes. One minute gaming, then a hard crash. On reboot, no boot device found. I could still get the drive to show up in the BIOS from time to time, but is often not there after a reboot. It was relatively lightly used all things considered so I am a little disappointed, but I wanted to move to a 2TB disk anyway, so it all worked out.
 
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Eximo said:
Closer to a few weeks, but yes. One minute gaming, then a hard crash. On reboot, no boot device found. I could still get the drive to show up in the BIOS from time to time, but is often not there after a reboot. It was relatively lightly used all things considered so I am a little disappointed, but I wanted to move to a 2TB disk anyway, so it all worked out.
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My SanDisk died at 33 days past the 3 year warranty.
SanDisk replaced it anyway.
 
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From engineering point of view, making a product that lasts well beyond the warranty is an easy engineering. You just throw money at it and problems are gone (except lower corporate profit margin)
Product breaking right after the warranty period? Samsung must be doing some serious engineering.
 
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Pextaxmx said:
From engineering point of view, making a product that lasts well beyond the warranty is an easy engineering. You just throw money at it and problems are gone (except lower corporate profit margin)
Product breaking right after the warranty period? Samsung must be doing some serious engineering.
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It would be enough to program FW to stop operations after a certain time used or number of writes. No need for any "serious engineering" although I doubt they would do that.
I would put this as more important
www.repair.org

Learn About the Right to Repair — The Repair Association

We stand on the shoulders of movements who have been fighting for working people for generations, and that's why we are proud to pick up the fight to protect repair rights and the definition of ownership in the 21st century. Get involved today.
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CountMike said:
It would be enough to program FW to stop operations after a certain time used or number of writes. No need for any "serious engineering" although I doubt they would do that.
I would put this as more important
www.repair.org

Learn About the Right to Repair — The Repair Association

We stand on the shoulders of movements who have been fighting for working people for generations, and that's why we are proud to pick up the fight to protect repair rights and the definition of ownership in the 21st century. Get involved today.
www.repair.org www.repair.org
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I was exaggerating about the corporates cost reduction efforts. After launching a product, every new revision always reflect some sort of cost reduction measure. Whoever achieves significant cost reduction, gets bigger paycheck. There are strong motivations :)
 
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