Is it true that per-core performance is important for high end gaming?

[MostWantedSoulRider]

Should the fact become true, can I purchase a better AMD processor?

The reasons that let me chose AMD Processor:

1 - I use M5A99FX Pro R 2.0 which has AM3+ Socket.

2 - Price

I'm already using AMD FX 6300 with R9 270X. I can see FPS slightly drops at very few views like looking at the bright sun, seeing a bunch of plants sprouted over the rocks in Hitman Absolution. I'm expecting a perfection in it. Can I go with FX 8320 from which I believe the above mentioned issue can be put to an end?

 

[MostWantedSoulRider]

3. Well going to a 3th gen i3 would maybe help with some games, but in games like BF4 it would actually be a downgrade.

So its better to go with overclocking this fx 6300. And one more thing; if I buy cooler master hyper 212 evo, should I remove the old one and install this new fan? I wanted to know this cause just like overclocking concept, I need help in this part too.

 

[Rationale]

Well, considering an i3 outperforms an FX-6300 in most games... I'd say core per core performance matters a lot.

However, you'd get better performance for the cost from overclocking your FX-6300 than you would from switching to an FX-8320. Most games can't use even close to 8 cores, and core per core the FX-6300 is just as fast [slow] as the FX-8320.

Oh, that's great. I have never done overclocking before, to be frankly said. Can you direct me to a tutorial web page where I can learn overclocking my fx 6300.

This should work with your setup as well.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1140459/bulldozer-overclocking-guide-performance-scaling-charts-max-ocs-ln2-results-coming

Thank you so much. I am thinking to proceed with this but still I haven't received a reply from the questions that I posted above. If you have missed them, let me post it again for you and they are as follows -

A good question.
1. The video settings are always kept @ ultra level.

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41Ca1UKEGwU
Look at this video. I have the same kind of graphic settings. But from 2:59 to 3:20, I have the issue in my computer. A slight difference in graphic performance is visible in my PC. The person who uploaded this video has intel i5 - 2500. What came to my mind is buying the same kind of processor but unfortunately, I have to change my motherboard for it as the current one has AM3+ socket.

3. Should FX 8320 upgrade cannot resolve my problem, shall I go with Intel i3 - 3210 and Asus H67 Chipset motherboard?

Note: I am really sorry if I'm confusing you a lot.

The i3-3210 is one of the slowest i3s; it would probably perform a bit better in a few games, but not in most, and your best option here is to overclock the FX-6300.

My previous comment about how i3s are faster in games was intended for fast i3s. You'd be better off overclocking the CPU you already have.

 

[Eduello]

3. Well going to a 3th gen i3 would maybe help with some games, but in games like BF4 it would actually be a downgrade.

So its better to go with overclocking this fx 6300. And one more thing; if I buy cooler master hyper 212 evo, should I remove the old one and install this new fan? I wanted to know this cause just like overclocking concept, I need help in this part too.

Yes, remove the old one, clean off all the thermal paste (q-tips + isopropyl alcohol are good for this) from the CPU (take it out of the socket) and then put it back in, apply the paste that comes with the new cooler, and follow the installation instructions in the manual of the new cooler.

 

[MostWantedSoulRider]

3. Well going to a 3th gen i3 would maybe help with some games, but in games like BF4 it would actually be a downgrade.

So its better to go with overclocking this fx 6300. And one more thing; if I buy cooler master hyper 212 evo, should I remove the old one and install this new fan? I wanted to know this cause just like overclocking concept, I need help in this part too.

Yes, remove the old one, clean off all the thermal paste (q-tips + isopropyl alcohol are good for this) from the CPU (take it out of the socket) and then put it back in, apply the paste that comes with the new cooler, and follow the installation instructions in the manual of the new cooler.

There is no thermal paste in the current setup and is the paste really necessary?

 

[Eduello]

3. Well going to a 3th gen i3 would maybe help with some games, but in games like BF4 it would actually be a downgrade.

So its better to go with overclocking this fx 6300. And one more thing; if I buy cooler master hyper 212 evo, should I remove the old one and install this new fan? I wanted to know this cause just like overclocking concept, I need help in this part too.

Yes, remove the old one, clean off all the thermal paste (q-tips + isopropyl alcohol are good for this) from the CPU (take it out of the socket) and then put it back in, apply the paste that comes with the new cooler, and follow the installation instructions in the manual of the new cooler.

There is no thermal paste in the current setup and is the paste really necessary?

Are you sure there's no thermal paste? The stock cooler has the paste pre-applied to it.

And yes, you absolutely need to use thermal paste; Otherwise the CPU will get too hot and start to throttle.

 

[MostWantedSoulRider]

3. Well going to a 3th gen i3 would maybe help with some games, but in games like BF4 it would actually be a downgrade.

So its better to go with overclocking this fx 6300. And one more thing; if I buy cooler master hyper 212 evo, should I remove the old one and install this new fan? I wanted to know this cause just like overclocking concept, I need help in this part too.

Yes, remove the old one, clean off all the thermal paste (q-tips + isopropyl alcohol are good for this) from the CPU (take it out of the socket) and then put it back in, apply the paste that comes with the new cooler, and follow the installation instructions in the manual of the new cooler.

There is no thermal paste in the current setup and is the paste really necessary?

Are you sure there's no thermal paste? The stock cooler has the paste pre-applied to it.

And yes, you absolutely need to use thermal paste; Otherwise the CPU will get too hot and start to throttle.

The shopkeeper himself helped me to build this CPU. I was just watching at him while he was working on it. He didn't apply any thermal paste. He just took all the parts and connected them.

Edit: Never knew the stock cooler has ready-made thermal paste.

 

[MostWantedSoulRider]

Well you could buy a CPU cooler like the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo and overclock the FX 6300, that might help and it would definitely be a lot cheaper.

EDIT: Seems this answer came a bit too late.

http://www.ebay.in/itm/COOLER-MASTER-Hyper-212X-CPU-Cooler-/271484527390?pt=IN_Computer_Components&hash=item3f35bd231e
It's not an EVO one but is it okay for my gaming?

 

[Eduello]

http://www.ebay.in/itm/COOLER-MASTER-Hyper-212X-CPU-Cooler-/271484527390?pt=IN_Computer_Components&hash=item3f35bd231e
It's not an EVO one but is it okay for my gaming?

Yes, it's perfectly fine.

 

[Karadjgne]

FPS drop is a common factor in every single game, no matter the platform, CPU or gpu used. It has less to do with the amount of details in any given scene, but more to do with the depth of those details. OP has a decent mid-range gpu, and running hitman:ab on ultra will more than likely be somewhere around the 60 fps or below range. Now add a sudden increase in shadows like in grass and bright sunlight and the gpu is going to take an fps hit in performance. While the CPU is responsible for a lot, a stronger gpu that would set the average fps well beyond the 60Hz refresh is the only answer hardware wise for seamless 60fps play. Software wise, the answer is easier and cheaper, turn down some of the settings for shadows etc, turn off AA and give the gpu the headroom it requires to allow for those intense graphics scenes
The fx 6300 is a very good CPU to OC, and it most definately can't hurt a game to have it run faster.

 

[MostWantedSoulRider]

FPS drop is a common factor in every single game, no matter the platform, CPU or gpu used. It has less to do with the amount of details in any given scene, but more to do with the depth of those details. OP has a decent mid-range gpu, and running hitman:ab on ultra will more than likely be somewhere around the 60 fps or below range. Now add a sudden increase in shadows like in grass and bright sunlight and the gpu is going to take an fps hit in performance. While the CPU is responsible for a lot, a stronger gpu that would set the average fps well beyond the 60Hz refresh is the only answer hardware wise for seamless 60fps play. Software wise, the answer is easier and cheaper, turn down some of the settings for shadows etc, turn off AA and give the gpu the headroom it requires to allow for those intense graphics scenes
The fx 6300 is a very good CPU to OC, and it most definately can't hurt a game to have it run faster.

But if it's OC'ed, will there be any difference with same ultra settings?

 

[sapperastro]

That depends on whether Hitman is a cpu dependent game. Some games rely heavily on the CPU, others transfer most of the load to the graphics card. Since I haven't played this game, I don't have a clue about which it is. And of course overclocking the CPU will help speed things up.

Can you notice these dips in performance? Or just see the FPS monitor dipping?

 

[MostWantedSoulRider]

That depends on whether Hitman is a cpu dependent game. Some games rely heavily on the CPU, others transfer most of the load to the graphics card. Since I haven't played this game, I don't have a clue about which it is. And of course overclocking the CPU will help speed things up.

Can you notice these dips in performance? Or just see the FPS monitor dipping?

Just FPS dipping @ few spots of a game.
Here is my PC specs:-

AMD FX 6300

M5A99FX Pro R2.0

R9 270X OC edition

550 W PSU

 

[sapperastro]

Well, if you cannot physically see the differences, don't worry about it.

If you are still concerned, try some overclocking. That chip can bust out a lot more power than the stock setting, just make sure you have a decent cooler. That motherboard is good enough for some decent overclocking.

Will overclocking sort your issues? Maybe. It certainly won't hurt things so long as you don't try overclocking too much, or do it wrong. If Hitman is more dependent on the GPU, then perhaps it will need a more powerful card to keep ULTRA settings all in the range you want them to go.

For myself, I would just turn a couple of settings down and forget about it, that is if the problem is noticeable to the eye. I tend to overclock when things actually start to get noticeable and my graphics card is getting bottlenecked badly. If you simply must have everything perfect, then try the overclock now, and if that still isn't good enough, perhaps a R9 290x is in your future 😉

 

[MostWantedSoulRider]

Well, if you cannot physically see the differences, don't worry about it.

If you are still concerned, try some overclocking. That chip can bust out a lot more power than the stock setting, just make sure you have a decent cooler. That motherboard is good enough for some decent overclocking.

Will overclocking sort your issues? Maybe. It certainly won't hurt things so long as you don't try overclocking too much, or do it wrong. If Hitman is more dependent on the GPU, then perhaps it will need a more powerful card to keep ULTRA settings all in the range you want them to go.

For myself, I would just turn a couple of settings down and forget about it, that is if the problem is noticeable to the eye. I tend to overclock when things actually start to get noticeable and my graphics card is getting bottlenecked badly. If you simply must have everything perfect, then try the overclock now, and if that still isn't good enough, perhaps a R9 290x is in your future 😉

First of all, thank you for understanding my concern. I've decided to overclock this processor. I've ordered Cooler Master Hyper 212X from Ebay. I need to wait till it arrives. In the meantime, I'm really scared to overclock. I've never done this before and hence trying to learn everything from youtube. But it still scares me as everyone says to keep an eye on voltage supply. Can you please suggest me the parameters for each one?

I'm using AMD FX 6300 and Asus M5A99FX Pro R 2.0.

Edit: I'm not thinking to upgrade this graphic card as I'm getting everything I need from this one itself. "That chip can bust out a lot more power than the stock setting" You really gave me a boost in my brain after this 😀