[SOLVED] IS it worth upgrading my A8-5500 to a A10-6800K for a GTX 1050?

[nospecgamer]

I mean honestly, this A8-5500 APU is complete trash, I had this since 2012, been using I for school work and bit of none-demanding gaming. Such as playing, "Paladins and TF2". But now i'm getting into CSGO, Overwatch, and some Triple A games like Star Wars Battlefront 2. That Radeon 7560D intergrated graphics is just a no no for those games. I'm no where near trying to build a new system with my budget being under $1000. I found a few FM2 socket CPU's and APU'S that fit on my ASUS f2a85-m motherboard. My power supply is also 300w, so I think upgrading both the GPU and APU but go over the power supplies limit, especially how the A8 APU used to be 65w and now the A10 is 100w+ the GTX 1050 ti which might be over the PSU wattage. So, is it worth upgrading or should I save up for maybe a budget Ryzen 2400g+ GT 1030 build?

 

[Obakasama]

Even if you don't upgrade the A8-5500 the GTX 1050 will help a bit. It's hard to recommend upgrading the CPU because the difference would be fairly minimal.

But a more comprehensive upgrade will be CPU, motherboard and RAM. It can be done for under $1000, so it really depends on whether you feel it would be worthwhile doing so.

 

[King_V]

It is not worth upgrading the old FM2 platform.

At this point, I wouldn't recommend spending ANY money whatsoever on RAM, motherboards, or CPUs for AMD platforms that are pre-Ryzen.

If going to a Ryzen 2400g, you could always see how happy you are with the integrated graphics before deciding on whether to purchase an add-in card. I'm not sure if adding a GT 1030 to a Ryzen 2400g is necessarily worth it.

Also note - make sure to get fast RAM. I think I recall reading another regular on these boards suggesting to grab at least DDR4-3000, though don't quote me on that.

 

[mgallo848]

Do not spend any more money into that system if gaming on it is your goal. An A10-6800K will play games like CS:Go and Fortnite just fine but AAA games like BF will eat that CPU for breakfast. Go with a new system upgrade instead.

 

[nospecgamer]

I mean, I guess the 2400g is pretty good. Because back in August, I thought that it would be a good idea to use it because for example, if my discrete card broke, I could switch to the integrated graphics without having such a big performance decrease. Or let's say, if I wanted to upgrade soon I could for now use the Vega 11 graphics. But, I also feel like I kinda want to wait for the 3rd Gen Ryzen APU's. That 3700g APU that has the performence up to a RX 570 is making me hyped. Especially the, TR 3950GX with performance for a Vega 56

 

[King_V]

I don't know where those performance estimates on the 3rd gen Ryzen APUs are coming from, but they seem really optimistic.

I'd wait until there's more than just rumors on that.

 

[nospecgamer]

So sorry for this late respond. But my family is kinda in a money issue with the lack of advertising for their self-employed job. Before I was thinking of building a computer but now I think it isn't the right time. So, maybe adding a Rx 560 or 1050 would be the choice. All I need to know is that if they would be bottlenecked and if there's going to be heavy stutters. Im afraid to say the my budget just went down to the max, which is $210. I'd like to also know what graphics card model uses less power (I mean by like ex. ASUS ROG RX 560 OC has more wattage usage than MSI Aero RX 560 (non-OC) My Pre-built only has a 300w PSU

 

[mgallo848]

If it's in your budget, look for the 1050ti. I would also see if you can swing a GTX 1060. Even though your CPU can't make full use of those cards it isn't going to hurt anything and at least when you are ready to upgrade the CPU and motherboard you will already have a decent video card. Good luck

 

[nospecgamer]

I wasn't looking for something over the 2 Cards I mentioned because apparently they don't really bottleneck but it lags a lot because of the low powered APU. So i'd still want to know if either those RX 560 or GTX 1050 cards will be bottlenecked.

 

[mgallo848]

I don't think you're using the word bottleneck correctly. You could put a GTX 1080 in there and it will perform the same as a lesser card because of the CPU. Even if you put a overpowered video card in there it will not cause lag. If you buy a low-end video card now all you're going to do is end up replacing it sooner than later anyway

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Amd ryzen 3 2200g or ryzen 3 1200 with a gtx 1050 does everything you need. I have a gtx1050 and ryzen 3 1200, paired with 8 gb of ddr4. It runs tf2 maxed
Out at 1080p at 150fps. It runs fortnite medium 1080p around 50-60fps

 

[NightHawkRMX]

You could put nearly any modern video card and see more performance. There is a point (say using a rtx 2080ti) where you will see diminishing return from a cheaper card., due to you cpu being a limiting factor. You could put an rx560 or gtx 1050 ti with that and have a good system. Ideally You would want a newer cpu, something am4 or newer intel, however your older a8 will work, just not optimum. Upgrading your cpu to an a10 would not be worth it, as you could spend that money on a newer cpu.

 

[nospecgamer]

Hm. I guess I need to research more about computer phrases. I saw some people benchmark GTA 5 with the A8-5500 and 1050 ti and they mentioned how it was laggy. I was definitely seeing huge stutter. Soo, this is getting me very confused if the APU is able to handle the 1050 or RX 560. I'm sorry to all the (I want you to have better performance people) But, no I can't NOT go with a GTX 1050 ti. It's over my budget even with Low-Profile cards. All I need to know is if the RX 560 (I'm kinda am leaning to the 560 because you know, more VRAM) will be performance cut or something like that. I can't spend money on a new PC or a new mobo, CPU, PSU. Boxing Day sales are running out and I gotta take this opportunity. I also, need to know if a 300w PSU is just enough for a RX 560 and which consumer brand RX 560 is the best low powered card. No, OC editions probably gonna blow when I plug it in. Please and Thank you.

 

[Obakasama]

Effectively any CPU can work with any graphics cards (assuming correct physical connections). However, the combination of the CPU and graphics card may not be well balanced. For example, I could take the cheapest CPU and pair it with the most expensive graphics card. It's possible, but generally a waste because I'm not getting the best out of the graphics card.

As for the power supply side. It's risky. The RX 560 requires a minimum of 450W according to AMD: https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/radeon-rx-560
A good power supply may handle the load well even if it's below the minimum recommended requirement. I would be wary of a pre-built's power supply though.

Going back to your original post, the problem with the A8-5500 for newer games is it will struggle. Even at its best (with a discrete graphics card) it will still struggle (though better performance). Essentially when gaming on a budget (x4 760k and GTX 750 ti for many years) it's about managing expectations as much as the games themselves.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

THe rx460 can likely run on a lowwer wattage but quality psu. The reason gta was laggy is the fact that that geme likes a strong cpu to function. That wont happen in all games. you could use a 460 and be decent in most games.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

My gtx 1050 (nonti) and entry-level ryzen runs GTA 5 in 1080p higher settings very well. My CPU is not fully utilized most times since my GPU is maxing out first, meaning you could run it on a weaker cpu. According to this article, the perfect gpu for that cpu would be a 750ti 2gb.http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2898892/5500-botleneck-gtx750.html
You can find this quality EVGA card used for around 75 dollars us.https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-Geforce-GTX-750ti/264103399794?hash=item3d7dca1172:gimg%20data-src= heres one that doesnt require any power connectors for 80 dollars us from new york (i would avoid fishy china listings)
You can get a refurbished 1050 that uses less power (still no connectors) for 100usd that wouldnt give u much performance over the 750ti right now but with a newer cpu u would see more fps.https://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-NVIDIA-GTX-1050-2GB-OC-WINDFORCE-Graphics-Card-With-Box/113493362100?hash=item1a6cbb45b4:g:HgwAAOSwHAxcJDbB:sc:USPSPriority!17225!US!-1

 

[nospecgamer]

I mean now that i'm looking at the average of people sticking with A8-5500 and going with modern graphics cards are pretty low. Many forums state that it's best to upgrade the system or build one. I think it's best to actually build a new PC. I will have to wait a while for this because of Canadian Hardware Prices. I have a Laptop with GT940MX that can handle Warframe, CSGO, Overwatch, and GTA 5 (Which I don't have, I got this according from Online results), all at medium settings with like 40-50 FPS. It certainly cannot handle Star Wars Battlefront 2, which is one of the less demanding triple A games out there. Which means I can't run anything else besides from DOOM. I was thinking to build a PC, but then I saw a few computers up on Best Buy and Canada Computers (I know they are Pre-Builts but they're technically Custom) Best Buy: https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/cyberpowerpc-gaming-pc-amd-fx-6300-1tb-hdd-8gb-ram-amd-radeon-rx-560-windows-10-english/12910449.aspx?
Canada Computers 2: https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=7_1203_1446_1448&item_id=125872
https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=7_1203_1446_1448&item_id=130461
I don't understand why Canada Computers never restocks their Ready-to-Go PC's. When they have millions of Computer Parts like a Ryzen Threadripper. For the CC one's I might have to wait. But, the 2600 and 1060 build is ONLY around $860 CAD. That's a DEAL! Also, try making a (Canadian Dollar) PC for around $800 to $999, with a good Case I can't stand those old cases with huge Hard Drive bay's that stab me.

 

[Obakasama]

The Ryzen build there is good for the discounted price. Avoid the FX build, it won't be very good at single thread type games (relies on high clockspeeds, or IPC specifically).

 

[NightHawkRMX]

I cant delete this so ignor this.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Here is an entire system for $265 including a 120gb SSD, 450 watt 80+ Bronze PSU, Ryzen 3 2200g 4c/4t @3.5ghz with built-in Vega 10 graphics, 8gb 3200mhz ram, and a B350 motherboard with support for overclocking and support for dual NVME m.2 ssd. All you would need to do is use your old case. The built-in graphics are very powerful, getting over 60fps in csgo @1080p max settings.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Here is an all out version of the same build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dfTVXP
[PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dfTVXP) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dfTVXP/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RkJtt6/amd-ryzen-3-2200g-35ghz-quad-core-processor-yd2200c5fbbox) | $93.99 @ SuperBiiz
**Motherboard** | [ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yBtWGX/asrock-ab350-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350-pro4) | $65.03 @ OutletPC
**Memory** | [Team - Night Hawk RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MYs8TW/team-night-hawk-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tf1d416g3200hc16cdc01) | $124.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ft8j4D/crucial-mx500-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-ct500mx500ssd1) | $67.99 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbL7YJ/seagate-barracuda-2tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm006) | $59.89 @ OutletPC
**Case** | [NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p8x2FT/nzxt-h500-black-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h500b-b1) | $69.99 @ B&H
**Power Supply** | [EVGA - BT 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GQX2FT/evga-bt-450w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-100-bt-0450-k1) | $24.99 @ Amazon
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $526.87
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| **Total** | **$506.87**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2018-12-29 15:14 EST-0500 |
This build has the same CPU, 16gb of 3200mhz rgb ram, 500gb ssd, 2tb hdd, NZXT h500 Case, the same motherboard and psu.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Here is the same system as above but with an rx570 4gb gpu
[PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FrkR8Y) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FrkR8Y/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RkJtt6/amd-ryzen-3-2200g-35ghz-quad-core-processor-yd2200c5fbbox) | $93.99 @ SuperBiiz
**Motherboard** | [ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yBtWGX/asrock-ab350-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350-pro4) | $65.03 @ OutletPC
**Memory** | [Team - Night Hawk RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MYs8TW/team-night-hawk-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tf1d416g3200hc16cdc01) | $124.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ft8j4D/crucial-mx500-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-ct500mx500ssd1) | $67.99 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbL7YJ/seagate-barracuda-2tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm006) | $59.89 @ OutletPC
**Video Card** | [Sapphire - Radeon RX 570 4 GB NITRO+ Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jgWrxr/sapphire-radeon-rx-570-4gb-nitro-video-card-11266-14-20g) | $139.99 @ Newegg
**Case** | [NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p8x2FT/nzxt-h500-black-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h500b-b1) | $69.99 @ B&H
**Power Supply** | [EVGA - BT 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GQX2FT/evga-bt-450w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-100-bt-0450-k1) | $24.99 @ Amazon
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $666.86
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| **Total** | **$646.86**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2018-12-29 15:26 EST-0500 |

 

[Obakasama]

Here is an entire system for $265 including a 120gb SSD, 450 watt 80+ Bronze PSU, Ryzen 3 2200g 4c/4t @3.5ghz with built-in Vega 10 graphics, 8gb 3200mhz ram, and a B350 motherboard with support for overclocking and support for dual NVME m.2 ssd. All you would need to do is use your old case. The built-in graphics are very powerful, getting over 60fps in csgo @1080p max settings.

Careful on the M.2 SSD part if referring to ASRock's AB350 Pro4. It can only support one NVMe SSD (shares other PCIe slot) and one M.2 SSD (shares one of the SATA ports). And depending on release, it may need the BIOS updated before the 2200G can be used with it.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Here is an entire system for $265 including a 120gb SSD, 450 watt 80+ Bronze PSU, Ryzen 3 2200g 4c/4t @3.5ghz with built-in Vega 10 graphics, 8gb 3200mhz ram, and a B350 motherboard with support for overclocking and support for dual NVME m.2 ssd. All you would need to do is use your old case. The built-in graphics are very powerful, getting over 60fps in csgo @1080p max settings.

Careful on the M.2 SSD part if referring to ASRock's AB350 Pro4. It can only support one NVMe SSD (shares other PCIe slot) and one M.2 SSD (shares one of the SATA ports). And depending on release, it may need the BIOS updated before the 2200G can be used with it.

Thanks for pointing that out. If you buy that mobo new it likely will ship with newer bios that support 2000 series APUS.

 

[nospecgamer]

Turns out that the GTX 1050 can work in my computer just find without crashes. I search deeply and found many results, I was mostly worried about the power supply which turns out to be a 350w 12v+ Rail PSU. Not a 300w, so it could definitely run a 1050, that has not connector. It's only 75w unlike the RX 560, and by now i'm pretty sure it isn't bottlenecked. Shoutouts to Delfin Games for benchmarking all his graphics cards on the A8-5500. Cards like the GTX 460 and the R9 270x, both are high powered cards back then. The A8-5500 seems to run them fine in less CPU intensive games. Meaning that if the GTX 1050 is in between these beasts (I think), then it should run fairly well, and GTA 5 and Star Wars Battlefront 2 are fine on the APU, he showed those benchmarks on the games with the intergated HD 7560, with no stutter just low frames. I'm actually fine with playing games at lower resolutions or lower framerates. I'm here to make sure I don't play with 30 FPS with Undertale Graphics. I got a 75 HZ Gaming Monitor so I shouldn't need a 1050 ti nor a RX 560 4 GB. Just need a stale 1050 to play at High Settings with 60 FPS average. Thanks for all your Part Picker lists, those are saved for the future-proof. Any other recommendations about PCPartPicker or my upgrades are allowed.