[SOLVED] Is it worth upgrading to a GTX 1050 ?

[Azriel0000]

I have a gtx 750 ti and i think i want to upgrade it to a gtx 1050 2gb .it is worth it or should i just saving for a better one. I also have amd fx 6100 cpu will it bottleneck it?

 

[logainofhades]

After i read all of the reply i think im gonna build a new pc with am4 cpu motherboard ddr4 ram with a new psu
Do you have any suggestion for all of that that doesn't too crazy expensive?

AM4 is basically dead, so I would recommend Intel 12th gen, at this time. If you absolutely insist on AMD, then you may want to wait until their cheaper models come out. Either way, you will get a massive upgrade, though.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-5700X-Ryzen-5-5600-5500-4600G-4500-4100


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($208.90 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX GTE V2 64.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team T-FORCE DARK Za 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($52.41 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.56 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($11.49 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($11.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $683.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-03-17 07:27 EDT-0400

 

[KyaraM]

After i read all of the reply i think im gonna build a new pc with am4 cpu motherboard ddr4 ram with a new psu
Do you have any suggestion for all of that that doesn't too crazy expensive?

Something like this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sNFBbK
Please note that I didn't choose a case since that's a matter of preference.

With the CPU, you can postpone getting a new GPU for a bit longer since it got an integrated GPU, and hope that prices drop further. It won't be great, but it should be good enough for now. If you are unsure about the BIOS update mentioned, and not sure what to do, you can also use a 5600X with your old GPU. Why does it absolutely have to be AMD, btw? Intel options are currently cheaper and AM4 is at the end of its life, too.

 

[Azriel0000]

AM4 is basically dead, so I would recommend Intel 12th gen, at this time. If you absolutely insist on AMD, then you may want to wait until their cheaper models come out. Either way, you will get a massive upgrade, though.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-5700X-Ryzen-5-5600-5500-4600G-4500-4100


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($208.90 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX GTE V2 64.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team T-FORCE DARK Za 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($52.41 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.56 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($11.49 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan ($11.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $683.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-03-17 07:27 EDT-0400

Thanks for listing all that. 600$ will take a while to save but its okay i guess

 

[Azriel0000]

Something like this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sNFBbK
Please note that I didn't choose a case since that's a matter of preference.

With the CPU, you can postpone getting a new GPU for a bit longer since it got an integrated GPU, and hope that prices drop further. It won't be great, but it should be good enough for now. If you are unsure about the BIOS update mentioned, and not sure what to do, you can also use a 5600X with your old GPU. Why does it absolutely have to be AMD, btw? Intel options are currently cheaper and AM4 is at the end of its life, too.

Im new to pc around half a year ago. My pc still using am3+ and because that i think am4 still new cause i see a lot of people using it. And i dont know anything about intel their i5 gen and other thing. Guess im too far back.

 

[KyaraM]

Im new to pc around half a year ago. My pc still using am3+ and because that i think am4 still new cause i see a lot of people using it. And i dont know anything about intel their i5 gen and other thing. Guess im too far back.

AM4 is the current AMD socket, yes. However, it's over 5 years old by now and the current series of Ryzen chips, the 5000 series, is essentially the last to come for it. There will be one high-end and some low-end models coming out next month (iirc), but that's it. We don't know yet how they will perform, either. The next AMD generation will use AM5, no more AM4 chips after next month, the socket is at the end of its lifecycle. Also, the cheapest current AMD chips are still overpriced compared to similar Intel chips while being weaker, and with the new, cheaper Intel boards out now, the lower price of AMD boards isn't really an argument anymore.

Meanwhile, the Intel chips released end of last year for the highend chips, this year for the low-end, and will share their boards with the 13th gen of Intel as well. They beat AMD both in gaming performance and price and hold their own in other applications fairly well, too, while being only slightly less energy efficient. However, I certainly won't complain about a high-end CPU that draws only around 60W in games. That's frankly silly. And the low-end segment is even more frugal, so no worries there...

 

[Azriel0000]

AM4 is the current AMD socket, yes. However, it's over 5 years old by now and the current series of Ryzen chips, the 5000 series, is essentially the last to come for it. There will be one high-end and some low-end models coming out next month (iirc), but that's it. We don't know yet how they will perform, either. The next AMD generation will use AM5, no more AM4 chips after next month, the socket is at the end of its lifecycle. Also, the cheapest current AMD chips are still overpriced compared to similar Intel chips while being weaker, and with the new, cheaper Intel boards out now, the lower price of AMD boards isn't really an argument anymore.

Meanwhile, the Intel chips released end of last year for the highend chips, this year for the low-end, and will share their boards with the 13th gen of Intel as well. They beat AMD both in gaming performance and price and hold their own in other applications fairly well, too, while being only slightly less energy efficient. However, I certainly won't complain about a high-end CPU that draws only around 60W in games. That's frankly silly. And the low-end segment is even more frugal, so no worries there...

Thanks for that information.so since amd will be releasing am5 should i wait for that or using the i5 12th intel

 

[jacob249358]

After i read all of the reply i think im gonna build a new pc with am4 cpu motherboard ddr4 ram with a new psu
Do you have any suggestion for all of that that doesn't too crazy expensive?

What country are you located in?

 

[logainofhades]

Thanks for that information.so since amd will be releasing am5 should i wait for that or using the i5 12th intel

AM5 might be worth waiting for, if it is going to take you awhile to save up the money to buy a new rig.

 

[InvalidError]

AM4 is basically dead, so I would recommend Intel 12th gen, at this time.

For someone who's still using an FX CPU in 2022, I doubt AM4 "being dead" is of any material concern. Any Intel platform is almost dead on arrival by that standard too since the first gen on a new socket only gets one extra CPU generation at most.

 

[logainofhades]

Yes, but you could start out with something like a 12100 now, if they ever show up in stock that is, and later on throw in a 13th gen i7/i9, as long as you buy a decent enough board. That's a wide range, and big increase, in overall core count. The i9 is supposedly going to be a 24c chip, 8 P-cores, and 16-E cores, plus the IPC gains of 13th gen. AM4, you have a hard stop at the 5950x. I think we are living in a time, of systems not lasting as long, as we have been used to. We had so much stagnation, from 2nd gen, up until at least 8th gen, that it really wasn't worth upgrading. Hence why so many held onto their 2600k's for so long.

 

[TopHatterCT]

Depends on your games, performance and quality preferences and overall system build. For me I still use a 13-yr. old i7-960/X58 system, and my main game Genshin Impact still runs off it at 60 fps low/med settings on at least a GT 1030, so I decided to get a used GTX 1050 to meet its minimum GPU requirement and improve fps on its heaviest parts.

 

[geofelt]

Buying a graphics card upgrade is not a bad thing if you play fast action games. Whatever you buy, you can carry it forward to a new platform.
To assess the relative capabilities of graphics cards, look at Tom's gpu hierarchy chart:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

To see what wattage would be appropriate for a psu, this chart is handy:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

If you buy a psu, buy only a quality unit with a 7 to 10 year warranty.
It will be a long term investment.
I have no problem overprovisioning a PSU a bit. Say by 20%.
It will allow for a stronger future graphics card upgrade.
It will run cooler and quieter.
Modern graphics cards can have high power demand spikes that need to be handled.
A PSU will only use the wattage demanded of it, regardless of it's max capability.

On the cpu issue, buy now, what you need now.
Or, at least for the next couple of years.
As a practical matter, most who upgrade will also upgrade the motherboard. The reason is that new processors perform better for the price(otherwise, why develop them?).
Today, Intel 12th gen is surprisingly good value for gamers in the I3 performance category.
I3/I5/I7 no longer designate the number of cores and hyperthreading.
Today, it is more of a level of capability.
For example, the i3-12100 compared to your fx is almost exactly twice as capable in both overall an single thread performance.

 

[Azriel0000]

After reading most of the comments i decided to just buy a new setup thanks to everyone that help me.i think ill just put my old pc in museum or something lol .

 

[InvalidError]

I have no problem overprovisioning a PSU a bit. Say by 20%.
It will allow for a stronger future graphics card upgrade.
It will run cooler and quieter.
Modern graphics cards can have high power demand spikes that need to be handled.

I wouldn't put too much faith in ATX 2.3x PSUs having much of a future-proof life except for the most massively overbuilt ones with future GPUs based on the ATX 3.0 HPWR connector requiring that PSUs be able to handle 200% peak overload and a few other things that sound crazy by 2.3x standards. Shouldn't be too much of an issue for 50-60 tier cards, might be for anything 70-up.