Is my E8400 overheating?

[randomizer]

I'm thinking the lower multi might not make much of a difference when we see FSB increase to 1800... that will allow a very high FSB overclock... if 1800 is standard then 2000 plus wont be so hard to achieve.

When is that supposed to be happening? By then Intel will have new chips on the market with 4x multis :lol:

 

[ZozZoz]

I just doesn't feel right that a 45nm chip idles at 42-43.

 

[randomizer]

I just doesn't feel right that a 45nm chip idles at 42-43.

Does it?

 

[T8RR8R]

Coretemp reads the actual chip and not just the IHS temps. Sooo many people go by what the mobo or mobo mfg software reads and those temps are not correct. If you really want to be sure of your temps try TAT or Coretemp. I have an e6400 with B2 stepping, if I go by the mobo CPU readings I get about 23c on water but if I go by coretemp or TAT I get about 30c. At stock settings on the mobo under load I never get above 32 but with coretemp I get about 40 I personally trust the higher temps because it'd suck to think that you're running at a nice load temp when you're really burning the house down.

 

[randomizer]

If you want to be sure, don't even bother to look. None of them are right.

 

[T8RR8R]

lol that's probably the truth, but the best bet is to rely on the highest reported temp just to be safe.

 

[yipsl]

Thats what you get sometimes for buying the first batch of any new product, theres almost always a problem with some graphics card makers at launch. Welcome to the cutting edge of pushed, rushed out new products to market. MrsBytch you seem suprised, this has been going on for long time now, don't be suprised anymore. O yea Dam AMD for releasing those buggy slow performing Phenoms. 😀

I guess you missed the irony in their post. Intel's largely getting a pass, at least on these forums, while AMD's getting flamed; and will still be when B3 corrects the TLB and 45nm brings higher stock clocks and better thermals.

The number of Wolfie reports regarding core temps issues is akin to the number of reports of Phenom's having a bad core 2. Neither issue has been confirmed as being due to faulty manufacturing. The Phenom core issue is likely as we know triple cores will arrive around April, and bad QA happens. Bad QA happened with the Wolfies if they have bad sensors or genuine thermal issues on one of their cores.

Without a major site like Tom's or Anandtech getting involved, none here have the money; and few have the expertise to really locate the causes of these reports. Fanboys will say it's just a software, bios or local system issue with their company but proclaim it's the end of the world for the other company's product.

Let's at least appreciate the irony in all this!

 

[T8RR8R]

I guess you missed the irony in their post. Intel's largely getting a pass, at least on these forums, while AMD's getting flamed; and will still be when B3 corrects the TLB and 45nm brings higher stock clocks and better thermals.

The number of Wolfie reports regarding core temps issues is akin to the number of reports of Phenom's having a bad core 2. Neither issue has been confirmed as being due to faulty manufacturing. The Phenom core issue is likely as we know triple cores will arrive around April, and bad QA happens. Bad QA happened with the Wolfies if they have bad sensors or genuine thermal issues on one of their cores.

Without a major site like Tom's or Anandtech getting involved, none here have the money; and few have the expertise to really locate the causes of these reports. Fanboys will say it's just a software, bios or local system issue with their company but the end of the world for the other company's product.

Let's at least appreciate the irony in all this!

I guess I'm too drunk, what are you saying?

 

[yipsl]

I guess I'm too drunk, what are you saying?

:lol:

Reports of bad AMD processors = Bad AMD!!!!

Reports of bad Intel processors = What me worry????

Someone with money and expertise should investigate all these bad reports, meaning Tom's Hardware or Anandtech.

 

[Paul_gren]

@yipsl

u clearly must be joking. why would someone investigate that?

lol

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

I guess you missed the irony in their post. Intel's largely getting a pass, at least on these forums, while AMD's getting flamed; and will still be when B3 corrects the TLB and 45nm brings higher stock clocks and better thermals.

The number of Wolfie reports regarding core temps issues is akin to the number of reports of Phenom's having a bad core 2. Neither issue has been confirmed as being due to faulty manufacturing. The Phenom core issue is likely as we know triple cores will arrive around April, and bad QA happens. Bad QA happened with the Wolfies if they have bad sensors or genuine thermal issues on one of their cores.

Without a major site like Tom's or Anandtech getting involved, none here have the money; and few have the expertise to really locate the causes of these reports. Fanboys will say it's just a software, bios or local system issue with their company but proclaim it's the end of the world for the other company's product.

Let's at least appreciate the irony in all this!

The problem I see here ypsil is that youre making too much sense. Antifanboy doesnt play in alot of these forums. You have to take a stand. Well thats just BS. Im NO fanboy, and as a consumer, if I buy a faulty part or merchandise, Ill want my money back IF I want my MONEY back, simple as that. Im not going to go into all this Joe vs Pro, one side against the other crap, as its a wasiste of time. I agree with you, any company can and DOES make mistakes. Ive worked in manufacturing, and believe me, it happens. Ive worked in QA as well, and it happens. I dont care HOW much money your business makes, it happens. Making parts for the military, it happens, not as often because their QC is higher than any except maybe NASA. So if Intel made some chips with bad sensors, but are otherwise perfectly fine (or brilliant as in this case) and someone doesnt like it and wants their money back, so what?

 

[Shadow703793]

Core 2 Quad and Duo Temperature Guide: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/221745-29-core-quad-temperature-guide

Nice you updated it.

 

[Moondrinker]

I am surprised nobody here mentioned this already--

The 8400's are known to have bad heat sensors. Heck, mine says it is 55-65C at idle as well... No biggy. It is running cooler then your apps will say.

What! are you out of your mind?!

We must only assume that the temperatures shown by the various software programs are correct or atleast plausible. If you experience high temperatures something is wrong and this is not caused by the chips heatsensor. Threat your processor with respect.

 

[Dirty_Barry]

yes.

 

[hughyhunter]

When is that supposed to be happening? By then Intel will have new chips on the market with 4x multis :lol:

What I mean by that is Nvidia is claiming that the 790i will come standard or support 1600fsb. The X48 is the same thing. So it basically means that it wont be flaky at high speeds... I hope. So if we are seeing Q9450 with 1333fsb and 8x multi (2.64ghz) then we can expect to run it at 500mhz no problem (4.0ghz) at least one would hope for such a thing... that's why I wouldnt get anything but the 790i/x48 in combination with the 45nm penryn quads.

I just doesn't feel right that a 45nm chip idles at 42-43.

mine idles at 32 in bios and right now on speedfan it's at 32... so I dont think my sensors are bad like others are.

 

[randomizer]

X48 is basically a cherry-picked X38 anyway.

 

[randomizer]

What! are you out of your mind?!

We must only assume that the temperatures shown by the various software programs are correct or atleast plausible. If you experience high temperatures something is wrong and this is not caused by the chips heatsensor. Threat your processor with respect.

I think you are out of your mind. If you experience high temperatures you should be concerned. But how do you know you are experiencing high temperatures? Are you trusting software to tell you what it thinks your CPU is running at? The only way to calibrate that software even somewhat accurately is to take your CPU up to TJunctionMax and take note of the reported temperature when the CPU shuts down. If the temperature reported is, say, 88C, but your TJunctionMax is 85C then you know to add a negative 3C offset to the reported temps. Other than doing this, theres know way to really know what the temp is (and don't forget that the temps are different in different parts of the core). Unfortunately most people are too afraid to let their CPU get so hot as to shut down.

 

[argada]

"All the other posters are ignoring the fact that the E8xxx series procs have faulty temperature sensors, OR immature BIOS that is keeping your CPU from reporting properly. I promise you, you are not reaching those temperatures. Get a digital thermometer and aim it at the bottom of the heatsink. That's the only way to truely tell your temps at the moment with the Wolfies."

Assuming the heat sink is mounted correctly. And we monitor temperature right at the base of a zalman 9500/9700. How much higher would the cores be running at compared to this reading?

 

[prinler]

I just put togeather my new pc. Asus P5Q3 and a E8400... Temps are running at 200F under full loads... seated right... thermal paste.... the works... been doing this a long time and this is the strangest thing i have ever seen. Anyone have any clue? Should i call asus or Intel?


Steve