is my pc ready for next gen-gaming??

[Sibersoibam]

Hi guys, m a newbie just sold my ps3 to assemble a new pc
Cpu: 4th gen core i5 4440
Ram: 6gb
Gpu : gtx 750 ti oc Asus 2gb

my Resolution is 1366*768

So is my pc ready for the next gen gaming..
I hope my build can play next gen games at medium-high

 

[Seif Samir]

I think so

 

[ZeroRequiem]

Hey!

- Not a bad build at all, but it's riiiiiiiiight on the edge of next-gen (means that games will start lagging in "next-next-gen").

- I would most definately recommend you to replace the Intel i5 4440 with the AMD FX 8350.

Reasons:
- Overall faster processor because it has more cores, AT FASTER SPEEDS
- You can overclock the living hell out of it and ultimately make it an i7 4770 (only if you have a very good motherboard to oc with)
- 8 cores means you are future proof if games start using 8 cores for what ever reason
- One of the best bang for your buck EVER.

I would also REALLY recommend you to replace the 750 ti with a 7870 (the best bang for your buck: SAPPHIRE 7870 OC Ghz 2GB GDDR5) or if you love NVIDIA with the bottom of your heart, a 660 ti (much more expensive + can use that money towards other components)

Reasons:
- 7870 is a bit better that the 750 i in terms of performance for a tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiny bit more
- 7870 = 660 ti
- 7870 > 750 ti

If you want to be safe, go for the 280x (best bang for your buck in terms of performance to price ratio) or you want ULTIMATE SUPERIOR RAW POWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER, CROSSFIRE YOUR 7870s / 660tis AND BASICALLY GET THE SAME FPS AS A NVIDIA GTX TITAN, in most games.

Reasons:
- 7870 CF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 280x
- 7870 CF (roughly + or - in some games) = 660 ti SLI
- 7870 CF/660ti SLI = GTX TITAN
- 7870 CF/660ti SLI = 780
- Bang for your buck ratio here is through the roof

Hope this helps! 😀

PS: PLEASE, if you want to experience next gen PLEASE, PLEASE purchase a 1080p monitor, you will LOVE the change. Also, though 6GB is very good for RAM, maybe next-gen or "next-next-gen" might need more so upgrade to 8GB. If you do video/photo editing, nowadays 12GB should be minimum, and 16GB is recommended. MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET A GOOD MOTHERBOARD IF YOU WANT TO OC YOUR 8350 WELL (I FU**ED UP HERE), AAAAAAND THAT YOU HAVE GOOD COOLING! 😀

UPDATE: IF YOU WILL PURCHASE OR ARE THINKING OF PURCHASING 2 7870s OR ANY OTHER COMBO, DEFINATELY BUY A MOTHERBOARD CAPABLE OF DUAL 16x CROSSFIRE/SLI TO EQUALLY USE BOTH GPUs AND GET THE MOST POWER OUTTA THEM 😀

A hefty amount of misinformation here.
You don't need to replace your CPU, any 4th gen i5 will outperform the FX line CPUs in gaming, not to mention the 2.5 times lower TDP in intels favour, thus generating less heat, more stable overall. Yes more cores are good, but do keep in mind the FX CPU cores are weak, their architecture is ancient compared to 4th gen intel. Also bigger clock speed does NOT translate into faster processing. It's all about efficiency.
95% of games today use 2 cores, rarely more and you wont see a sudden jump from 2 cores to 8. It wont happen in a couple of years. And by the time games start using 8 cores the FX line will be obsolete, until AMD actually comes up with something new.

To OP; Just grab 2 more gigs of RAM and later a better GPU, GTX 750Ti is a good entry level card but later on you will need something stronger. R9 280 and upwards and GTX 760 and upwards.

 

[iamlegend]

Do you also owned i5 4690k?

This is the rationale in a nutshell of why i5 is better than FX.

IPC - instructions per cycle
Game`s CPU utilization
Software optimization

*i5 have more IPC than the FX 8320 eventhough it has more cores.

* for games which utilizes 2 or more cores i5 will have the advantage for it has 4 cores and higher IPC than the FX 8320 because the remaining 4 cores will not utilize.

*Software optimization depends on the games developer and they are the ones to decide of how many core the game will utilize.

Conclusion, i5 will be better for current games.

 

[ZeroRequiem]

Hey!

- Not a bad build at all, but it's riiiiiiiiight on the edge of next-gen (means that games will start lagging in "next-next-gen").

- I would most definately recommend you to replace the Intel i5 4440 with the AMD FX 8350.

Reasons:
- Overall faster processor because it has more cores, AT FASTER SPEEDS
- You can overclock the living hell out of it and ultimately make it an i7 4770 (only if you have a very good motherboard to oc with)
- 8 cores means you are future proof if games start using 8 cores for what ever reason
- One of the best bang for your buck EVER.

I would also REALLY recommend you to replace the 750 ti with a 7870 (the best bang for your buck: SAPPHIRE 7870 OC Ghz 2GB GDDR5) or if you love NVIDIA with the bottom of your heart, a 660 ti (much more expensive + can use that money towards other components)

Reasons:
- 7870 is a bit better that the 750 i in terms of performance for a tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiny bit more
- 7870 = 660 ti
- 7870 > 750 ti

If you want to be safe, go for the 280x (best bang for your buck in terms of performance to price ratio) or you want ULTIMATE SUPERIOR RAW POWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER, CROSSFIRE YOUR 7870s / 660tis AND BASICALLY GET THE SAME FPS AS A NVIDIA GTX TITAN, in most games.

Reasons:
- 7870 CF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 280x
- 7870 CF (roughly + or - in some games) = 660 ti SLI
- 7870 CF/660ti SLI = GTX TITAN
- 7870 CF/660ti SLI = 780
- Bang for your buck ratio here is through the roof

Hope this helps! 😀

PS: PLEASE, if you want to experience next gen PLEASE, PLEASE purchase a 1080p monitor, you will LOVE the change. Also, though 6GB is very good for RAM, maybe next-gen or "next-next-gen" might need more so upgrade to 8GB. If you do video/photo editing, nowadays 12GB should be minimum, and 16GB is recommended. MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET A GOOD MOTHERBOARD IF YOU WANT TO OC YOUR 8350 WELL (I FU**ED UP HERE), AAAAAAND THAT YOU HAVE GOOD COOLING! 😀

UPDATE: IF YOU WILL PURCHASE OR ARE THINKING OF PURCHASING 2 7870s OR ANY OTHER COMBO, DEFINATELY BUY A MOTHERBOARD CAPABLE OF DUAL 16x CROSSFIRE/SLI TO EQUALLY USE BOTH GPUs AND GET THE MOST POWER OUTTA THEM 😀

A hefty amount of misinformation here.
You don't need to replace your CPU, any 4th gen i5 will outperform the FX line CPUs in gaming, not to mention the 2.5 times lower TDP in intels favour, thus generating less heat, more stable overall. Yes more cores are good, but do keep in mind the FX CPU cores are weak, their architecture is ancient compared to 4th gen intel. Also bigger clock speed does NOT translate into faster processing. It's all about efficiency.
95% of games today use 2 cores, rarely more and you wont see a sudden jump from 2 cores to 8. It wont happen in a couple of years. And by the time games start using 8 cores the FX line will be obsolete, until AMD actually comes up with something new.

To OP; Just grab 2 more gigs of RAM and later a better GPU, GTX 750Ti is a good entry level card but later on you will need something stronger. R9 280 and upwards and GTX 760 and upwards.

1) "any 4th gen i5 will outperform the FX line CPUs in gaming" Bullshit, where did you get that from? Where's the proof?
2) You are using the stereotype that Intel CPUs run cooler. I run my FX 6300 at around + - 20 C and 45 C at load...it's almost 2015, what do you think AMD is dumb and ignores what people say?
3) " their architecture is ancient compared to 4th gen intel" If you don't know what you're talking about don't say it haha. Learn about both companies and their processors instead of fanboying here and saying nonsense somewhere else.
4) "Also bigger clock speed does NOT translate into faster processing. It's all about efficiency." I highlighted this point in my post since I know that people like you will pinpoint that and comment on it: "Overall faster processor because it has more cores, AT FASTER SPEEDS "
5) The "95%" of the games you are talking about that use 2 cores (I don't know where you got that from) are "current-gen". OP is asking for next gen. I won't waste my time explaining this so Google it: Most next-gen games that are CPU-intensive use 4 cores, and games such as Watch Dogs are hungry for cores. Don't believe me? Google it.
6) "And by the time games start using 8 cores the FX line will be obsolete, until AMD actually comes up with something new." If you are so good at telling the future, what are you doing here? You should be a millionaire who knows everything about the future...The FX series will never be obsolete (same for i5s/i7s)
7) I didn't suggest OP to go for FX 8350 just because it is an AMD. I've owned both Intel and AMD CPU based computers, so I am not biased to one manufacturer. Maybe you misunderstood my point in my first post.

Maybe you should stop being a fanboy and at least understand the basics okay?
1.) Real world performance i5 > FX. Google it.
2.) AMD CPUs have a lot higher TDP. Thats a FACT not a stereotype, Google it.
3.) I've spent 10 minutes to check out major sites again about the architecture, each of them stated they are OLDER than gen.4 intel architecture. Google it.
4.) IPC. Google it.
5.) Watchdogs is quite possibly the worst example since we all now how poorly optimized the game is. (Google will tell) And did you just say that next games need 4 cores? Thats good, you wont need 8 then right?
6.) Again games wont use suddenly 8 cores, just because consoles have LOW CLOCK, 8 core CPUs (2 reserved for OS, that makes it 6 usable cores, and again LOW CLOCK cores).
7.)I've built couple of PCs for my friends, with FX6300, FX8320, i5 4590k, i5 4690k, i7 4770k CPUs sure I'm not the owner of those machines but I can see how they perform, and i5s perform better. If you dont believe it go buy 2 configs and see which one performs better. Or you know what? Google it.

 

[iamlegend]

Well being a stereotype is not good.

 

[ZeroRequiem]

Well being a stereotype is not good.

I agree.

It's funny cuz he talked about you.

 

[ZeroRequiem]

lmao I'm not even gonna bother replying to you mate (I said I'm not biased and you call me a fanboy...ookkayyy).
Here have a cookie haha
And go shove Google up yours

To OP: I'm sorry you had to waste your time to read all that ^.

To answer your initial question: my opinion: FX 8350 > i5 4440 AND 7870 > 750 ti, but I would recommend you to buy an AMD RADEON 280x or NVIDIA GTX 770, OR 2x7870s or 2x660tis to be future-proof. My fellow friends in this forum will try their best to criticize and prove me wrong here, and there isn't anything wrong with that. You can agree or disagree with me all you want, but facts are facts. 😀

Well you still replied. It's okay it's hard for the fanboys to understand the facts. Why would you even recommend an FX8350 when the 8320 is just as good if you overclock it and it is cheaper? And just because you said you are not biased that doesnt mean you are not. Your actions speak louder. And still FX8350 wont beat the i5. It would be a sidegade, and OP would have to buy a new MoBo for nearly the same performance? Think about this. I am not biased, I just don't want to screw OP over. Get over it.

 

[ZeroRequiem]

It's not worth my time to argue with you after this message since:
1) You're dumb as shit: I told you two times that I'm not a fanboy and you still refer to me as one
and
By reply I meant talk to you directly, but since I don't think you understand English properly, I must talk to you directly now.
2) You are a hypocrite: You tell me that just because I say I am unbiased doesn't mean I'm not, and you call yourself unbiased..
3) You are just trying to make yourself look good here mate ("I just don't want to screw OP over."), I don't want to "screw OP over" either. Just because my opinions are different than yours, it doesn't mean that either of them are wrong.
4) You want me to get over it? Alright, here's how I'll do it:

If you didn't get my message before, f*** off mate.

Mate it's not "two times" it is TWICE. Corrected it for you, looks like english is giving you trouble.
I'm not trying to make myself look good here, but again, whats the point of buying a CPU + MoBo combo for 250$+ while gaining no actual performance boost? Let's say OP wants to build a PC from scratch then it's perfectly fine. I'm not sayin AMD CPUs are bad, I'm saying it's utter stupidity spending 250$+ on a sidegrade.

 

[AlexanderHUN]

Hi guys, m a newbie just sold my ps3 to assemble a new pc
Cpu: 4th gen core i5 4440
Ram: 6gb
Gpu : gtx 750 ti oc Asus 2gb

my Resolution is 1366*768

So is my pc ready for the next gen gaming..
I hope my build can play next gen games at medium-high

Your build is okay for entry level gaming. Truth to be told, only your GPU is holding you back.

Looks like the folks got confused in the comments, allow me to make things clear for you.
The most crucial part you need to upgrade is the graphics card, then a new monitor, preferably a FullHD one and then you should buy more RAM. 6GB might seem sufficient I recommend you to upgrade it to 8GB for now.

On to the GPUs:
GTX760, R9 270x or newer cards. Those will give you a significant increase in performance, they are better what you can find in next-gen consoles.

For the monitor:
Buy at least a FullHD one, there are millions of options, you can read more about them here on Tom's.

And the RAM:
6GB is sufficient for most of the games, but newer games will require more for sure. Try to upgrade your RAM at least to 8GB, that will be enough for the coming 1-2-3 years but if NOT, they you can easily upgrade it, this wont be a problem.

You don't need to sell or upgrade your CPU, it's a really good piece of technology, will serve you well in the coming years.
Hope this was helpful to you!

-Alexander

 

[COLGeek]

Closing this thread now. Seriously folks, this got out of control with the trolling for no good reason.

Attack ideas, not others. Back up statements with facts and links to support position. Be courteous or be quiet.

Thank you.