Question Is new i9-14900K worth it at $255.00?

[edo101]

Hey guys I have a discount on a new 14900k. At $255 USD worth it? I haven't paid any attention to the PC market but I heard the 14900k is bad? I can also get a 14700k for $205.

I am currently on a 10850k build with a RTX 4090. I was looking at this because in a month I will no longer be able to get this discount. Or should I just save up for an AMD build?

I am gonna be unemployed for about a year or 2 for health reasons, I wasn't gonna build anything immediately (doesn't seem intuitive to spend more if youre getting laid off), but just wanted to take advantage of the discount before I no longer have it. I am happy with my 4090 performance at 4K atm though I do wonder how much performance I am losing being on a 10850K @ 5ghz compared to the 14900k. I guess since it'a also BF and Cyber Monday, it made me think maybe do an upgrade? I am currently getting a new case and need to rewire with a PSU i bought back in jan 2024 so the upgrade itch with BF/Cyber Monday made wonder if I should upgrade.

Tbh, when I built my current core system back in Jan 2021, I anticipated to use it for another 4 to 6 years. I had my i7-930 build for 10 years lol.

My use case is gaming and video editing and programming.

 

[punkncat]

Supposedly the issues with the 13 and 14 gen Intel are corrected with updates that by my read on them is basically an undervolt. I have read multiple articles stating that Intel is running out of the higher end CPU due to warranty demands. I would not buy an over 65W 13/14th gen at this point, but that is my own concern.

On your current platform the only way you could go without mobo, maybe RAM, possibly OS, would be 11th gen and IMO the peak value on those have long passed outside a luck find, used. My personal opinion would be that if you know you are about to be without income for a while that updating a system build over a properly operational 10th gen system would be poor resource planning over a mere discount (particularly in light of the other hardware required). IDK your finances and make certain assumptions even saying that, so really....is it worth it to you?

 

[edo101]

Supposedly the issues with the 13 and 14 gen Intel are corrected with updates that by my read on them is basically an undervolt. I have read multiple articles stating that Intel is running out of the higher end CPU due to warranty demands. I would not buy an over 65W 13/14th gen at this point, but that is my own concern.

On your current platform the only way you could go without mobo, maybe RAM, possibly OS, would be 11th gen and IMO the peak value on those have long passed outside a luck find, used. My personal opinion would be that if you know you are about to be without income for a while that updating a system build over a properly operational 10th gen system would be poor resource planning over a mere discount (particularly in light of the other hardware required). IDK your finances and make certain assumptions even saying that, so really....is it worth it to you?

Yeah that's what I thinking. I would be spending $600 over a discount for the CPU+RAM+Mobo. And that's if my current Noctua NH-D15 is compartible and good enough with the 14900k. I am not strapped for cash per se but my current build I am happy with for the most part. I am 4K and PCVR max settings klnda guy so I suppose I am not losing much via my CPU when it comes to bottlenecks?

 

[punkncat]

With 4K a large part of the load is on the graphics card. IMO the 10850/10900K were GREAT value to performance at the time and I leaned towards the 850K myself. The loss of cores but gain in IPC on the 11th gen i9 offering did little to satisfy the market, but I got an ASTOUNDING deal on an 11900K after buying into the platform on an 11600K, so that is where I went and remain.

To me, purchasing the whole new heart of a system on a dead end socket (at this point) is much like the "shoe sale conundrum". The wife would like to say well I saved 25% on these shoes I liked, but never mind the rest of the hundred dollar cost after the discount type thing. In my own perception of the happenings Intel boned its loyal customers with a decent 12th gen launch and then made the upgrade path a risky proposition. I will not be considering anything Intel 'K' skew again until about 6 or more months after 15th release and honestly might even take a wait and see till whatever 16th turns out to be based solely on the lack of perceivable performance uplift to cost. That may well put you on the other side of your recovery time if you see things in a similar light.

Either way, GL on your decision. I know I get itchy sometimes just for the sake of doing it completely outside an actual need for it. Consumerism at its finest.

 

[edo101]

With 4K a large part of the load is on the graphics card. IMO the 10850/10900K were GREAT value to performance at the time and I leaned towards the 850K myself. The loss of cores but gain in IPC on the 11th gen i9 offering did little to satisfy the market, but I got an ASTOUNDING deal on an 11900K after buying into the platform on an 11600K, so that is where I went and remain.

To me, purchasing the whole new heart of a system on a dead end socket (at this point) is much like the "shoe sale conundrum". The wife would like to say well I saved 25% on these shoes I liked, but never mind the rest of the hundred dollar cost after the discount type thing. In my own perception of the happenings Intel boned its loyal customers with a decent 12th gen launch and then made the upgrade path a risky proposition. I will not be considering anything Intel 'K' skew again until about 6 or more months after 15th release and honestly might even take a wait and see till whatever 16th turns out to be based solely on the lack of perceivable performance uplift to cost. That may well put you on the other side of your recovery time if you see things in a similar light.

Either way, GL on your decision. I know I get itchy sometimes just for the sake of doing it completely outside an actual need for it. Consumerism at its finest.

Yeah I wan to avoid falling for the itch. You keep mentioning dead end socket and upgrade path...

Is there a new trend for platforms to have upgradable path? I'd like that honestly and prefer it since it means you don't have to throw away mobo and RAM to move on to a better CPU. Or is that an AMD thing where their new sockets grants you mulitple gen CPU upgrades?

 

[TeamRed2024]

Or is that an AMD thing where their new sockets grants you mulitple gen CPU upgrades?

AMD's AM5 will net you a solid upgrade path. Thank me later.

 

[punkncat]

Yeah I wan to avoid falling for the itch. You keep mentioning dead end socket and upgrade path...

Is there a new trend for platforms to have upgradable path? I'd like that honestly and prefer it since it means you don't have to throw away mobo and RAM to move on to a better CPU. Or is that an AMD thing where their new sockets grants you mulitple gen CPU upgrades?

As you are aware, Intel has typically done two generations per chipset/socket. For instance your 4xx series motherboard (presumably) could have a BIOS update and be good for a 11th gen CPU. AMD took that one step further with AM4 and basically (most quality) motherboards could have been used from Ryzen 1xxx all the way to 5xxx. Much better compatibility with the 4xx (mobo) and from 2xxx to 5xxx (CPU). Intels chipsets and CPU from 12-14th gen are compatible with BIOS updates as well this round. So far the AMD 7xxx and 9xxx CPU offer this upgrade path as well.
There is essentially nowhere to go from a 14900K without a platform hardware change.

 

[edo101]

As you are aware, Intel has typically done two generations per chipset/socket. For instance your 4xx series motherboard (presumably) could have a BIOS update and be good for a 11th gen CPU. AMD took that one step further with AM4 and basically (most quality) motherboards could have been used from Ryzen 1xxx all the way to 5xxx. Much better compatibility with the 4xx (mobo) and from 2xxx to 5xxx (CPU). Intels chipsets and CPU from 12-14th gen are compatible with BIOS updates as well this round. So far the AMD 7xxx and 9xxx CPU offer this upgrade path as well.
There is essentially nowhere to go from a 14900K without a platform hardware change.

I see, thank you. I think I'll avoid this itch then since I am in no dire need. I'd be sinking more money into something I don't really need atm just cause of a discount