[SOLVED] Is the Intel Core i5-9600K good enough to be with an 1080ti?

[bakkenoskar]

I currently have an ASUS 1080ti and an Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz. Im experiencing low framerates on multiple games, for example in CSGO i only have max 130FPS. On CSGO im running 4:3 resoulution and the lowest settings, but still only 100fps most of the times. Also in GTA V im experiencing low framerates. So is it worth exchanging my i7-6700 with the i5-9600k? Would i notice any differences in frames?

I've tried everything i've found on the internet that could help fix my framerate problem on CSGO, but nothing helps. So im not sure if it is the processor thats the problem or something else.
My specs:

ASUS Geforce GTX 1080Ti ROG Strix Gaming videocard
ASUS ROG Strix Z270F Gaming (1151) motherboard
Corsair RM750x 750W power supply
16gb of HyperX Fury DDR4 2133MHz ram
Corsair Hydro Series H100i v2 cooling

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700-vs-Intel-Core-i5-9600K/3515vs4031

Check this website out tells you benchmark on these two cpu and looks like the i5 is better but the motherboard will not surrport your CPU since its not an 9th gen motherboard

So suggest the Intel-Core-i7-7700K for your motherboard I had this cpu before and it was good but that just my thought

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-6700/3647vs3515

Here the i5 9th gen and i7 7700k cpu mark not alot of diffrence but buying new motherboard and cpu can cost alot!

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-9600K/3647vs4031

 

[bakkenoskar]

Okay, i didn't even think of my mobo not supporting the 9th gen. I'll take a look at the i7-7700K, but im still wondering if it is my CPU that is causing my frame drops?

 

[geofelt]

The i7-6700 can not be overclocked; as such your max turbo is 4.3 and that happens on only one core.
In contrast, a i5-9600K can usually overclock to near 5.0 on all cores.
I would think that would be big boost for your type of games.
But, that would entail a new motherboard.

As a test to see how sensitive your games are to core speeds, try this:
In windows power management, reduce your max cpu performance from 100% to a lesser number like 80%
If you see a difference, you can assume that faster cores will be a help.
Yes, you will reduce from 8 threads to 6 but most games can not make effective use of more than 6 threads.

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

Okay, i didn't even think of my mobo not supporting the 9th gen. I'll take a look at the i7-7700K, but im still wondering if it is my CPU that is causing my frame drops?

Have you tried checking out your temps on the cpu and gpu maybe ajust the fans to speed more faster. Or it could be an bottleneck issue?

https://pc-builds.com/calculator/Core_i7-6700/GeForce_GTX_1080_Ti/0FU0XFlu/11/

Have you tried boosting the clock upto 4ghz with your current cpu!

 

[bakkenoskar]

The i7-6700 can not be overclocked; as such your max turbo is 4.3 and that happens on only one core.
In contrast, a i5-9600K can usually overclock to near 5.0 on all cores.
I would think that would be big boost for your type of games,

As a test to see how sensitive your games are to core speeds, try this:
In windows power management, reduce your max cpu performance from 100% to a lesser number like 80%
If you see a difference, you can assume that faster cores will be a help.
Yes, you will reduce from 8 threads to 6 but most games can not make effective use of more than 6 threads.

Yeah thanks, i'll take a look.

 

[bakkenoskar]

Have you tried checking out your temps on the cpu and gpu maybe ajust the fans to speed more faster. Or it could be an bottleneck issue?

https://pc-builds.com/calculator/Core_i7-6700/GeForce_GTX_1080_Ti/0FU0XFlu/11/

Have you tried boosting the clock upto 4ghz?

I think my fan speed are fine. The first thing i've thought about was a bottleneck issue. That's why i thought maybe upgrading my CPU would help.

 

[bakkenoskar]

When i'm ingame, i only use around 45% of my CPU in task manager. I dont know if it should be that way or not.

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

I think my fan speed are fine. The first thing i've thought about was a bottleneck issue. That's why i thought maybe upgrading my CPU would help.

When i'm ingame, i only use around 45% of my CPU in task manager. I dont know if it should be that way or not.

Yeah acrording to this website that bottleneck for i7 7700k is only 9% and the i5-9600k is 5% not alot off diffrence but they both will work well with your gpu even give you better peformance!

Also 45% in game thats still good think because thats 55% the cpu is not even using for your games!

 

[bakkenoskar]

Okay, i play CSGO with the lowest setting, but i found a thread on another forum saying that if you change all settings to maximum you would have a lot more frames. Because the game engine is broken. Guess what, i changed the settings from lowest to highest, and now i have 200-300 fps. Wow.

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

Okay, i play CSGO with the lowest setting, but i found a thread on another forum saying that if you change all settings to maximum you would have a lot more frames. Because the game engine is broken. Guess what, i changed the settings from lowest to highest, and now i have 200-300 fps. Wow.

I always thought more higher settings the lower the fps gets but guess thats good luck for you

 

[bakkenoskar]

Yep, i thought the same but guess not. Thank you for taking the time to help me tho!

 

[geofelt]

Bottleneck calculators are junk science.
Without changing your motherboard, your strongest upgrade would be a I7-7700K.
The 9600K I discussed above is not an option with your motherboard.
Here is the support list for your motherboard:

｜｜ASUS USA

www.asus.com

Your i7-6700 still commands a price around $185 on ebay.
To find what processors are really selling for, find the piece in used condition.
Then filter on completed auctions.
If you buy a K suffix processor, you can overclock it to good effect.
How high will be determined by the quality of your particular chip.
Here are some statistics from silicon lottery:
What percent can get an overclock at a somewhat sane 1.4v Vcore.

As of 6/9/17
I7-7700K
4.9 83%
5.0 62%
5.1 29%
5.2 6%
As of 6/19/17

I5-7600K
4.9 72%
5.0 52%
5.1 27%
5.2 16%
5.3 samples exist, unknown % of occurrence
As of 12/04/2016

I7-6700K
4.9 5%
4.8 21%
4.7 64%
4.6 96%

As of 12/04/2016

I5-6600K

4.9 14%
4.8 38%
4.7 67%
4.6 87%

Be careful how you interpret task manager cpu utilisations.
Windows will spread the activity of a single thread over all available threads.
So, if you had a game that was single threaded and cpu bound, it would show up on a quad core processor as 25%
utilization across all 4 threads.
leading you to think your bottleneck was elsewhere.
It turns our that few games can USEFULLY use more than 2-3 threads.
How can you tell how well threaded your games or apps are?
One way is to disable one thread and see how you do.

You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of processors to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, it tells you that you will not benefit from more cores.
Likely, a better clock rate will be more important.

 

[bakkenoskar]

Bottleneck calculators are junk science.
Without changing your motherboard, your strongest upgrade would be a I7-7700K.
The 9600K I discussed above is not an option with your motherboard.
Here is the support list for your motherboard:

｜｜ASUS USA

www.asus.com

Your i7-6700 still commands a price around $185 on ebay.
To find what processors are really selling for, find the piece in used condition.
Then filter on completed auctions.
If you buy a K suffix processor, you can overclock it to good effect.
How high will be determined by the quality of your particular chip.
Here are some statistics from silicon lottery:
What percent can get an overclock at a somewhat sane 1.4v Vcore.

As of 6/9/17
I7-7700K
4.9 83%
5.0 62%
5.1 29%
5.2 6%
As of 6/19/17

I5-7600K
4.9 72%
5.0 52%
5.1 27%
5.2 16%
5.3 samples exist, unknown % of occurrence
As of 12/04/2016

I7-6700K
4.9 5%
4.8 21%
4.7 64%
4.6 96%

As of 12/04/2016

I5-6600K

4.9 14%
4.8 38%
4.7 67%
4.6 87%

Be careful how you interpret task manager cpu utilisations.
Windows will spread the activity of a single thread over all available threads.
So, if you had a game that was single threaded and cpu bound, it would show up on a quad core processor as 25%
utilization across all 4 threads.
leading you to think your bottleneck was elsewhere.
It turns our that few games can USEFULLY use more than 2-3 threads.
How can you tell how well threaded your games or apps are?
One way is to disable one thread and see how you do.

You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of processors to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, it tells you that you will not benefit from more cores.
Likely, a better clock rate will be more important.

Yeah, i didn't think about my mobo supporting 9th gen. I think maybe i will upgrade to an i7-7700K but im not sure. I'll also try to disable a thread to see as you mentioned. I still think i will have low fps on games as GTA 5. I want to avoid upgrading to another CPU if i dont benefit anything from it.

 

[geofelt]

My understanding is that GTAV and CSGO are not very well threaded and depend on the performance of a single fast core.
I will be interested to see how you do.