Question Is the new x870 really worth it?

[Ancipital]

I want to create a new PC because my 12 years old one (AMD FX 8350 4Ghz 8x/Gigabyte FX990) died on me. I want to reuse the GPU, PSU and the case.

I created this thread about x870 bards, and I started an exhaustive price/performance comparison table:
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/which-motherboard-do-i-want-to-buy.3858818/

But after seeing the prices, especially in Europe, I started to doubt that at THIS moment a x870 board worth its money.
Please let me know your opinion. If you can post to some resources, I will do the homework (again) and start creating a new comparison chart.

Maybe the prices for x870 will drop a bit around Christmas, but then the same will happen also for x670.

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Update
Maybe I could start from here ? But they don't list prices.
I will find a way to make that table more "hands in the wallet"

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Hey there,

So, what's the basis behind the X870 purchase? Do you currently have a Zen 4/5 system? Are you purchasing a whole new system?

TBH, if you already have an X670 board, and it's decent, there's really no reason to go and spend money on a new release mobo, that is only gonna give you what you already have.

Is there a budget you have in mind?

 

[Ancipital]

So, what's the basis behind the X870 purchase?

Hi. I updated the question. What I need is single-core max frequency.

Now I looked into the above mentioned article, and considering the prices in EU, a board as MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk, at 294 euros does not worth the money. I don't need USB 4 and I use the old Ethernet cables because in Germany the internet is on average under 100mbps.

I have a bunch of old SSDs and HDDs. So SATA is more important for me than usb 4. External sata would be also nice.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Hmmm. So, I think you are focusing on the wrong component. Although the mobo 'can', in very specific circumstances (overclocking) determine the outcome of the CPU's max single core, when running the CPU at stock, it's not really down to the mobo. It's the model of CPU that's important.

A 7700x will not run faster single core on and X870 over an X670.

I would simply get an X670, or even a very good B650e that has the required ports and supports the number of drives you want to install.

You are making the purchase a little more complicated than needed.

External sata would be also nice.

External SATA drives are run via USB.

Given you need lots of sata, I'd say the X670e will do fine.

 

[geofelt]

Max frequency does not tell the whole story.
Since your cpu was designed, better architectures have generated better performance for the same frequency.
Single thread performance IS very important for most games.

Run the cpu-z bench on your FX8350.
You should get a score of about 232.
http://valid.x86.fr/bench/3ja7rs

Pick your desired cpu first, then the motherboard.
I would avoid the very lowest chipset versions, mainly because such motherboards cut corners to reach a price point. You will find that all will have sufficient i/o ports, and if not, there are expansion cards to give you more.

Do you have a budget?

 

[Ancipital]

I know the cpu already: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X.
The budget for the mainboard would be about 300 euros.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

You should go with something like an ASRock X670e Taichi, or an Asus ROG Crosshair. This gives you want you want, without paying a new tech tax for an unproven mobo.