Question Is the surge protector enough or could a modern pc take damage from suddently be shutted off from loosing power?

[Kellerman88]

Hi.

I wonder if this surge protector from phillips is enough to protect my gaming pc.
Pc also have some voltage/surge protection in the psu asus tuf 850w.

https://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/SPN7040WA_10/surge-protector

I know it could be spikes when the power suddently return to the house after it went off, it’s here the surge protection comes in handy, but it still make the pc suddently go off like someone pulling the plug out.
Is it ok when it happens or can a pc take hardware damage from suddently be out of power when running?

Then if thats the case only a ups can keep it safe? Or am i just fine with my surge protector since i wont use it in Lightning and also always unplug in bad weather conditions, im more worried for the suddently loss of power.

Thanks for reading

 

[bill001g]

If you can afford a UPS I would get one.

Generally modern computers seem to tolerate in effect unplugging them. Used to be when you had a hard drive you worried about a mechanical crash when it lost power. Windows seems to be able to fix everything when you don't shutdown cleanly but you of course would lose any data you did not save in a application.

Modern power supplies seem to tolerate even short sags in the voltage...like when the old style lights used to dim for second. A UPS protects better since it can boast the power when it is more than a very short time.

I guess it depends on how common a outage happens. Where I used to live I would lose power randomly for a couple minutes almost weekly....much longer when there was even slightly bad weather. Where I live now maybe I lose power a couple times a year. I still have all my UPS from when I had bad power.

 

[USAFRet]

Or am i just fine with my surge protector since i wont use it in Lightning and also always unplug in bad weather conditions

That is false safety.

Ethernet cable also unplugged?
Monitors unplugged and disconnected?

Electricity follows strange pathways.

 

[Kellerman88]

That is false safety.

Ethernet cable also unplugged?
Monitors unplugged and disconnected?

Electricity follows strange pathways.

Using wifi and monitor is plugged into the same protector so i unplug the protector. What do you think of pcs and unexpected shutoff when power suddently go off?

 

[Kellerman88]

If you can afford a UPS I would get one.

Generally modern computers seem to tolerate in effect unplugging them. Used to be when you had a hard drive you worried about a mechanical crash when it lost power. Windows seems to be able to fix everything when you don't shutdown cleanly but you of course would lose any data you did not save in a application.

Modern power supplies seem to tolerate even short sags in the voltage...like when the old style lights used to dim for second. A UPS protects better since it can boast the power when it is more than a very short time.

I guess it depends on how common a outage happens. Where I used to live I would lose power randomly for a couple minutes almost weekly....much longer when there was even slightly bad weather. Where I live now maybe I lose power a couple times a year. I still have all my UPS from when I had bad power.

Yes but i also readed that the batteries in the ups always stay fully charged and use to lasta year or so before capacity drop?

I had my first powerloss yesterday since i moved here 1.5 years ago as far as i know, on night it could have been gone but i havent notice any. So if the pc with this psu deal ok with risk of be suddently loose power i dont need ups, if hardware can risk damage i would look for a cheap one just for the pc itself so i have time to push the power Button 😊

 

[Silas Sanchez]

In todays crumbling infrastructure in western society it is a basic requirement that PCs can tolerate having the power shutoff abruptly, if not they are unfit for the realworld. In my area the power goes off abruptly 7-9 times a year mainly due to storms, they turn off power stations to save the planet and so more chance of storms from far distances causing power outages.
All my previous PCs and laptops have been exposed to all kinds of abrupt power loose and have never had any real problems. It seems PCs nowadays are more sensitive probably due to all the crap that is in them particularly the relationship between the motherboard and everything else is now more complicated.

A common consumer surge protector is a farce, they offer nothing that the PSU doesn't already offer, its sad really. By design the PSU is suppose to block alot of surges. If it was really a problem our hardware would have so many problems. There is no real science which supports the notion that a surge protector does anything better.

Apart from dangerous damaging surges from faulty grid/transformers, faults etc. To protect from lightning, yes unplug everything from the box, so no cables are in direct contact with physical metal objects and the earth itself. This will protect from direct strikes conducted into the place and from the possible step potential of a nearby strike on the ground. But under rare conditions the lightning pulse which gives rise to a strong time changing magnetic field will induce a voltage in any grounded & closed circuit nearby, so with an unplugged box a faraday cage is the only way to offer any protection, but that event would have to be super rare.