Is this a good Budget Gaming build ($450)?

[TheChaoticToast]

Hi,

Im going to be looking to play games like Watch Dogs, Battlefield 3 and 4, , Far cry 3 and 4, Theif, Counter strike GO, Skyrim, etc. at Medium to high settings. With this build, will I be able to get at least 45 FPS at these settings?


CPU: Intel Haswell i5- 4460

GPU: Sapphire AMD R7 260x 2GB

RAM: 8GB 1333mhz

Motherboard: ASUS B85M-E/CSM

Case: Rosewill Blackbone ATX mid- tower

HDD: My own Seagate 1 TB Drive ( 7200 or 10k RPM)

PSU: Rosewill 450w Power Supply- Model: PS-450w (X-power)

^ Here: http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/7/0/7/3/7/5/webimg/787814401_tp.jpg


OS: Windows 7 64 bit



Thanks!

 

[TheChaoticToast]

you will never notice the difference between any 41xx cpu. they just have difference clocks like 3.4, 3.5, 3.6, which are miniscule differences you will never feel. i think the 4160 costs $112 or something like that. so if you want to spend an extra $6-7 for a barely faster cpu then its all good. but i would save every last dollar you can and put that toward a better graphics card.

in the $150 price range you can get an r9-270

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Wow, nevermind, its a 450w Power supply! It is a model: PS-450w (X-Power)

here: http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/7/0/7/3/7/5/webimg/787814401_tp.jpg

Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 270 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($145.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $145.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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but that card will require two pcie power pins which im not sure your power supply has.

what exact model is your rosewill power supply?

Wow, its actually a 450w power supply- Model: PS-450w (X-Power) by Rosewill.

Here: http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/7/0/7/3/7/5/webimg/787814401_tp.jpg

 

[Onus]

Here's a R7 265 for $130: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150722 but note that it only has 1GB of VRAM, which may not be enough if you like high-res texture mods. Here's a 2GB R9 270 for $150: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131545 and another: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161449

I can't access that site at work, but if it is an older Rosewill (and has a little voltage switch on it), it should be replaced.

 

[nikoli707]

http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=1707375&image=787814405&images=787814401,787814402,787814404,787814405&formats=0,0,0,0&format=0

this is far less than ideal. you really need a new power supply.

the bare minimum is an antec vp450 for $33, though it goes on sale quite regularly, i got one for $20 recently. but this power supply will limit you to a single 6 pin pcie connector.

the xfx 550 is the next best and pretty much the go to budget power supply that has plenty of power for any cpu and single gpu rig. it is currently $48 but lately it has been going on and off sale for $25 after rebate.

there are a few other choice units that go on sale from time to time but i dont see any right now.

 

[TheChaoticToast]

http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=1707375&image=787814405&images=787814401,787814402,787814404,787814405&formats=0,0,0,0&format=0

this is far less than ideal. you really need a new power supply.

the bare minimum is an antec vp450 for $33, though it goes on sale quite regularly, i got one for $20 recently. but this power supply will limit you to a single 6 pin pcie connector.

the xfx 550 is the next best and pretty much the go to budget power supply that has plenty of power for any cpu and single gpu rig. it is currently $48 but lately it has been going on and off sale for $25 after rebate.

there are a few other choice units that go on sale from time to time but i dont see any right now.

Im planning on getting an i3 4160 and a r9 270. Is my current power supply sufficient enough for the time being? Based on a PSU calc, my build ill only draw about 364w, which is almost 100 less then the max. Can I wait to install a new PSU?

 

[nikoli707]

your power supply doesn't have two 6pin(or 6+2 pin) pcie power connectors, it only has one. the r9-270 needs two. you "could" use the molex adapters to gain an extra pcie connector, but this is definitely not recommended.

 

[TheChaoticToast]

your power supply doesn't have two 6pin(or 6+2 pin) pcie power connectors, it only has one. the r9-270 needs two. you "could" use the molex adapters to gain an extra pcie connector, but this is definitely not recommended.

I've used Molex adapters in previous builds, why do they come off as non-recommended?

 

[Onus]

If a PSU does not have the required PCIe power connectors, it may not have enough amperage on +12V for those devices that would need those connectors. Being an older Rosewill, your PSU may not even be capable of producing what is on its label (older Rosewill PSUs had people cursing their name loud and long; some people still do so, before realizing how much they've finally improved). You might be okay, but the price of failure could be high, as sometimes cheap PSUs don't like to die alone, and take attached parts with them into the fiery abyss.

 

[CTurbo]

Please do not use adapters with your psu. It's not a good idea. I think maybe it is best for you to get the i5 now with a 750ti and then you can upgrade your psu and video card later.

 

[nikoli707]

your power supply claims it has two 12v rails and 20amps a piece. if you used something like a gtx780 with molex adapters you could easily go over the 20amp limit. the r9-270 wont use anywhere near 20amps, probably around 150w or 12amps roughly off the top of my head. but because one could very easily and unknowingly go over a rails amp limit, its just not recommended to use molex adapters.

now will it work for you? my guess is yes. would you have any problems? probably not. but i and many others on here are not going to recommend that you do so. i cannot give it my stamp of approval as i wouldn't recommend to you something that could potentially damage your components. that said i dont even know if that power supply will "actually" supply its advertised wattage. its natural for power supplies to output less wattage over their lifetime. so without knowing the age of the power supply or its lifetime hours used so far its a shot in the dark. running too close to max wattage with little headroom is exactly how low end older power supplies fry, and i dont even know if it has any over current protection or thermal cutoff. you could potentially fry everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6snWfd1v7M

 

[TheChaoticToast]

your power supply claims it has two 12v rails and 20amps a piece. if you used something like a gtx780 with molex adapters you could easily go over the 20amp limit. the r9-270 wont use anywhere near 20amps, probably around 150w or 12amps roughly off the top of my head. but because one could very easily and unknowingly go over a rails amp limit, its just not recommended to use molex adapters.

now will it work for you? my guess is yes. would you have any problems? probably not. but i and many others on here are not going to recommend that you do so. i cannot give it my stamp of approval as i wouldn't recommend to you something that could potentially damage your components. that said i dont even know if that power supply will "actually" supply its advertised wattage. its natural for power supplies to output less wattage over their lifetime. so without knowing the age of the power supply or its lifetime hours used so far its a shot in the dark. running too close to max wattage with little headroom is exactly how low end older power supplies fry, and i dont even know if it has any over current protection or thermal cutoff. you could potentially fry everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6snWfd1v7M

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202090


I found this Sapphire version on NewEgg. It only requires a single 6-pin adapter- Would this be safer? Do i still need to replace my PSU before I build now?

 

[Onus]

Does your PSU have any 6-pin PCIe cable? If so, you can most likely use it. If an adapter is needed, then I would not. It might work, but it is not a risk I would take myself, therefor I cannot recommend that someone else do so.

 

[TheChaoticToast]

Does your PSU have any 6-pin PCIe cable? If so, you can most likely use it. If an adapter is needed, then I would not. It might work, but it is not a risk I would take myself, therefor I cannot recommend that someone else do so.

Yes, it does! Will this mean it is generally safe, at least for a little while until I can afford a better one?

 

[Onus]

If it has a PCIe power cable, then it probably has enough +12V amperage for a graphics card that needs that one cable.