Is This A Good Build?

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Hi there, I am in need of a gaming computer to record and play games.
The games I currently and want to play is Minecraft, CS:GO, and GTA 5.
I want to be able to play at 120 FPS+ While Recording
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Chevita/saved/
There are two builds there.
Also, if I am wasting more money than I should be, can you guys help me build a new setup?
I will not be playing high demanding games like Battlefield though.
 

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Neither of these will manage that unfortunately. You need at least a 770 to even have a chance of getting 120+ also, just checking is your monster a 120hz one? Btw an fx 8350 is much better for recording while gaming
 

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What monitor are you using this with? Specifically, what is the resolution and refresh rate? You want a 120hz monitor if you want to even display 120 FPS. The resolution of the monitor determines how much hardware you need to reach the desired FPS.

In general, the 750Ti is not worth the price/performance. The AMD 265X and 270 are much faster for the same price.
 
the 2nd built is more powerful than the 1st built for the obvious reasons ....but why the need for 120+ fps above 60 fps and u cannot notice any difference...
if you have a 60Hz monitor, and are outputting 120 FPS, you only actually display 60 frames. Likewise, if you have a 120Hz monitor and 75 FPS, you will output 75 unique frames.
 

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Ah... I'm not exactly sure because I currently use a laptop but my monitor has been used for Xbox gaming. I'm guessing that if it was 60hz I'd only be able to get 60FPS?
Anyways I have a different build, not sure if you saw that one but it's called "New"
will that work? If not is there a way you can help change some parts for it to actually function a lot better?
 

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It seems whenever I am playing, 100+ FPS looks a lot smoother than 60FPS ( I currently play on a laptop with the lowest settings)
I have a new build called "New" would that work better than my 1st build? It's cheaper but I'm not sure if it's better.
 

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I have this monitor http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-T24C550ND-24-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitor/dp/B00C18YUZU/ref=pd_ybh_2
I haven't used it for PC gaming so I'm not exactly sure what the hz is. It is 1920x1080 though.
And take a look at the "New" build instead of the "Chev"
Is there something I should change there instead?
 

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Well, that monitor is definitely 60Hz, so as stated, you wouldn't see the difference between a constant 60 FPS and 120 FPS. That said, real-world gaming doesn't just sit at a constant FPS. So a game that hovers around 120 FPS, is less likely to spike down to 30 FPS when things get busy. That's probably why 120 seems smoother in some of your games. (You can also try to toggle VSYNC.)

Now, as for the build. It's much better, but you want to stick with your original motherboard. The H81 will really lock you into a corner, and possibly bottleneck some of those components. An H87 would give you back PCIe 3.0, 32 GB of max RAM, more USB3.0 ports, etc...the PCIe 3.0 being key. A H97 would allow you to upgrade the CPU down the road, to a Devil's Canyon, or the Broadwell chips launching later this year. Finally, a Z97 would allow overclocking, if you go with an unlocked CPU. None of these add much to the cost, so I'd at least go with a H97.

As far as the GPU, you could probably save a little by grabbing a GTX 770 or a R9 280X--whichever is cheaper, as they're about even in performance. Either should keep a 1080p screen maxed out for a few years.



 

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I'm not familiar with that RAM either. I'd recommend at least DDR-1600, from Corsair or GSKILL. Anything beyond that is fine if the price is about the same, but you'll get barely noticeable performance improvements past 1600.
 

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I didn't understand both of your answers that you just said really since I am a complete noobie at this stuff..
But someone gave me this build
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/W4Wnyc
Is that good? And I do not want to overclock at all.
 

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What should I change for it to be good but without overclocking?
 

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Okay, it'll be really good then?
 

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Random question here, but how do you get a badge name to show up below your avatar? For example under your avatar you have the "Motherboard Authority" badge name, some have "Sprinter", "Grandmaster", etc... (I know what the various badges mean, and how to get them.... I just don't know how to get a badge name to appear below my avatar)
 


u have to go to manage my profile by clicking the arrow at the top beside your user name and set as status on a badge u want...
 

Rapajez

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Much better. Next, remove the OC changes above, and if you want to stay at 60 FPS in newer games, use the saved money to upgrade to a 270X, 280, or 280X...depending on how much you can afford.

If you need to shave off a few more bucks, you can go from a "i5-4690" to a "i5-4670". It's only slightly less powerful if you're not OC-ing.
 


its good now but if u are not overclocking and buying a k processor an z series board u are wasting your money and yes yes it will be good...
 

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Okay so I saved the build you made, will I be able to play at 60FPS+ with this build?
Or will I have to change my video card to Radeon R9 280X or NVIDIA GTX 770?

 

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The games you listed above, yes. In newer, or the most demanding games, you may have to turn some settings, like AA or "Anti-Aliasing" down a few notches. AA helps smooth out the jagged edges in between pixels, but usually hits performance on the video card the hardest. I like to max out all the other settings, and slowly raise the AA level until the FPS drop below 60.

Upgrading to one of those cards means you'll probably hit 60 FPS in newer games, with less settings turned down. Again, it all depends on the specific game.

Below is a comparison between the 270X and 280X in some demanding games, with all the settings cranked @ 1080p. They didn't have the 280(non-X) in there, but it's basically in-between these 2. Keep in mind, the games you listed in the original post are less demanding than these, and you don't need AA cranked in every game.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1043?vs=1041
 


the build given by rapajez is good and it will be sufficient for any modern games in ultra at 1080p res r9 280 and 280x are basically the same card but the 280x has a better clock speed but u can always oc the r9 280 to match the 280x clock.....here is a benchmark list for u ....
280-1080p-results.png
 

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Okay thanks, but to make sure, on Minecraft & CS GO, I'll get great frames?

 

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Okay thanks! I think I will go with this build then just upgrade in the future!