Is this a good gaming rig, nice for the next few years?

[spyguy001]

I would like to know if these specs can be good for a gaming pc. I am really new at this and i want to build a good gaming pc that is preferably better than the ps4 specs and will last me a few years without upgrading anything. Also, the link is here:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7782889&sku=B69-1560

I am grateful for any additional info you guys could provide, for ex, how much will a pc cost minimally that will beat the ps4 or xbox720 specs and last about 1-3 years more with any new games on at least medium-high settings.

 

[SamGriffiths]

Hey, since you can predict the future, do you mind telling me the lotto numbers? Thanks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadwell_(microarchitecture)

Broadwell is expected to launch in three major forms:[10]
Desktop version (LGA1150 socket): Broadwell-D
Mobile/laptop version (PGA socket): Broadwell-M
BGA version:
35 W and 55 W TDP classes: Broadwell-H (For "all-in-one" systems, Mini-ITX form factor motherboards, and other small footprint formats.)
Less than 15 W TDP class (SoC): Broadwell-U (For Intel's Ultrabook and NUC platforms.)
Less than 10 W TDP class (SoC): Broadwell-Y (For tablets and certain Ultrabook-class implementations.)

 

[8350rocks]

Since you don't do your research at all:

http://www.dailytech.com/Report+Intel+Delays+14+nm+Broadwell+Schedules+Haswell+Refresh+for+2014/article31770.htm

Thus for 2014 Intel won't be offering a die shrink, but a breather "Haswell refresh". In some regards this will likely be similar to NVIDIA Corp.'s (NVDA) GeForce 700 Series, which kept the same core designs and process node (28 nm), but rebranded parts, shuffling higher performance parts to lower price points.

http://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/Intel-Not-Releasing-14nm-Broadwell-CPUs-Next-Year-Haswell-and-Haswell-E-Will-Dominat

Intel has previously announced that Broadwell chips would be BGA only, which means that there would not be a traditional LGA socket-ed desktop part. Broadwell chips would only come soldered onto motherboards in bare-bones systems, laptops, and tablets for example.

Now, can you stop spreading bad information about how 4th Gen Intel is great...it's a flop...it is no real performance gain, draws more power in desktops, overclocks poorly, requires massive cooling to overclock at all, and it's on a dead socket that Intel is charging a premium on for new motherboards that don't have much improvement over the old Z77 boards.

New Features?

Let's see:
Z77 Boards:
SATA3 ports? Check.
PCIe 3.0? Check.
USB 3.0? Check.

Z87 Boards:
SATA3 ports? Check.
PCIe 3.0? Check.
USB 3.0? Check.

Who wins by paying more for the same thing? No one.

Tom's Hardware does not recommend it for a reason. "Hasfail" is worthless for desktop users, and a marginal improvement for heavy laptop users. The only real benefit to it, is if you leave your laptop at idle for extended periods while it's not plugged into the wall. That and the improved iGPU that's still worse than anything AMD offers, and gamers won't use the iGPU anyway.

 

[spyguy001]

Well, I'll check to see if Ivy is cheaper than Haswell. If it is, i'll get it. If not, then no.

 

[8350rocks]

Let me help you with that:

pcpartpicker:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i53570k
i5-3570k: $189.99 @ MicroCenter and $219.99 @ Outlet PC online

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k
i5-4670k: $199.99 @ MicroCenter and $229.99 @ Outlet PC online

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz77xud3h
Gigabyte Z77-UD3H: $135.37 @ newegg

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz87xud3h
Gigabyte Z87-UD3H: $159.99 @ newegg

EDIT: Cheaper by $35.62

 

[spyguy001]

Alright, cool down. I changed the build to Ivy. There is room in the budget left still. The reason that i won't go for your ssd is that i find the ultra plus enough for me and i probably would not notice the difference between that and the other. Also, the Ultra plus is about $12 cheaper. Look at this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($78.16 @ NCIX)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($102.33 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.79 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($643.65 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($68.88 @ Canada Computers)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.50 @ Vuugo)
Monitor: Asus VE247H 23.6" Monitor ($154.99 @ Canada Computers)
Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Wired Gaming Keyboard ($74.99 @ NCIX)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Wired Laser Mouse ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Other: eForCity Headset ($11.00)
Other: HDMI Cable ($3.40)
Total: $1723.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-26 17:05 EDT-0400)

 

[brpeden82]

little bit of advice the MSI lightning GTX 770 is almost fast as reference GTX 780 for a lot of savings i have tried a PNY GTX 780 and MSI Lightning GTX 770 the difference is not worth $200. a 780 for 1080P is not required but if you have money it your choice. trying help you save money. the MSI Lightning GTX 770 sales for $450

 

[spyguy001]

Can i see the benchmarks for that? Do you have a link? Also, if i SLI the 780, ohhhhhhhh... Well, no space for the 690 anywhere. I might be convinced of the performance with the link, but that is very, very unlikely. As another advantage, the 780 also uses the GK110. I dunno, it just really appeals to me.

 

[brpeden82]

i dont have any benchmarks it just personal experience of course every game is different. but hey buy a gtx 780 it awesome

 

[spyguy001]

I really can't wait.

 

[8350rocks]

If you still have room in your budget, you could always get a Blu-Ray drive...that's money you might be happy you spent later down the road as Blu-Ray becomes more common.

 

[Tavo_Nova]

OMG I can't believe I read all this stuff from start to finish, seeing as how your budget from mid range went up to high end. btw that last build posted with a 780 is good, just trigger the gun already. its' a good enough system. with great parts.

 

[spyguy001]

I will add a Blu-Ray drive too. Seeing as future proof is the goal, i will try to. Eh, if it isn't over-budget that is. Just don't offer any more costly collectibles, heh.

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/spyguy001/saved/21iS

 

[8350rocks]

The only nitpick I have, is that the 850W PSU you picked is pretty pricey for a bronze rated unit. Corsair is good, the Wattage is a bit overkill on that one...you could likely get a 750-800W Gold rated PSU from a good manufacturer for the $120 you're spending on the bronze rated Corsair unit.

 

[spyguy001]

I'll try to research a bit more PSU's and choose a better one. I think i'll end up picking up the rosewill hive again.

 

[ballerslife]

Well, be skeptical all you want, but HD 9970 Engineering samples are already at vendors...Sapphire is even testing them with consumers at this point. I think it's entirely realistic to expect them 2-3 months from now.

However, what do I know, I am a game developer...and AMD has already hinted that BF4 Launch will be bundled with HD 9970.

OMG I can't believe I read all this stuff from start to finish, seeing as how your budget from mid range went up to high end. btw that last build posted with a 780 is good, just trigger the gun already. its' a good enough system. with great parts.

Ikr, this thread has been going on since April lol.

 

[spyguy001]

Well, be skeptical all you want, but HD 9970 Engineering samples are already at vendors...Sapphire is even testing them with consumers at this point. I think it's entirely realistic to expect them 2-3 months from now.

However, what do I know, I am a game developer...and AMD has already hinted that BF4 Launch will be bundled with HD 9970.

OMG I can't believe I read all this stuff from start to finish, seeing as how your budget from mid range went up to high end. btw that last build posted with a 780 is good, just trigger the gun already. its' a good enough system. with great parts.

Ikr, this thread has been going on since April lol.

If AMD flips the lid off their next gen GPU's, it's going to go on even longer. Wow, almost a month away till i order. I just have to wait for August 15 for my perfect system.

 

[spyguy001]

Check this: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/spyguy001/saved/21iS

All that relatively in budget too.

 

[SamGriffiths]

Since you don't do your research at all:

http://www.dailytech.com/Report+Intel+Delays+14+nm+Broadwell+Schedules+Haswell+Refresh+for+2014/article31770.htm

Thus for 2014 Intel won't be offering a die shrink, but a breather "Haswell refresh". In some regards this will likely be similar to NVIDIA Corp.'s (NVDA) GeForce 700 Series, which kept the same core designs and process node (28 nm), but rebranded parts, shuffling higher performance parts to lower price points.

http://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/Intel-Not-Releasing-14nm-Broadwell-CPUs-Next-Year-Haswell-and-Haswell-E-Will-Dominat

Intel has previously announced that Broadwell chips would be BGA only, which means that there would not be a traditional LGA socket-ed desktop part. Broadwell chips would only come soldered onto motherboards in bare-bones systems, laptops, and tablets for example.

Since these are such reliable sources on predicting the future I am emailing about of them for the lotto numbers too. I like how when you quote wiki it's a fact and when I quote wiki it's a lie.

 

[spyguy001]

Can i keep this from being war grounds? My poor build feels neglected of opinions.

 

[8350rocks]

Can i keep this from being war grounds? My poor build feels neglected of opinions.

Your build looks good in it's current state...good luck with it.

EDIT: You could find a kit of 1600 MHz Memory for similar money, and that would impact your performance positively.

 

[manofchalk]

Can i keep this from being war grounds?

Yes.
Everyone remember to keep the conversation civil and on topic.
After all, now there's a Mod watching over the thread

@Griffiths
I took the liberty of editing your post to remove the vulgarity and personal attack, needless to say don't do it again.

 

[spyguy001]

Yay! A mod. I feel popular. Anyways, i will try to find a kit of 1600 memory. I will edit the build once i do. Thanks.

EDIT: Nope, all 1600 16G memory kits are over a 100. I can deal with having 16GB on 1333.

 

[AxlFone]

Wow, this was best tread Iv read long time 😀

Can i post a build too?

😀 😀 😀
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1lXX6
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1lXX6/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1lXX6/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8B75-V ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($124.20 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Fractal Design Core 3000 USB 3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.94 @ Newegg)
Total: $1298.05
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-29 13:16 EDT-0400)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1230+V2+%40+3.30GHz

And hey here is some cheap memory : http://promotions.newegg.com/neemail/latest/index-landing.aspx

 

[spyguy001]

Thanks for the build and thanks for the memory. I really am fine with the 1333 16G though, so no need to worry over that. Glad you liked my thread. The other experienced builders could help with your build though.

 

[SamGriffiths]

Thanks for the build and thanks for the memory. I really am fine with the 1333 16G though, so no need to worry over that. Glad you liked my thread. The other experienced builders could help with your build though.

You really don't need 16 GB at all.