Is this a good gaming rig, nice for the next few years?

[spyguy001]

I would like to know if these specs can be good for a gaming pc. I am really new at this and i want to build a good gaming pc that is preferably better than the ps4 specs and will last me a few years without upgrading anything. Also, the link is here:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7782889&sku=B69-1560

I am grateful for any additional info you guys could provide, for ex, how much will a pc cost minimally that will beat the ps4 or xbox720 specs and last about 1-3 years more with any new games on at least medium-high settings.

 

[spyguy001]

Power eater, if you really are serious, then i can take away the possibility of SLI entirely. I'll try that out then. See if the cost is any lower... again. Still, might save some money and will not lose much productivity.

 

[Power eater]

look at benchmarks of your resolution and try to find out how much Fps on LOW setting youd get with that card.

 

[spyguy001]

But can it play minecraft?

 

[Power eater]

what can play minecraft? a 780? ARE YOU SERIOUS? a gts 520 could run it on ultra with like a milion FPS (its not a demanding game and i like to exagerate.

 

[SamGriffiths]

Power eater, if you really are serious, then i can take away the possibility of SLI entirely. I'll try that out then. See if the cost is any lower... again. Still, might save some money and will not lose much productivity.

what can play minecraft? a 780? ARE YOU SERIOUS? a gts 520 could run it on ultra with like a milion FPS (its not a demanding game and i like to exagerate.

Minecraft is more CPU driven, I've run Minecraft with a HD 5450 (Terrible, Awful GPU) with 70 FPS because that system had 2 Xeons in it.

 

[tadej petric]

Minecraft will be going like a jet dude specially beacuse of that Nvidia card you got there to boost everything. Your rig could run crysis 3 maxed (1080p) and your worried about minecraft...

But no, it cant last 70 years beacuse of thing called DirectX. Since there is a new version every couple of years and the only way to use new one (12, 13 and so on but not 11.1, 11.2...) is to buy a new GPU. Sure some games still use DX9, but many of them use 11 and 10 only so buyers of cards at that time cant play them.
And it wont last 70 years anyway. Ive got a 10 year old rig that was just waaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuuwwwwwww at release. Now it struggles to play any game newer than 2005. It still works and all that but its no match to new games.
+ 70 years is quite a long time for anything looking at that 70 years ago (WW2 time) there was a supercomputer (for its time it kinda was) that was used to calculate nuclear reactions. Now every a little better phone beats it. And while were at WW2 I have to say that scientists are having a hard time finding non iron things from that time since theyre just gone. Turned into dirt if you want. Let that be magnetic discs (that cant be read anymore) or chlotes. After that period of time your computer will react with air anyway and wont be usefull anymore (-___-). Even if you put it into some place that it will survive it wont be able to run the web beacuse tech gets more demanding... Just look at pages from 2000.
Im giving your PC 10 years at DX11 games at low settings.

 

[spyguy001]

Well, then 10 years is enough for me. How about with SLI added in? keeping in mind that all i am going to use it on is the 1080p monitor.

Hmmm, seems that it can play minecraft pretty well... How about minesweeper though? I heard that game is quite demanding. I am worried that even a 780 and 4670k all OC'ed will be able to get at least 30 fps...

 

[tadej petric]

Well, then 10 years is enough for me. How about with SLI added in? keeping in mind that all i am going to use it on is the 1080p monitor.

Hmmm, seems that it can play minecraft pretty well... How about minesweeper though? I heard that game is quite demanding. I am worried that even a 780 and 4670k all OC'ed will be able to get at least 30 fps...

After 10 years you wont be able to find any 780 on the market worth buying and even if you will found it it wont help much.

But minesweeper (usuall windows version) works with refresh on click (which doesnt count as frame per second) so everyone gets 0fps 😀
But if it would run normally it would lagg as hell at beggining...
... if you have minefield over 9 gazillion * over 9 gazillion.

I might have taken this too seriouslly.

 

[spyguy001]

Well, nice to see the neighborhood graphics expert teaching us his ways.

 

[Power eater]

minesweeper... takke 4 titans and get 50 fps! not really) it bugs me that such game is so demanding

 

[ballerslife]

when are you buying your rig?

 

[Sernafied]

Man, if you're trying to futureproof for four years it's my suggestion you blow a big wad now.

My specs including monitor, sound, mouse, keyboard, and gamepad:
i7 3770K running stock most of the time, but an OC of 4.4 when I'm feeling speedy 😀
ASUS p8z77-v-le (not the best, but functionally sound)
16GB of Corsair Dominator @ 1600 9-9-9-24 2t (haven't changed timings)
nVidia GTX 690 running stock
Corsair Neutron 240GB SSD boot and game drive
1TB WD black storage for music, photos, etc...
1050W Corsair pro 80+ silver which is more than enough for what I've got, and should withstand degredation over the next few years
Razer black widow keyboard (<3 membrane! 😀)
Razer Naga elite mmo mouse
Razer Nostromo gamepad
Afterglow wireless headset
Bose Companion 5 speakers
BenQ XL2720T 27" 120Hz monitor.

whole setup was about 4.5K including the monitor, sound system, and all other peripherals. My justification came from my old rig which was built around an i7 2600K, 8GB, and a Radeon HD 6850. I could play games(BF3, Crysis 2, SC2, GW2) on low/medium settings with manageable frame rates, but I couldn't max anything out with any semblance of respectable FPS. So I figured I'd blow a bunch of cash on a system that can max anything @ stock settings and still maintain around 90 FPS which is what my system does. When I OC my ram and my cpu, my load times and fps improve a bit.

So if futureproofing is your goal, up your budget. If you're working on a budget that you can't bump a bit, shoot for a year or two. If your system can handle new releases at max settings running at stock, then you're good. Keep the overclocks as your ace in the hole instead of blowing another 2 grand in upgrades next year.

 

[tadej petric]

Dude, your build is fine as it is!
As you said you want to play minecraft. My friend with an i3 LAPTOP and integrated GPU can play it...
Ive got an i5 and gtx 660 and I play all games I tried at my Vsync limit (60fps) maxed. And I played games like GTA IV, GTA EFLC, Skyrim, Civ V, Max Payne 3 (AAA titles sure more demanding than MC). except for war thunder that runs 250fps maxed cuz I cant seem to find Vsync (it works that good unless if I touch my internet and it stops...).
I tried game engines like UDK and it doesnt lagg even with real time on.
Sure, I run on 1024p screen but all those games would run fast even on 1080p.
Your rig is good as we said before. If it will go like that than your rig will be:
intel i234513 34854387340lkj
gtx 2871867697187280
3674371368736TB ram at 7438743487818 THz
813745173845438TB RD (random drive)
Asus p3713861z3681873415
... You see where Im going 😉

 

[spyguy001]

Yes, i get it. Future proofing, or rather, future-resisting is my goal. I just want better fps than my e-300 and 6310 laptop, and hearing that pc games get more demanding each year, i want to keep those fps for as long as i can. Now, after 3 weeks of no internet, i finally had the sense to get off my high horse and get something that i actually need. I have decided that i will go for the best version of the 770. Also, after my unrelenting appeal to the higher authorities, The Fractal R4 is my case. I don't want maxed out setting for the next 5 years or something, as that is a stupid endeavor IMO. So, as long as my system can play the games at even the lowest settings at 18 fps for the next 5 years, it's all i need. But still, i want something respectable and the 770 seems to do the job. It's another matter entirely if the 9970 is $500. I will get it if that is, as i am planning to buy the GPU last as to increase my chances of getting the 9970. Also, when it comes to when i am buying, what i am doing is that starting now, i am going to buy a part when it seems cheaper or is on a sale. If i can find better or equal parts cheaper or on a sale, YAY.

 

[8350rocks]

Yes, i get it. Future proofing, or rather, future-resisting is my goal. I just want better fps than my e-300 and 6310 laptop, and hearing that pc games get more demanding each year, i want to keep those fps for as long as i can. Now, after 3 weeks of no internet, i finally had the sense to get off my high horse and get something that i actually need. I have decided that i will go for the best version of the 770. Also, after my unrelenting appeal to the higher authorities, The Fractal R4 is my case. I don't want maxed out setting for the next 5 years or something, as that is a stupid endeavor IMO. So, as long as my system can play the games at even the lowest settings at 18 fps for the next 5 years, it's all i need. But still, i want something respectable and the 770 seems to do the job. It's another matter entirely if the 9970 is $500. I will get it if that is, as i am planning to buy the GPU last as to increase my chances of getting the 9970. Also, when it comes to when i am buying, what i am doing is that starting now, i am going to buy a part when it seems cheaper or is on a sale. If i can find better or equal parts cheaper or on a sale, YAY.

HD 9970 Launch is 25 Sep 2013, should be available in retail outlets in early/mid October. Expected retail MSRP is $499-549 depending on manufacturer and features.

 

[SamGriffiths]

I wouldn't go and buy the 9970 right away... It MIGHT be be a flop, also drivers are going to be an issue for about a months so I would wait and to see some benchmarks and stuff.

 

[spyguy001]

Alright then, i will get the 9970. Here is what i have if your information is correct. If it is not, i will go for the 770 Lighting.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.32 @ TigerDirect Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($31.06 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($64.30 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Sandisk Extreme 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($100.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.79 @ DirectCanada)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN851ND 802.11b/g/n PCI Wi-Fi Adapter ($19.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($103.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.79 @ DirectCanada)
Monitor: AOC E2460SD 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($129.00 @ Canada Computers)
Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow 2013 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($89.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Wired Laser Mouse ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Speakers: Logitech LS21 7W 2.1ch Speakers ($24.99 @ Canada Computers)
Headphones: Genius Lychas HS G550 Headset ($29.99 @ Memory Express)
Other: Radeon HD R9-9970 ($549.99)
Total: $1738.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-27 22:17 EDT-0400)

Not too sure about the Wifi card and the monitor, but it seems fine now.

 

[ballerslife]

If you play a lot of FPS games, and also want to cheat discretely, then I would recommend the A4Tech Oscar x7 mouse. Not only is on par with Razer standards, it has a built-in macro that allows for no recoil on any gun. I mainly play BF3, and once I got this mouse I downloaded a few macros on it, and it worked beautifully. Not only that but it's forever undetected. Again this is only if you're into hard-core FPS games. And it's also a mere $30.

 

[spyguy001]

Hell yes Cheaper, Cheater, and Quality! Sign me up! Now if it's only as big as the Razer would it be a perfect deal. I'm not really into hardcore FPS but it seems like a good deal non the less.

 

[8350rocks]

I wouldn't go and buy the 9970 right away... It MIGHT be be a flop, also drivers are going to be an issue for about a months so I would wait and to see some benchmarks and stuff.

LOL...just like the 7970 GHz was a flop too right? Oh wait...it was more powerful than the 680.

 

[SamGriffiths]

I wouldn't go and buy the 9970 right away... It MIGHT be be a flop, also drivers are going to be an issue for about a months so I would wait and to see some benchmarks and stuff.

LOL...just like the 7970 GHz was a flop too right? Oh wait...it was more powerful than the 680.

Like I said, might. Nice to see you read and fully understand comments before you make an immature reply. All I was saying is don't go out and buy any hardware in the first month of release just in case it is a flop.

 

[8350rocks]

I wouldn't go and buy the 9970 right away... It MIGHT be be a flop, also drivers are going to be an issue for about a months so I would wait and to see some benchmarks and stuff.

LOL...just like the 7970 GHz was a flop too right? Oh wait...it was more powerful than the 680.

Like I said, might. Nice to see you read and fully understand comments before you make an immature reply. All I was saying is don't go out and buy any hardware in the first month of release just in case it is a flop.

GPUs don't flop...

Well...not because of performance anyway. Some manufacturers might offer a GPU for $1000 that has a massive monolithic die GPU and offers performance similar to what a solution for considerably less money offers...therefore pricing themselves out of the market. That can lead to companies that lay off entire teams of engineers, scrap upcoming product lines and entirely cancel their next gen GPU process...which leads to them offering their last gen technology as a rebranded refresh and praying that it will get them through. All of that, while the world waits for the latest and greatest from the competition, that is already taking back market share and their new product is yet to be released. (See: NVidia for examples of all of that happening.)

 

[SamGriffiths]

I wouldn't go and buy the 9970 right away... It MIGHT be be a flop, also drivers are going to be an issue for about a months so I would wait and to see some benchmarks and stuff.

LOL...just like the 7970 GHz was a flop too right? Oh wait...it was more powerful than the 680.

Like I said, might. Nice to see you read and fully understand comments before you make an immature reply. All I was saying is don't go out and buy any hardware in the first month of release just in case it is a flop.

GPUs don't flop...

Well...not because of performance anyway. Some manufacturers might offer a GPU for $1000 that has a massive monolithic die GPU and offers performance similar to what a solution for considerably less money offers...therefore pricing themselves out of the market. That can lead to companies that lay off entire teams of engineers, scrap upcoming product lines and entirely cancel their next gen GPU process...which leads to them offering their last gen technology as a rebranded refresh and praying that it will get them through. All of that, while the world waits for the latest and greatest from the competition, that is already taking back market share and their new product is yet to be released. (See: NVidia for examples of all of that happening.)

Fanboy much <.<

That has nothing to do with not buying a product at launch.

 

[8350rocks]

I wouldn't go and buy the 9970 right away... It MIGHT be be a flop, also drivers are going to be an issue for about a months so I would wait and to see some benchmarks and stuff.

LOL...just like the 7970 GHz was a flop too right? Oh wait...it was more powerful than the 680.

Like I said, might. Nice to see you read and fully understand comments before you make an immature reply. All I was saying is don't go out and buy any hardware in the first month of release just in case it is a flop.

GPUs don't flop...

Well...not because of performance anyway. Some manufacturers might offer a GPU for $1000 that has a massive monolithic die GPU and offers performance similar to what a solution for considerably less money offers...therefore pricing themselves out of the market. That can lead to companies that lay off entire teams of engineers, scrap upcoming product lines and entirely cancel their next gen GPU process...which leads to them offering their last gen technology as a rebranded refresh and praying that it will get them through. All of that, while the world waits for the latest and greatest from the competition, that is already taking back market share and their new product is yet to be released. (See: NVidia for examples of all of that happening.)

Fanboy much <.<

That has nothing to do with not buying a product at launch.

No, I was expounding on why it was such a foolish idea to price a GPU out of the market and the repercussions it can have when such a "halo" product "flops". The $1000 Titan accounts for less than 0.5% of NVidia's sales...I wonder why...?

EDIT: Also, not buying a product at launch isn't something that's terribly commendable anyway. Sure, I suppose you could hold off, but typically the reviews on the final product are out before the product even hits the shelves. You can usually make an informed decision from day one...look at the TH 4770k review. People knew what they were getting on day 1...some fools went and bought it anyway...but that's another matter.

 

[DarylEPerez]

It's outdated already! Your video card will not hold up to games like Battlefield 3, imagine if you plan to buy Battlefield 4. Besides, your PSU will not help AT ALL for future upgrades such as Video Cards or CPU.

Be more specific and I would help with components, for now take a look at this system. Makes a total of 800$ and up-gradable for future needs:

PCU: Intel Core i5 4570 HASEWALL 3.2Ghz / AMD FX-8350
RAM: Corsair 4GBx2 1600Mhz DDR3
Motherboard: Gigabyte H87M-D3H / ASUS M5a97 r2.0
GPU: Gigabyte GTX770 2GB GDDR5
Case: Phantom's series
PSU: corsair tx650
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM