Is this a good gaming rig, nice for the next few years?

[spyguy001]

I would like to know if these specs can be good for a gaming pc. I am really new at this and i want to build a good gaming pc that is preferably better than the ps4 specs and will last me a few years without upgrading anything. Also, the link is here:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7782889&sku=B69-1560

I am grateful for any additional info you guys could provide, for ex, how much will a pc cost minimally that will beat the ps4 or xbox720 specs and last about 1-3 years more with any new games on at least medium-high settings.

 

[ballerslife]

The Seasonic PSU is good
Get the Samsung 840 Pro series or OCZ Vector, they are the fastest SSDs on the market

 

[spyguy001]

How are the lifespans of the 840 pro ssd`s, i do want to know. Also, Is there any difference between the xfx radeon 7970 and the gigabyte one, as the xfx one is cheaper.

 

[SamGriffiths]

How are the lifespans of the 840 pro ssd`s, i do want to know. Also, Is there any difference between the xfx radeon 7970 and the gigabyte one, as the xfx one is cheaper.

XFX run hot from what I've heard, also there's some Bios problems, but nothing that a quick flash wont fix, other than that they're about the same. There are plenty of good SSD's I just recommended the HyperX 3K because it's fast as hell and I've spoke to someone who's has like 9 of them and none of them have failed. The Seasonic PSU is good too, Corsair TX and GX power supplies are nice too, try to get one with a single 12v rail, and that is at least 80 PLUS Bronze.

 

[spyguy001]

I am getting the kingston hyperx 3k, so thats fine. I just read that the gigabyte radeon 7970 card is voltage locked and only .05 ghz better than the xfx. Wouldn`t it be better for me to get the xfx instead of the others? Also, are the rebates on the items long-lasting?

 

[spyguy001]

Here`s the build.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/spyguy001/saved/1tUl

Can you guys find any faults or bad quality now, or recommend something better?

 

[ballerslife]

Samsungs SSDs are much more reliable and faster than Kingston. Either that or the OCZ Vertex 4

XFX isn't really known for quality, you should get a Gigabyte or Sapphire

 

[SamGriffiths]

I am getting the kingston hyperx 3k, so thats fine. I just read that the gigabyte radeon 7970 card is voltage locked and only .05 ghz better than the xfx. Wouldn`t it be better for me to get the xfx instead of the others? Also, are the rebates on the items long-lasting?

It's luck of the draw weather it's voltage locked or not, there are ways around it but they are not fun or safe, unless you're going to water cool your GPU or you live in Alaska so you can overclock to insane amounts a voltage lock isn't a problem. All three are very good SSDs so I would get which ever one is cheapest, personally I don't see the point in SSDs right now, they're over priced and don't do much over a WD Caviar Black or a Seagate Barracuda 6Gb/s 64MB.

 

[spyguy001]

The thing is, i am good on buying gigabyte but it costs more than the xfx at very less performance upgrades. What about the new gpus coming out though? Do you think i will get better performance with them? On the same price? The ssd's let me boot up, and open apps faster. That seems like a big boon to me with my crappy e-300 with radeon 6310 laptop i have right now. The thing is, that the 840 pro series are no where near my price range right now.

 

[SamGriffiths]

The thing is, i am good on buying gigabyte but it costs more than the xfx at very less performance upgrades. What about the new gpus coming out though? Do you think i will get better performance with them? On the same price? The ssd's let me boot up, and open apps faster. That seems like a big boon to me with my crappy e-300 with radeon 6310 laptop i have right now. The thing is, that the 840 pro series are no where near my price range right now.

My friend built a PC a little while ago, with an FX-6300, a Gigabyte 7950, 8 GB of RAM and a Seagate Barracud, he put Windows 7 Ultimate on it, from him pressing the power button to him being able to open Google Chrome is about 40 seconds, the most resent HDDs are very good. When it comes to the new GPUs, you're going to get the same performance for more money, say the HD 8850 will be as fast as the HD 7970 but will cost like $500, there's also going to be bugs and massive driver problems to start off with as there always is with new tech.

 

[spyguy001]

Alright, while i am doubtful that i would get the same results, i will take away the ssd and that will give me more room for the gpu and hdd. The option is looking better by the second. A question, does the browser open to the homepage or just load with the white window for a lot of time?

 

[SamGriffiths]

Alright, while i am doubtful that i would get the same results, i will take away the ssd and that will give me more room for the gpu and hdd. The option is looking better by the second. A question, does the browser open to the homepage or just load with the white window for a lot of time?

Don't get my wrong an SSD is faster but it's not that much faster that I see it being worth the money, if I were to have say a £2000 budget I would get an SSD, but not at a lower budget. Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox are both customisable to where they go when launched, Mozilla has a lot more other things you can customise but Chrome is very plug and pay, personally I use Chrome, I have it start up on a blank page and I have a bookmark bar with loads of links on it (Google, YouTube, Facebook, Minecraft and a few others), but that's just how I like it.

 

[spyguy001]

I'm fine with that. What else would you suggest? What hdd would you suggest that can be near that fast and not that pricey?

 

[ballerslife]

The SSD is fine in your budget. It is also very fast, 20 to 40 times faster than the traditional HDD. I say that you should definitely get it.

 

[spyguy001]

I m going to think more on that then. I really do want a speedy pc. But, the budget is what i am worried about. Also, do you think that i will have to change my RAM or my cpu cooler when the haswell ones come out?

 

[SamGriffiths]

I m going to think more on that then. I really do want a speedy pc. But, the budget is what i am worried about. Also, do you think that i will have to change my RAM or my cpu cooler when the haswell ones come out?

With an i5 3570k and a HD 7970 you're PC will be lightning fast any way, I mean if you want to get an SSD, go for it, but it's not going to help you in games, you're going to have to worry about what Hard Drive to install your stuff on, however the programs and files that you have stored on the SSD will open faster and load faster but it wont effect your FPS in games.

I don't know much about Haswell, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you will need to change your Motherboard, maybe your RAM if you're unlucky (something to do with Voltage), and maybe your PSU (nobody really knows), but I think that the 212 EVO will still work.

 

[tadej petric]

I am ready to change it now. I am confused though, as tadej says that the psu is good enough.

PSU is good for 4-5 years with constant 100% load just dont get it too hot and dont make huge overclocks.
TX and AX versions are better but cx 600 (m if modular) is enough.
Seasonics got some nice models too but I really dont know much about them.

 

[tadej petric]

I m going to think more on that then. I really do want a speedy pc. But, the budget is what i am worried about. Also, do you think that i will have to change my RAM or my cpu cooler when the haswell ones come out?

With an i5 3570k and a HD 7970 you're PC will be lightning fast any way, I mean if you want to get an SSD, go for it, but it's not going to help you in games, you're going to have to worry about what Hard Drive to install your stuff on, however the programs and files that you have stored on the SSD will open faster and load faster but it wont effect your FPS in games.

I don't know much about Haswell, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you will need to change your Motherboard, maybe your RAM if you're unlucky (something to do with Voltage), and maybe your PSU (nobody really knows), but I think that the 212 EVO will still work.

CPU, mobo and cooler (usually) needs change.

Sorry if this will be double post!

 

[SamGriffiths]

I m going to think more on that then. I really do want a speedy pc. But, the budget is what i am worried about. Also, do you think that i will have to change my RAM or my cpu cooler when the haswell ones come out?

With an i5 3570k and a HD 7970 you're PC will be lightning fast any way, I mean if you want to get an SSD, go for it, but it's not going to help you in games, you're going to have to worry about what Hard Drive to install your stuff on, however the programs and files that you have stored on the SSD will open faster and load faster but it wont effect your FPS in games.

I don't know much about Haswell, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you will need to change your Motherboard, maybe your RAM if you're unlucky (something to do with Voltage), and maybe your PSU (nobody really knows), but I think that the 212 EVO will still work.

CPU, mobo and cooler (usually) needs change.

Sorry if this will be double post!

Yeah Tom's needs the ability to double quote in one post easily, I don't know if they will make the CPU cooler holes on the new socket compatible with old coolers, I hope they do.

 

[spyguy001]

JUST WAIT A SECOND THERE! I was thinking that the ssd will open all my programs lightning quick, even the ones on the hdd. I do like the psu. I hope it will be able to survive the constant use i will put it under.
" I don't know if they will make the CPU cooler holes on the new socket compatible with old coolers, I hope they do." Me too. That will make my build and work easier. They probably will, though, its not like their going to release their chips with no cooler other than their available to cool it. That could anger a lot of people.

 

[SamGriffiths]

JUST WAIT A SECOND THERE! I was thinking that the ssd will open all my programs lightning quick, even the ones on the hdd. I do like the psu. I hope it will be able to survive the constant use i will put it under.
" I don't know if they will make the CPU cooler holes on the new socket compatible with old coolers, I hope they do." Me too. That will make my build and work easier. They probably will, though, its not like their going to release their chips with no cooler other than their available to cool it. That could anger a lot of people.

Well the thing is with this build you wont need to upgrade for a long time anyway, this will be a good PC for at least 4 years so you don't have to worry about Haswell just yet =P. All an SSD is, is just a faster Hard Drive with no moving parts, files and programs on it load up faster but that's it, if you put a game on it, say Battlefield 3 the maps will load in faster but you will still get the same FPS.

 

[spyguy001]

SO, will it not load all my applications on the hdd faster?

 

[spyguy001]

Explain this please: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eu8Sekdb-IE

 

[SamGriffiths]

I have already linked that video in this thread when all the fan boys were going crazy, =P, the FX-8350 is as good if not better than the i5 3570k and it's cheaper.

Yes, an SSD will only improve the load times of files save to it.

I made up a FX-8350 build for you in case you wanted one.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($193.98 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($179.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.19 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Performance Edition (2-Pack) 63.5 CFM 120mm Fans ($26.98 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($64.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.94 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VH238H 23.0" Monitor ($144.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Wired Gaming Keyboard ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($52.99 @ NCIX US)
Speakers: Creative Labs A60 4W 2ch Speakers ($19.55 @ Amazon)
Total: $1517.52
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-13 18:57 EDT-0400)

 

[spyguy001]

I just saved that in my partpicker. Although, i plan on replacing the sabertooth and cpu with the haswells. The others seen fine though. Thanks.

 

[SamGriffiths]

I just saved that in my partpicker. Although, i plan on replacing the sabertooth and cpu with the haswells. The others seen fine though. Thanks.

So you're going to wait for Haswell before you build?