is this a good gtx 1070 build?

[GamerDylan]

Hi,

Im trying to figure out what my very first pc build will be with the new gtx 1070. Ways to keep the cost down are welcome! This is my first time building a pc so please be understanding if I make some mistakes. My build:

OPTION A: Total: €1325
-i7 6700k
-Cooler Master Seidon 120V Rev. 2
-gtx 1070 (asus strix if they announce it?)
-Gskill 16gb 2400mhz
-adata premier sp550 120gb ssd
-1tb WD blue
-Asus z170 pro gaming
-seasonic s12II 520 EVO
-nzxt s340

OPTION B: Total: €1160
Same as option A but the following changes:
-i7 6700k-> i7 6700 (non-K)
-Liquid cooled-> stock cooler
-asus z170->MSI b150m PRO-VD

OPTION C: Total: €1030
-i5 6500
-WD blue 1tb
-MSI b150M PRO-VD
-gskill 16gb 2133 ram
-adata premiere sp550 120gb ssd
-nzxt s340
-seasonic s12II 520 EVO
-gtx 1070

Curious to get some feedback of you guys! Thanks in advance

EDIT: changed some parts on your recommendation

 

[GamerDylan]

Is this mainly for gaming and are you going to overclock?

Yes, mainly for gaming and normal multitasking. Dual monitor setup. Also some photo and casual video editing. Im fine with overclocking if it yields more fps. I want to get as much fps as possible out of the 1070.

 

[GamerDylan]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($61.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($33.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: PNY CS1311 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($37.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: DIYPC Solo-T1-BK ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.89 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($53.98 @ Newegg)
Other: GTX 1070 ($379.99)
Total: $840.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-30 08:41 EDT-0400

Ive added a similar setup to this in the main thread. How does this look? Don't think I can get the prices quite there because of the prices in my country....

EDIT: I want a nice looking case so I chose the s340 and 16gb of ram seemed safer to me

Also, What is the difference in my original chosen MOBO and this one?

 

[BadActor]

The B150 motherboards have fewer features and are therefore cheaper. They can't overclock, have fewer USB and Sata ports, no RAID or SLI, use 2133 RAM, etc. The i5 sound like it will be more than enough for what you're going to do. Overclocking will give you more FPS, but the 1070 is going to have incredible frame rates, and if you are only going to be using a 1080p monitor, I would just go with option C (which comes with a stock cooler BTW).

 

[GamerDylan]

The B150 motherboards have fewer features and are therefore cheaper. They can't overclock, have fewer USB and Sata ports, no RAID or SLI, use 2133 RAM, etc. The i5 sound like it will be more than enough for what you're going to do. Overclocking will give you more FPS, but the 1070 is going to have incredible frame rates, and if you are only going to be using a 1080p monitor, I would just go with option C (which comes with a stock cooler BTW).

Makes sense. However I might get a 1440p or 144hz monitor in the upcoming months. That's why I want to get the most fps possible. If the only bottlenecks would be the 6500 and the ram that could be solved for another €110 or so for the 6600k, cryorig h7 and 3200mhz ram. Would that make sense or is it a waste of money?

EDIT: €180 or so. Need to get another mobo for overclocking

 

[BadActor]

If you can afford it, giving yourself the option of overclocking does make sense. Better performance, more motherboard features, plus, it's just fun to do.

 

[GamerDylan]

If you can afford it, giving yourself the option of overclocking does make sense. Better performance, more motherboard features, plus, it's just fun to do.

I don't think ill be doing it for fun. I just want the best performance. Sure I could afford it. If I stretch my budget enough I could also get option A... but that leaves me less money for other things... + it's just a lot of money. That's why im considering the €1000 option.... Just need to know if it will give me all the power of the 1070+high fps

EDIT: ill be playing games like gtaV, battlefield 1, overwatch, battlefield 4, doom, star wars battlefront etc on 1080p and possibly 1440p soon and I want to play ultra settings 100+fps 1080p and I guess 80+fps 1440p

I also want to be able to sustain similar results over the upcoming years...

 

[GamerDylan]

I changed the Option A a bit so it has come down in price. I might be able to get it to €1300 if I look at other options but keep the main parts like this. Does that option make sense if I, like I said before, want to play games at high fps and quality in years time. (future proofing)

 

[Icaraeus]

No such thing as future proofing. The GTX 1080 will struggle heavily to run many newer games that will release within the next few years.

 

[GamerDylan]

No such thing as future proofing. The GTX 1080 will struggle heavily to run many newer games that will release within the next few years.

I get that. But looking at the rest of the build? the 1070 could always be replaced after a few years if needed but not the whole system...

 

[Icaraeus]

I would personally try and get a 250GiB Samsung 840/850 solid state drive if you can afford.

 

[GamerDylan]

I would personally try and get a 250GiB Samsung 840/850 solid state drive if you can afford.

Hmmm.. If not would that be a real problem? and is for example the cheapest of my configs worth it in the long run?

 

[Icaraeus]

You'd be surprised how easily you can fill even a 120GiB SSD. I have barely anything on my SSD (well, not exactly -- but I have OS + my applications and I have only 40GiB remaining). I guess if you use lots of applications at once or do video editing, scripting, stuff.. you could get 16GiB system RAM. You'll inevitably need more than 8GiB RAM one day -- but not necessarily right now. There's no real thing as future proofing, remember

 

[GamerDylan]

You'd be surprised how easily you can fill even a 120GiB SSD. I have barely anything on my SSD (well, not exactly -- but I have OS + my applications and I have only 40GiB remaining). I guess if you use lots of applications at once or do video editing, scripting, stuff.. you could get 16GiB system RAM. You'll inevitably need more than 8GiB RAM one day -- but not necessarily right now. There's no real thing as future proofing, remember

But with the i7 for example wont it be able to handle games a little longer? given the hyperthreading for example. And yes the ssd is small. Maybe ill get a 240gb one instead but I also have the 1tb HDD for other stuff. My old current desktop has a 1tb drive which isnt even close to full after years of usage.

 

[stavrosmast]

Gta v 80-100fps with gtx 1070

That is just not possible with a 6500... Especially in the future.,..

I have i5-4460/gtx 960 and in gta v my 4460 is maxed out and in vids usually the i7s are used almost 50% in gta v..

And Since you will have such a high end gpu and you want a lot more than 60fps the i5 would really be a bottleneck

You dont neceserly need to OC an i7..

 

[GamerDylan]

Gta v 80-10fps with gtx 1070

That is just not possible with a 6500... Especially in the future.,..

I have i5-4460/gtx 960 and in gta v my 4460 is maxed out and in vids usually the i7s are used almost 50% in gta v..

And Since you will have such a high end gpu and you want a lot more than 60fps the i5 would really be a bottleneck

You dont neceserly need to OC an i7..

So option A would be best? the difference in the non K version is €20 and the benefit of the extra €40-50 for water cooling is that it looks cool. Also, getting some extra performance for that amount of money wont be so bad right? Might be able to get that for around €1300.

 

[stavrosmast]

Sure sure all these loooook nice

But do you really need the extra performance?

 

[GamerDylan]

Sure sure all these loooook nice

But do you really need the extra performance?

As I said, if the i7 6700k and faster ram give me more (gaming) performance in the long run, it might be worth the extra €300 instead of having to upgrade them in a few years

 

[LongHotSummer]

To save money you can:

1 i5, not i7. i7 will help with video editing but you don't do that so much. Wont' see the difference in games.
2 Use the stock cooler for the processor and don't think about overclocking. Especially since your system is good and there doesn't seem to be a specific reason for you to overclock (and, you can break something when you overclock).
3 Consider 8 GB RAM although this will not save much money, but for games your fps would be the same.

And of course, wait for reviews on the 1070 before buying.

 

[GamerDylan]

To save money you can:

1 i5, not i7. i7 will help with video editing but you don't do that so much. Wont' see the difference in games.
2 Use the stock cooler for the processor and don't think about overclocking. Especially since your system is good and there doesn't seem to be a specific reason for you to overclock (and, you can break something when you overclock).
3 Consider 8 GB RAM although this will not save much money, but for games your fps would be the same.

And of course, wait for reviews on the 1070 before buying.

So option C would be best in your opinion? Initial reviews of the 1070 seem really good. Still doubting whether or not the 6500 will force me to upgrade mobo and processor sooner than the i7..

 

[LongHotSummer]

Yes, C. You can also consider the i5 4690 (found it for 222 euro, 3.5 ghz/ 3.9 boost), a bit faster than the 6500 but older. Value-wise the i7 isn't as good and won't prolong the life of the CPU that much (games prefer higher clock speed).

Anyways, if you go for i5, the 6500 is a solid choice.

 

[GamerDylan]

Yes, C. You can also consider the i5 4690 (found it for 222 euro, 3.5 ghz/ 3.9 boost), a bit faster than the 6500 but older. Value-wise the i7 isn't as good and won't prolong the life of the CPU that much (games prefer higher clock speed).

Anyways, if you go for i5, the 6500 is a solid choice.

What about games needing more than 4 cores more often? I imagine the i7 begin better for those. How about if I get the 6700 and ditch the watercooling? safes €80

 

[GamerDylan]

I changed option B to the i7 6700. How is this? I could perhaps use a cheaper MOBO if I go with the non overclockable and slower ram right? maybe the option C one? this would make the price €1160! Is the slower ram and non overclockability worth it?

 

[joex444]

I'd go with C but change the B150 board to an H110 board and bump up to a 240-250GB SSD.

 

[apk24]

Option C is the best value, a good balance in longevity and price. There is no such thing as future proofing, the best you can do is get the best value you can afford right now and keep an open upgrade path. Option C seems to do this best.

Option C but i5 replaced with i7-6700 (Is that what option B is?) might also offer good value, but not a whole lot of additional performance in gaming. Maybe use an H170 board instead of B150 to expand add on card and peripheral options to extend system life.

 

[GamerDylan]

I'd go with C but change the B150 board to an H110 board and bump up to a 240-250GB SSD.

What benefit would that give me over the B150 board?