is this DELL Ultra sharp U2410 good?

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My country have high taxes for monitors over 19"
This is used monitor which is available for cheap price
Is this good for 1080p gaming?
I have 0 knowledge about monitors
If this isn't good
What kind of things i have to consider when buying a monitor?
 
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I bought an IPS panel (1920x1200) because I really don't like the narrow viewing angles of TN panels.
Many moan about the response time of IPS, but this is more from reading the comments of others who
say the same rather than via personal experience.

I bought an HP LP2475W, later a Dell 24" and Dell 27" 1440p, all IPS, and am very happy with them for
gaming, which for me is mostly slightly older FPS plus the odd sandbox RPG (Stalker COP, Crysis, FC2,
Oblivion IV, Crysis Warhead, Crysis 2, and soon Elite Dangerous).

Assuming the monitor you can obtain does not have any flaws, I think you would be very happy with it.

High-refresh 'gaming' TN panels really only make sense for those who can build gaming PCs that will
provide the user...
I bought an IPS panel (1920x1200) because I really don't like the narrow viewing angles of TN panels.
Many moan about the response time of IPS, but this is more from reading the comments of others who
say the same rather than via personal experience.

I bought an HP LP2475W, later a Dell 24" and Dell 27" 1440p, all IPS, and am very happy with them for
gaming, which for me is mostly slightly older FPS plus the odd sandbox RPG (Stalker COP, Crysis, FC2,
Oblivion IV, Crysis Warhead, Crysis 2, and soon Elite Dangerous).

Assuming the monitor you can obtain does not have any flaws, I think you would be very happy with it.

High-refresh 'gaming' TN panels really only make sense for those who can build gaming PCs that will
provide the user with high minimum frame rates, and that's a fairly narrow crowd IMO. They may offer
a small advantage for competitive FPS online multiplayer gaming, but again I expect that's a minority
audience who have the time to put in a lot of gaming hours & thus can perfect their skills. If one wants
to have very high minimum visual quality, few people will notice the difference beyond a 60Hz display
in double-buffered mode where the minimum frame rates never drops below 60.

Note: if you ever wish to be able to 'demonstrate' things on your monitor to friends/family/etc., eg.
"Hey, come & have a look at this youtube clip!", then an IPS is definitely much better. Looking at a
TN panel from a side angle, trying to watch something with the colours all washed out, etc., is
really annoying.

Ian.

PS. Check the reviews on trustedreviews.com, eg. for the HP I mentioned, should give you a decent
overview of what IPS has to offer. I think the site has a review of the Dell 2410 aswell. One caveat:
cheaper IPS panels may compromise when it comes to available inputs, but the 2410 is ok; I bought
one for my gf's PC setup aswell.



 
Solution
Two points I'd make in that regard:

1. I suspect it's the sort of situation where for those who spend seriously a lot of time doing FPS gaming,
they get very used to getting the absolute most out of their control systems, doing highly competitive online
multiplayer; Call of Duty, Halo, all that sort of thing. As they get better, they'll benefit more & more from
better quality gaming mice, keyboards, mbds with ultra low latency net links, etc. A bit like the way one
can get used to the quality of any display (I did, VR being my research field for a long time), such gamers
very likely notice the impact of lesser frame rates and lag as they improve, and thus wish to have higher
frame rates, faster response times, etc. TN panels certainly provide this, but it's always at the expense
of colour accuracy and viewing angles. However, for players at the top, the faster response times probably
are worth having, for that extra edge. It's a minority though. Btw, I sometimes wonder where the modern
peculiar FPS visual style of having rather garish unrealistic colours for explosions & urban environments is
a cheaty way of making up for the fact that TN panels have inferior colour reproduction (just a thought).

2. There's no point having high-frequency 'gaming' monitors (by that I mean anything significantly above 60Hz)
unless one's GPU setup is able to provide a minimum frame rate that's at least the monitor refresh for most of
the time. Depends on the game of course, but really we're talking top-end GPU setups, good CPU/mbd combo,
and so on. Thus, again it's a minority who can afford to put together such systems, presumably the same
people who have the time to spend on the relevant games, and the money to go with it (hmm, think 20s to
40s males without partners & thus salaries to burn. 😀)

Hence, I would say that the people who want these sort of setups for gaming very likely can tell the
difference, because of what and how they play. And if they're playing at 1440p or higher then the differences
are likely even more noticeable. For the average gamer though, at 1080p, probably not. Thus, a 60Hz display
with a GPU setup that can support 60Hz nicely would IMO be the sweet spot for most users. I'm just glad
IPS models have come down in price so much since I bought my HP, eg. the Dell is more than 50% cheaper.
Note that I prefer 1200-height displays because I find that extra height makes such a difference in so many
situations, especially for general desktop use, eg. web browsing, but games look better too. It's a pity that
the market erred towards 1080 as it meant pricing for 1200 displays stalled for a while, but if the OP can get
that Dell for a good price then go for it I say, s/he'll be plenty happy.

Ian.

 


First. As suggested in other replies choose technology TN / VA / IPS. Then, if you are interested in gaming monitor, pick one you like by looks -> find review which measures "input lag" (note: NOT response time!) Anything below one frame = 16.6 should be OK, the lower the better ofc (for example Dell U2414H which is IPS got 4ms, which is half of some "gaming" TNs out there). Lastly look at summary of colors, it usually sum it up in noob-friendly way(or compare gamma*the closer to 2.2 the better* and deltaE*the lower the better*). -> if something doesnt satisfy you, repeat

side note: response time tells you how much ghosting you can expect, not if the monitor is fast - 1ms is just marketing talk.
 

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