Question Is this means my cpu is bottle necking?

[vinchurkarsanket608]

I have i5 6402p
And gtx 1050 ti
I was getting less fps than it should be so i checked monitoring through msi after burner
And saw cpu usage was like 90- 100%
And GPU usage 70-80%
Is that me an my cpu is bottlenecking my gpu?
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[Obakasama]

Yes, your CPU is at full capacity while the GPU still has some headroom.

 

[CountMike]

With those numbers, whole system is "bottle-necking". I put it n quotes because it's kinda relative term, with some games there could be insufficiency of CPU, some of GPU, when you have both at same time, it's whole system.

 

[mdd1963]

Most modern games are not really thriving on 4c/4t CPUs, but, the 6400-series ought to be fairly close to maxing out/saturating a GTX1050Ti....

(It is likely not going to be cost effective or wise to sink more money into a 100/200 series mainboard, but, perhaps a fire-sale bargain on an i7-6700 or 7700 will pop up, which might help in the .1 and 1% frame rate lows and perhaps boost average FPS just a tad...)

However,....3 days until Ryzen5-3600!

 

[vinchurkarsanket608]

With those numbers, whole system is "bottle-necking". I put it n quotes because it's kinda relative term, with some games there could be insufficiency of CPU, some of GPU, when you have both at same time, it's whole system.

But it shouldn't be bottlenecking coz i researched online and saw every where that this combination was good and had less than 8% of bottleneck.So then too y is it having such a bottle neck that too in every game.i mean in 2016 this build was known to be a great one.

 

[vinchurkarsanket608]

But it shouldn't be bottlenecking coz i researched online and saw every where that this combination was good and had less than 8% of bottleneck.So then too y is it having such a bottle neck that too in every game.i mean in 2016 this build was known to be a great one

 

[CountMike]

But it shouldn't be bottlenecking coz i researched online and saw every where that this combination was good and had less than 8% of bottleneck.So then too y is it having such a bottle neck that too in every game.i mean in 2016 this build was known to be a great one.

It greatly depends on game and game settings just as much on hardware but with so much of CPU and GPU usage it seems that whole setup is inadequate.
So, which hardware are you talking about ? Year doesn't tell me anything.

 

[vinchurkarsanket608]

It greatly depends on game and game settings just as much on hardware but with so much of CPU and GPU usage it seems that whole setup is inadequate.
So, which hardware are you talking about ? Year doesn't tell me anything.

I don't know
Like my pc specs r as follows:
I5 6402p
Zotac gtx 1050 ti mini
Kingston hyper x 8gb ddr4 ram stick
Gigabyte H110m S2
Zebronics 450W Gold PSU
500 GB segate baracuda HDD+ 250 HDD(from my old PC)
What do u think would be the coz of bottlenecking?

 

[Rdslw]

I have i5 6402p
And gtx 1050 ti
I was getting less fps than it should be so i checked monitoring through msi after burner
And saw cpu usage was like 90- 100%
And GPU usage 70-80%
Is that me an my cpu is bottlenecking my gpu?
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its not a bottleneck. Parts are working mostly fully used, so it's a nice balance. (other games will end up with different percentages) bottleneck happen if you have 100 & 30% for example
if you have 8GB ram, grab another 8, it will lower the cpu stress (less thing will be recalculated, more will be cached) and it should be enough to end up with full usage on both.
If its still not enough for you, collect a lot of cash, upgrade will mean whole new platform.

 

[SkyNetRising]

What do u think would be the coz of bottlenecking?

Increase graphics quality settings/resolution in your game.
That will shift load to gpu with minimal impact to fps. GPU utilization will raise.

 

[Satan-IR]

I don't know
Like my pc specs r as follows:
I5 6402p
Zotac gtx 1050 ti mini
Kingston hyper x 8gb ddr4 ram stick
Gigabyte H110m S2
Zebronics 450W Gold PSU
500 GB segate baracuda HDD+ 250 HDD(from my old PC)
What do u think would be the coz of bottlenecking?

On a relatively off topic note, that is a very low quality PSU. I suggest you replace that with a good quality 450-500W unit first chance you get before it fails and fries your other components.

 

[boju]

Yeah, grab another 8gb stick. Not just for capacity (which'll benefit anyway) but more for dual channel improving the bandwidth between cpu and ram.

What are your cpu temps like while playing? Msi Afterburner has entries for temps and cpu clocks, might as well check them. Check temps and speeds are consistent.

What game is that in the screen shot?

As said, 4c cpus do find it tough nowadays. Dual channel should help, probably not completely but is a start. An i7 upgrade would fair much better.

Is there anything else you run in the background besides game? What are your cpu usages like when not doing anything?

Winaero can help cpu by temporarily disabling unnecessary services allocating more cpu time for games.

 

[Karadjgne]

Cpu can't bottleneck a gpu. A bottleneck is a component that slows down the flow of data. The cpu isn't slowing anything down, it's just not as fast as you want it to be.

Cpu pre-renders the game code and ships it to the gpu. It does this at 100% every time. If the game code is badly optimized, has high thread usage, long code strings etc it sends less frames as each frame takes longer to pre-render. But thats the limit. The gpu gets every frame the cpu sends, finish renders and puts it on screen according to details and resolution. A strong gpu will put up every frame at any detail setting and have room for more. A weak gpu will struggle to put up every frame at highest details, but have no issues at lower detail settings.

Usage is misleading. Usage is the amount of resources the cpu needs to use in order to pre-render a frame. CSGO is a 2 thread game. It has no support to use 3 threads. So on a quad core cpu it can max out 2 thread usage, yet have 2 threads doing nothing but windows background tasks. 100+100+30+30 =260 /4 =@ 62% usage, same applies to the gpu. It's like typing, you'll use 100% of the muscles in your hand but you don't use 100% of the muscle, or you'd break the keys slamming them as hard as possible. You only hit it as hard as needed. But you still have to use the same muscles no matter how hard or soft.

So your cpu isn't bottlenecking your gpu, your cpu is chugging along just fine, but the game code means it's not putting out the frames you'd want, and the gpu is not needing to use its full capacity, just it's full ability.

If you change games, usage changes, different results.

 

[boju]

Cpu usages can be misleading if one didn't understand a game's engine like CS or state of their OS / background apps. But even if one didn't understand all of that completely, measuring the cpu's usage can still valuable information to start investigate a potential solution. Stutters or frame drops due to lack of pre-rendered frames can be the result of the cpu maxing out.

Many here wouldn't like 100% cpu usage and will be quick to find out why.

 

[CountMike]

Simply said, if one component hits 100% that would also mean it would really need 120, 150 or whatever percent to give adequate performance at given setting of given game/application. That is a bottleneck for that component only, CPU for instance and the other component, in this case GPU is judged on it's own merit.
Keep in mind that even some lower percentages like 80 - 90% may mean inadequate component performance.

 

[boju]

Simply said, if one component hits 100% that would also mean it would really need 120, 150 or whatever percent to give adequate performance at given setting of given game/application. That is a bottleneck for that component only, CPU for instance and the other component, in this case GPU is judged on it's own merit.
Keep in mind that even some lower percentages like 80 - 90% may mean inadequate component performance.

Yeah, so the op needs to find out and determine if there's something eating away at his cpu before playing games or they need an upgrade because the frame pre-rendering alone for a 1050Ti wouldn't be enough to cause their cpu too much trouble.

 

[Karadjgne]

Game depending. My skyrim runs over 170 mods, that's all scripted code, very cpu dependent. Drops my i7-3770K to @ 60fps. And goes from 2-3 threads to 6 thread usage. Vanilla skyrim is over 180 fps. CSGO maxed with everything still gets 300fps, 2-3 threads. If I actually played Witcher3 or BF5 I could expect @ 60-70fps.

But I agree, I'm doubting it's hardware related shortages more so software/settings.

And you really can't say a cpu is a bottleneck just because it doesn't perform to a person's expectations. That's more to do with that person setting expectations too high. Simple answer, get a stronger cpu. They do make them.