Is this PC build good?

[kevinligilbert]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RLyypG
I have already bought some parts
(I know everyone has there own opinions on AIO's and air coolers, but I just want to get an AIO because all the good air coolers (in my opinion) are HUGE and take up too much space while AIO's I feel take up less. Don't get me wrong I still like air coolers though

 

[jimthenagual]

I can't see any way to make it better. Maybe 3200 ram, but that's nitpicking. Personal preferences aside, that is a beautiful system.

 

[kevinligilbert]

Thank you!

 

[mrmez]

I'd ditch the sata SSD for an M.2

 

[kevinligilbert]

yeah I originally did that but decided to ditch the m.2 for a 15 8600k instead of an i5 8400

 

[toshibitsu]

Unless you specifically get a Samsung 960 Evo/Pro M.2, then you won't notice much of a speed difference compared to 2.5 SSD's. Those specific Samsung ones get 3000+ Mbps / 2000+ Mbps read/write, whereas all other M.2's/2.5's average around 500+ Mbps / 400+ Mbps read/write.

 

[mrmez]

For the amount you're spending, seems a shame to compromise such a good system.

ADATA, Corsair and Intel all have m.2 ssd with a minimum 2,500Mb/s reads.

 

[kevinligilbert]

i'll see what I can do.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

A few changes here and there :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (Purchased For $245.00)
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($147.33 @ OutletPC)
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly - Conductonaut 1g Thermal Paste ($15.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (Purchased For $122.00)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.00)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB DUKE OC Video Card ($550.00)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $70.00)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($83.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer - XG270HU 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor (Purchased For $280.00)
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 RGB RAPIDFIRE Wired Gaming Keyboard (Purchased For $110.00)
Mouse: SteelSeries - Sensei 310 Wired Optical Mouse ($44.04 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Corsair - VOID PRO RGB USB (Black) 7.1 Channel Headset (Purchased For $65.00)
Other: In Win Aurora Fan Kit Black/Red, 3 RGB LED120mm High Performance Silent cooling Computer Case Fan, 2 Addressable LED Strips, Control Box Anti-vibration mounted setup ($79.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $2315.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-13 01:51 EST-0500

 

[kevinligilbert]

Thanks, but I really don't want an extra 100 dollars (I'm already going past my original budget enough), at max I can probably only spend about 50 dollars extra.

 

[kevinligilbert]

Also, I found Adata m.2 nvme ssd that is around 30 dollars more than my original ssd is it worth getting that instead?
ssd: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=9SIADF16R03261

 

[Lucky_SLS]

No no, I suggested the Samsung 860 cuz of its speed. I would never compromise performance over some manageable cables. Furthermore, the inwin fans I listed can be daisy chained so there is even less cable management for you. It doesn't need an rgb hub, can be directly controlled via msi mystic aura.

So did some fine tuning and this is what I could do without compromising the performance :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (Purchased For $245.00)
CPU Cooler: EVGA - CLC 240 74.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly - Conductonaut 1g Thermal Paste ($15.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (Purchased For $122.00)
Memory: Team - Night Hawk RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($134.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.00)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB DUKE OC Video Card ($550.00)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $70.00)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer - XG270HU 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor (Purchased For $280.00)
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 RGB RAPIDFIRE Wired Gaming Keyboard (Purchased For $110.00)
Mouse: SteelSeries - Sensei 310 Wired Optical Mouse ($44.04 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Corsair - VOID PRO RGB USB (Black) 7.1 Channel Headset (Purchased For $65.00)
Other: In Win Aurora Fan Kit Black/Red, 3 RGB LED120mm High Performance Silent cooling Computer Case Fan, 2 Addressable LED Strips, Control Box Anti-vibration mounted setup ($79.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $2213.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-13 20:59 EST-0500

 

[kevinligilbert]

Thanks, I just considered the Adata because it's faster than SATA 3

 

[Lucky_SLS]

It maybe faster, but it's tlc nand, meaning less life and reliability. The Samsung 860 and mx500 are mlc nand. Much better endurance and life time.

Edit : mx500 is also 3d tlc but it extra buffer cache and has a longer endurance.

 

[lakimens]

It's very good, but as others said, you might want to consider one of these, 5x the speed of SATA III:

Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($225.10 @ B&H)

 

[kevinligilbert]

what about this one? the Samsung ones are way too expensive but this one says it has MLC NAND with SLC caching
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIADF16R02569&cm_re=m.2_nvme_ssd-_-0D9-0017-00073-_-Product

 

[Lucky_SLS]

^ That's a decent one

But really though, if your main task is gaming, u will see absolutely no gains from going for a nvme ssd.

The load times are almost identical. Might as well save some cash there by going for the mx500.

 

[kevinligilbert]

Ok, thanks! Also, I see you added a Kraken in the first build you suggested, Can you vouch for it? or is it better than the Celsius s36? I just heard it had pump issues so I stayed away

 

[mrmez]

Good. Not as fast as the Samsung, but way faster than sata.

Also, MS allows you to legally install and use W10 (with some restrictions and annoyances) without purchasing.
You can do that for a month or two, then buy and enter the product key.
They also allow you to trial the enterprise edition for 90 days, however after that, I'm not sure if you can enter a Home code (and downgrade), or if you need to re-install the home version.

Either way, that could buy some time so you can get the right hardware now.
Assuming you were actually going to buy W10, or course. Hahaha.

 

[vexicus]

Prices fr 1080 are skyrocketing now.....even a decent 1080 will cost around $800-900 ....so, I'll suggest u to go using used route.... nowadays used 980ti's go fr roughly around $250-330 in the used market...so purchase two of them nd run them in SLI...that would give better fps....here is an ad from hardwareswap..just found it....
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/7t6acg/usaks_h_evga_980_ti_6gb_sc_w_local_cash/
Also....fr the cooler...go fr h110i as it is much more reliable

 

[mrmez]

The SLI route can be problematic. Some games scale very well, others not at all. It's a bit hit and miss.
You'll also need ~850w PSU for 2x 980ti's. So take that cost into consideration.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

I don't know where you heard that the kraken had pump issues. It's one of the best looking aio which is not just looks. Ofc, the s36 performs better than the kraken, but u there kraken is definitely has enough cooling for gaming workloads in that 8700k.

 

[lakimens]

I don't know where you heard that the kraken had pump issues. It's one of the best looking aio which is not just looks. Ofc, the s36 performs better than the kraken, but u there kraken is definitely has enough cooling for gaming workloads in that 8700k.

I'm confused. If the S36 performs better, why did you recommend the Kraken?

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Cuz both can do the job and kraken looks good while doing it XD

 

[Finstar]

If you feel like paying for Windows then get the non OEM version, it'll be less hassle when you upgrade or if your motherboard breaks down.
I personally absolutely regret spending 135€ on this horrible piece of shovelware.