Is this the same RAM? [newb]

[VSYNC_]

Hey as im a beginner/noob i cant conclude if this ram is the same.
so my ram is : http://prntscr.com/eolslc
The product : https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/316024/geil-black-dragon-8gb(2x4gb)-ddr3-pc3-12800.html

The problem why i cant decide is that it says ( On the product page) 1600 MHZ but on the CPU-Z (My System) it says i have 800 MHZ i read somewhere that you need to multiple the 800 is that true? because if you would multiplie it with 2 it would be 1600 but m not sure.

 

[gdmaclew]

Looks like it's OK. What does it display under the SPD tab?

 

[DRagor]

Correct, your current ram is 1600 MHz. Would need a picture from SPD tab to tell if it's the same ram.

 

[VSYNC_]

Looks like it's OK. What does it display under the SPD tab?

http://prntscr.com/eon6fk <-- i have 2 slots and they are the same so.. can i buy the one on the product page? because i want to have 4x4 4gbram ddr3 (16GB)

 

[VSYNC_]

Correct, your current ram is 1600 MHz. Would need a picture from SPD tab to tell if it's the same ram.

http://prntscr.com/eon6fk i can also prntscreen the SLOT 4 but i think its the same.. because i checked the numbers/values

 

[DRagor]

So what you have is this: GD38GB1600C9DC. And the product linked is this: GD38GB1600C11DC
It's not *the same*, but they *should* work together, as both support the 11-11-11-28 latency.
Side note: your current ram is not set up to full potential. You didn't turned XMP on it seems to me.

 

[VSYNC_]

So what you have is this: GD38GB1600C9DC. And the product linked is this: GD38GB1600C11DC
It's not *the same*, but they *should* work together, as both support the 11-11-11-28 latency.
Side note: your current ram is not set up to full potential. You didn't turned XMP on it seems to me.

So should i buy that RAM that i posed in the thread ^^ product link should it work together?

 

[DRagor]

Yes they should work together. Of course there's no 100% guaranty - only using a 4 stick kit gives you that.

 

[VSYNC_]

Yes they should work together. Of course there's no 100% guaranty - only using a 4 stick kit gives you that.

What do you recommend me

 

[DRagor]

So you have 8gb and want 16gb? Safest option is to sell old ram and buy new 2x8 gb kit. That way you know for sure you will not suffer any conflict.

 

[VSYNC_]

So what you have is this: GD38GB1600C9DC. And the product linked is this: GD38GB1600C11DC
It's not *the same*, but they *should* work together, as both support the 11-11-11-28 latency.
Side note: your current ram is not set up to full potential. You didn't turned XMP on it seems to me.

Hmm i was looking back to your comments but i think this argument is fake.:
I have the GD38GB1600C9DC and the linked one is : GD38GB1600C11DC <- that was your argument.
i think its fake as this product code"" gives 2 information :
GD38GB1600C9DC eg:
GD3
8GB
1600<Clock Speed
C9<Latency?!
and the same for the other product id/code whatever the only difference is the
C11 and C9 and i have a Latency of C11 : Printscreen Look into that.http://prntscr.com/epdwct
(Speccy) Piriform so that is why i think your argument is not valid as you said i have the GD38GB1600C9DC while the product linked : GD38GB1600C11DC but i think that is BS (Look printscreen) and description you can cleary see my CL/Latency is 11 and not 9 GD38GB1600C9DC <-- so not 9 <-- so not this product id...

 

[VSYNC_]

So you have 8gb and want 16gb? Safest option is to sell old ram and buy new 2x8 gb kit. That way you know for sure you will not suffer any conflict.

but what is more confusing is this when i open the information of one single slot it says :
http://prntscr.com/epdz1w but idk of part number is the same as CL 9 or CL 11 maybe its somethin else?

 

[DRagor]

Look at your SPD tab in cpuz: part number says "9-9-9 D3 1600" - that tells me your memory is ...C9, not ...C11. It is currently running at CL 11, as Memory tab lists - this is because to run it at CL9, you would need to turn XMP on - check the right column on SPD tab labeled "XMP-1600": it shows CL9.
Every memory is capable of operating on many different speed and latency settings, part number shows the best possible settings for given stick. Since your memory is capable of CL9, so its number is ...C9.

 

[VSYNC_]

Look at your SPD tab in cpuz: part number says "9-9-9 D3 1600" - that tells me your memory is ...C9, not ...C11. It is currently running at CL 11, as Memory tab lists - this is because to run it at CL9, you would need to turn XMP on - check the right column on SPD tab labeled "XMP-1600": it shows CL9.
Every memory is capable of operating on many different speed and latency settings, part number shows the best possible settings for given stick. Since your memory is capable of CL9, so its number is ...C9.

o so that is why you said they both should work as the CL-9 RAM Card can run on C9 or C11 but it runs at c9 if the XMP is turned on right?

 

[DRagor]

Right. Both (old and new) can work at CL 11. If you turn XMP on, old will work at CL9. But new is not capable of CL9, so with XMP it can only work at CL 11. Note that your board is most likely not capable of running each channel at different CL, that is why you would need to set them both to CL 11.

 

[VSYNC_]

Right. Both (old and new) can work at CL 11. If you turn XMP on, old will work at CL9. But new is not capable of CL9, so with XMP it can only work at CL 11. Note that your board is most likely not capable of running each channel at different CL, that is why you would need to set them both to CL 11.

can you confirm that the card i have rightnow the ram slot i have now runs at CL11?

 

[VSYNC_]

Right. Both (old and new) can work at CL 11. If you turn XMP on, old will work at CL9. But new is not capable of CL9, so with XMP it can only work at CL 11. Note that your board is most likely not capable of running each channel at different CL, that is why you would need to set them both to CL 11.

owh and can i ask how you got the product ID's?

 

[DRagor]

can you confirm that the card i have rightnow the ram slot i have now runs at CL11?

Your first picture, from Memory tab in cpuz: Timings> CAS # latency (CL) list 11.0 . Compare the numbers with 3rd column in SPD tab.

owh and can i ask how you got the product ID's?

Of your old RAM? Checked on Geil page which memory fits all settings listed on SPD tab.
The new one has product code listed on the link you provided (Specificaties>Meer informatie, last row named SKU)

 

[VSYNC_]

can you confirm that the card i have rightnow the ram slot i have now runs at CL11?

Your first picture, from Memory tab in cpuz: Timings> CAS # latency (CL) list 11.0 . Compare the numbers with 3rd column in SPD tab.

owh and can i ask how you got the product ID's?

Of your old RAM? Checked on Geil page which memory fits all settings listed on SPD tab.
The new one has product code listed on the link you provided (Specificaties>Meer informatie, last row named SKU)

Shall i buy the product linked yes or no i have no clue atm

 

[DRagor]

Interesting thing I just found, that link to the product is a bit of a lie. It lists this ram as "Black Dragon" series, but in fact it is "Dragon RAM" series. Black Dragon start with "GB...", this one is "GD...". Plus Black Dragon use higher voltages. But the have the same graphic printed on stick, so they look exactly same.

Now back to your question. What motherboard you have (need to know that to check available BIOS options)?

 

[VSYNC_]

Interesting thing I just found, that link to the product is a bit of a lie. It lists this ram as "Black Dragon" series, but in fact it is "Dragon RAM" series. Black Dragon start with "GB...", this one is "GD...". Plus Black Dragon use higher voltages. But the have the same graphic printed on stick, so they look exactly same.

Now back to your question. What motherboard you have (need to know that to check available BIOS options)?

B85-G43 Gaming
What a dissapointment

 

[DRagor]

Ok, I checked what options offers your motherboard's BIOS, and it looks good. It is possible to change memory setting separately at each channel, which increases chance to make both memory work. So if I was in your place, I would buy that memory - especially if seller gives option for returning it with full refund (minus shipping costs perhaps, but considering memory does not weight much, they should not be big). But be warned that making all memory work may require some (or even a lot) changes in BIOS. But maybe you'll get lucky and it will work from first start.