Is this what im suppose to do?

[YoVSif]

So i heard my case has 3 200mm fans and 2 140mm fans so is it ok and better if i fill up the case with the max fans i can? here is my build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LRbfzy. Please answer asap.

 

[woodson75]

I think 3 fans is enough for most builds

 

[JackNaylorPE]

There's no need for all those fans given the load inside that case. The case comes with 3 fans, there's room to install 3 more

Will you be overclocking ? What will machine be used for ?

The other things is the build appears a bit unbalanced. For X99 for example, you'll want to install 4 sticks of quad channel RAM.

Will you be using workstation apps ? If not, don't see the reason for X99 / 5820k. And if so, 2x4GB is likely inadequate.

 

[YoVSif]

I think 3 fans is enough for most builds

1.) This is a gaming PC build 2.) If you really insist on three fans for this extreme gaming build then shall I use the 200mm fans?

 

[JackNaylorPE]

If it's gaming build, I pick up some speed and switch to a Z170 / 6700k or Z97 / 4790k (4690k).... with the money saved on RAM, CPU and MoBo, upgrade to a 980 Ti... even with the 970, they'd still be faster

 

[YoVSif]

There's no need for all those fans given the load inside that case. The case comes with 3 fans, there's room to install 3 more

Will you be overclocking ? What will machine be used for ?

The other things is the build appears a bit unbalanced. For X99 for example, you'll want to install 4 sticks of quad channel RAM.

Will you be using workstation apps ? If not, don't see the reason for X99 / 5820k. And if so, 2x4GB is likely inadequate.

Ok i honestly don't understand most of the things you were saying but in the future i will be overclock. The machine will be used for extreme gaming and editing. Also for my budget gaming PC i can only afford 2 sticks of ram for 8 GB because i heard 8gb is more than enough for gaming. I don't understand what do you mean the other things appears a bit unbalanced? Everything's fine you don't make sense. A professional gave me that setup. I don't know whats workstation apps. Also i'm using the x99 board so i can later upgrade to anything i want Ex. i3, i5, i7. Does that answer your questions?

 

[Haloaddict44]

If you stay with the X99 platform(not that it's necessary), get 2 more sticks of ram, you currently have that running in dual channel on a quad channel system, so much wasted potential there.

 

[YoVSif]

If it's gaming build, I pick up some speed and switch to a Z170 / 6700k or Z97 / 4790k (4690k).... with the money saved on RAM, CPU and MoBo, upgrade to a 980 Ti... even with the 970, they'd still be faster

Also you don't even know what your talking about. My build is fine. Actually a killer build. I don't understand what you're trying to say but all i'm saying is that you actually give out bad advice i'm not trying to be rude but you gotta learn your own build.

 

[YoVSif]

If you stay with the X99 platform(not that it's necessary), get 2 more sticks of ram, you currently have that running in dual channel on a quad channel system, so much wasted potential there.

Can you please repeat that in a way i can understand? Are you saying to get 2 GB of ram? so it can total of 8 GB then use all the ram slots? If so why's that?

 

[FearfulSPARTAN]

If you stay with the X99 platform(not that it's necessary), get 2 more sticks of ram, you currently have that running in dual channel on a quad channel system, so much wasted potential there.

He doesnt have to upgrade to quad channel at all, there is no benefit to it if hes just doing gaming

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Ok i honestly don't understand most of the things you were saying but in the future i will be overclock. The machine will be used for extreme gaming and editing. Also for my budget gaming PC i can only afford 2 sticks of ram for 8 GB because i heard 8gb is more than enough for gaming. I don't understand what do you mean the other things appears a bit unbalanced? Everything's fine you don't make sense. A professional gave me that setup. I don't know whats workstation apps. Also i'm using the x99 board so i can later upgrade to anything i want Ex. i3, i5, i7. Does that answer your questions?

X99 is a high end workstation platform CPU .... Z97 supports up to 2 GFX cards in SLI, and when gamers want more than that, the logical move is to go to X99 and 3 or 4 GFX cards. With 1 or 2 GFX cards, when Z97 goes head to head with X99, Z97 wins more than it loses. As gaming does not use hyperthreading; gamers looking to maximize their budget will oft drop down to a 4690k saving $100 and investing that money in a more expensive GFX card. When that happens it's no longer a win some / lose some comparison, the Z97 build with the more expensive GFX card will toast the X99 system.

Now Z170 / Skyalke is replacing Z97 / Devils Canyon. Like every new generation, it comes with a speed improvement over the previous one. The proper RAM set up for each platform is as follows:

Z97 uses 2 sticks of DDR3 in dual channel mode
Z170 uses 2 sticks of DDR4 in dual channel mode
X99 uses 4 sticks of DDR4 in quad channel mode

Your putting dual channel RAM in a quad channel board.... not the recommended application.

When I say "unbalanced", what I am saying is the components are mot of similar performance level and quality. The parts in some cases are just not "in sync". Putting a budget CPU cooler on a high end end board. Kind alike putting $200 chrome rims on a $500 car.

If you are on a budget, limiting yourself to a Hyper 212 and 2 x 4GB, your money is mispent on the expensive MoBo and CPU. If you are going to "spring" for a quad channel Motherboard, then you should stick quad channel RAM in it.

He doesnt have to upgrade to quad channel at all, there is no benefit to it if hes just doing gaming

If he is just doing gaming, there is absolutely no benefit .... no, better said there is a performance penalty using X99 instead of Z97. Even ignoring the RAM mismatch, you can increase performance with a Z97 board and a 4690k and the $195 saved puts you in a 980 with money to spare .... and which will be about 20% faster than the X99 / 970 system ... for less money.

 

[FearfulSPARTAN]

Just because its a gaming build doesnt mean it needs that many fans, my pc has 2 and its plenty cool. Even with overclocking you should be fine with just 3 fans, 2 intake and 1 outake is pretty balanced and having more will just make it noisier.

 

[YoVSif]

Ok i honestly don't understand most of the things you were saying but in the future i will be overclock. The machine will be used for extreme gaming and editing. Also for my budget gaming PC i can only afford 2 sticks of ram for 8 GB because i heard 8gb is more than enough for gaming. I don't understand what do you mean the other things appears a bit unbalanced? Everything's fine you don't make sense. A professional gave me that setup. I don't know whats workstation apps. Also i'm using the x99 board so i can later upgrade to anything i want Ex. i3, i5, i7. Does that answer your questions?

X99 is a high end workstation platform CPU .... Z97 supports up to 2 GFX cards in SLI, and when gamers want more than that, the logical move is to go to X99 and 3 or 4 GFX cards. With 1 or 2 GFX cards, when Z97 goes head to head with X99, Z97 wins more than it loses. As gaming does not use hyperthreading; gamers looking to maximize their budget will oft drop down to a 4690k saving $100 and investing that money in a more expensive GFX card. When that happens it's no longer a win some / lose some comparison, the Z97 build with the more expensive GFX card will toast the X99 system.

Now Z170 / Skyalke is replacing Z97 / Devils Canyon. Like every new generation, it comes with a speed improvement over the previous one. The proper RAM set up for each platform is as follows:

Z97 uses 2 sticks of DDR3 in dual channel mode
Z170 uses 2 sticks of DDR4 in dual channel mode
X99 uses 4 sticks of DDR4 in quad channel mode

Your putting dual channel RAM in a quad channel board.... not the recommended application.

When I say "unbalanced", what I am saying is the components are mot of similar performance level and quality. The parts in some cases are just not "in sync". Putting a budget CPU cooler on a high end end board. Kind alike putting $200 chrome rims on a $500 car.

If you are on a budget, limiting yourself to a Hyper 212 and 2 x 4GB, your money is mispent on the expensive MoBo and CPU. If you are going to "spring" for a quad channel Motherboard, then you should stick quad channel RAM in it.

ohhhhh i understand more batter .. so for me i just need a z97 board? also i just need 1 gpu maybe later might get extra lol ty and whats that z170 thing got to do?

 

[YoVSif]

Just because its a gaming build doesnt mean it needs that many fans, my pc has 2 and its plenty cool. Even with overclocking you should be fine with just 3 fans, 2 intake and 1 outake is pretty balanced and having more will just make it noisier.

for my case theres only 1 fron intake 1 rear intake and 1 bottem and i think thats what im going to do instead of 2 intake from the front so i will do 1 blowing and cooling front then it will cool from bottem also then all that go to rear exhaust fan!@ is it good plan?

 

[FearfulSPARTAN]

Just because its a gaming build doesnt mean it needs that many fans, my pc has 2 and its plenty cool. Even with overclocking you should be fine with just 3 fans, 2 intake and 1 outake is pretty balanced and having more will just make it noisier.

for my case theres only 1 fron intake 1 rear intake and 1 bottem and i think thats what im going to do instead of 2 intake from the front so i will do 1 blowing and cooling front then it will cool from bottem also then all that go to rear exhaust fan!@ is it good plan?

Sounds good to me

 

[woodson75]

Ok i honestly don't understand most of the things you were saying but in the future i will be overclock. The machine will be used for extreme gaming and editing. Also for my budget gaming PC i can only afford 2 sticks of ram for 8 GB because i heard 8gb is more than enough for gaming. I don't understand what do you mean the other things appears a bit unbalanced? Everything's fine you don't make sense. A professional gave me that setup. I don't know whats workstation apps. Also i'm using the x99 board so i can later upgrade to anything i want Ex. i3, i5, i7. Does that answer your questions?

X99 is a high end workstation platform CPU .... Z97 supports up to 2 GFX cards in SLI, and when gamers want more than that, the logical move is to go to X99 and 3 or 4 GFX cards. With 1 or 2 GFX cards, when Z97 goes head to head with X99, Z97 wins more than it loses. As gaming does not use hyperthreading; gamers looking to maximize their budget will oft drop down to a 4690k saving $100 and investing that money in a more expensive GFX card. When that happens it's no longer a win some / lose some comparison, the Z97 build with the more expensive GFX card will toast the X99 system.

Now Z170 / Skyalke is replacing Z97 / Devils Canyon. Like every new generation, it comes with a speed improvement over the previous one. The proper RAM set up for each platform is as follows:

Z97 uses 2 sticks of DDR3 in dual channel mode
Z170 uses 2 sticks of DDR4 in dual channel mode
X99 uses 4 sticks of DDR4 in quad channel mode

Your putting dual channel RAM in a quad channel board.... not the recommended application.

When I say "unbalanced", what I am saying is the components are mot of similar performance level and quality. The parts in some cases are just not "in sync". Putting a budget CPU cooler on a high end end board. Kind alike putting $200 chrome rims on a $500 car.

If you are on a budget, limiting yourself to a Hyper 212 and 2 x 4GB, your money is mispent on the expensive MoBo and CPU. If you are going to "spring" for a quad channel Motherboard, then you should stick quad channel RAM in it.

ohhhhh i understand more batter .. so for me i just need a z97 board? also i just need 1 gpu maybe later might get extra lol ty and whats that z170 thing got to do?

Z170 is the new mobo/chipset architecture coming with the new 6th Gen. Intel CPUs ("Skylake")

 

[YoVSif]

Just because its a gaming build doesnt mean it needs that many fans, my pc has 2 and its plenty cool. Even with overclocking you should be fine with just 3 fans, 2 intake and 1 outake is pretty balanced and having more will just make it noisier.

for my case theres only 1 fron intake 1 rear intake and 1 bottem and i think thats what im going to do instead of 2 intake from the front so i will do 1 blowing and cooling front then it will cool from bottem also then all that go to rear exhaust fan!@ is it good plan?

Sounds good to me

yayayay! thnx for support pce out!

 

[YoVSif]

someone help! i cant find the z97 board on pcpartpicker help please!!!!!

 

[JackNaylorPE]

ohhhhh i understand more batter .. so for me i just need a z97 board? also i just need 1 gpu maybe later might get extra lol ty and whats that z170 thing got to do?

Before going further I'd suggest that when you ask for help, you don't insult the people you are asking to help you. I have been doing windows based builds for 23 years.

The current consumer platform is Z170 (uses 6xxx series CPUs aka Sky Lake). It uses dual channel RAM. .... It's predecessor was the Z97 platform (4x90 series CPUs aka devils canyon). Before that we had Z87 platform (4x70 CPUs aka Haswell) ... and before that we had Ivy Bridge (3xxx) and Sandy Bridge (2xxx)

X99 is the current workstation platform. It was preceded by X99. Both use quad channel RAM. Gamers move up from the "consumer" platform to the workstation platform when they run out of PCI-E lanes. Each nVidia GFX card in SLI needs 8 lanes.... Z97 provided 16 lanes meaning it could handle 2 GFX cards (not gonna talk about PLX). So if a gamer wanted a 3rd GFX card (x8, x8, x8) , and say PCI based SSD (x4), then they went to the 28 lane 5820k. Want 4 cards ? then the 5930k w/ 40 lanes.

So.... if you are only using 1 GFX card, then you will get no gaming benefit over a 4790k / 4690k. If you were also doing CAD or other workstation apps, you got the 4790k with Hyperthreading. If you used some realluy demanding workstation apps, then you did have a reason to go to X9 as the extra threads help.... but many mistakenly believe CAD for example benefits from X99 (and quadro cards) but the truth of the matter is they do not. AutoCAD 2D and 3D work better on GTX cards.

If you want to compare the 5820k and the 4690k with apps you use, look at anandtech's CPU bench. Then gauge whether any difference is worth $200 not counting the RAM premium....or can that money be betetr spent on a bigger GFX card, SSD or SSHD.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1320?vs=1261

Scroll down tot he bottom and we see that the $219 4690k is faster (min fps) than the 4380 5820k in 4 out of the 5 games tested, one almost twice as fast. Look at the next 5 up from the bottom and the 4690k takes 3 outta 5. The 5820k has a 10% advantage in Sysmark media creation (video editing) . But if we move up tot he 4790k w/ HT, then we see that Z97 w/ the 4790k beats the 5820k by 10% ... and still saves a nice chunk of change ($100+).

So the 5820k costs more and delivers less. You'll need a 3rd GFX card in the mix to make the investment worthwhile.

someone help! i cant find the z97 board on pcpartpicker help please!!!!!

You'll need to change CPU, RAM and MoBo

4790k - $280 (saves $100)
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74790k
4690k (saves $160)
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k

MSI Gaming 5 - $135 (saves $55)
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z97gaming5
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/msi_z97_gaming_6_review/10

MSi 980 - $480 (+$175)
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx980gaming4g

Mushkin 2133 CAS 9 (2 x 4GB) - same price only high end modules w/CAS 9 instead of 15
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/mushkin-memory-997122f

 

[YoVSif]

ohhhhh i understand more batter .. so for me i just need a z97 board? also i just need 1 gpu maybe later might get extra lol ty and whats that z170 thing got to do?

Before going further I'd suggest that when you ask for help, you don't insult the people you are asking to help you. I have been doing windows based builds for 23 years.

The current consumer platform is Z170 (uses 6xxx series CPUs aka Sky Lake). It uses dual channel RAM. .... It's predecessor was the Z97 platform (4x90 series CPUs aka devils canyon). Before that we had Z87 platform (4x70 CPUs aka Haswell) ... and before that we had Ivy Bridge (3xxx) and Sandy Bridge (2xxx)

X99 is the current workstation platform. It was preceded by X99. Both use quad channel RAM. Gamers move up from the "consumer" platform to the workstation platform when they run out of PCI-E lanes. Each nVidia GFX card in SLI needs 8 lanes.... Z97 provided 16 lanes meaning it could handle 2 GFX cards (not gonna talk about PLX). So if a gamer wanted a 3rd GFX card (x8, x8, x8) , and say PCI based SSD (x4), then they went to the 28 lane 5820k. Want 4 cards ? then the 5930k w/ 40 lanes.

So.... if you are only using 1 GFX card, then you will get no gaming benefit over a 4790k / 4690k. If you were also doing CAD or other workstation apps, you got the 4790k with Hyperthreading. If you used some realluy demanding workstation apps, then you did have a reason to go to X9 as the extra threads help.... but many mistakenly believe CAD for example benefits from X99 (and quadro cards) but the truth of the matter is they do not. AutoCAD 2D and 3D work better on GTX cards.

If you want to compare the 5820k and the 4690k with apps you use, look at anandtech's CPU bench. Then gauge whether any difference is worth $200 not counting the RAM premium....or can that money be betetr spent on a bigger GFX card, SSD or SSHD.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1320?vs=1261

Scroll down tot he bottom and we see that the $219 4690k is faster (min fps) than the 4380 5820k in 4 out of the 5 games tested, one almost twice as fast. Look at the next 5 up from the bottom and the 4690k takes 3 outta 5. The 5820k has a 10% advantage in Sysmark media creation (video editing) . But if we move up tot he 4790k w/ HT, then we see that Z97 w/ the 4790k beats the 5820k by 10% ... and still saves a nice chunk of change ($100+).

So the 5820k costs more and delivers less. You'll need a 3rf GFX card in the mix to make the investment worthwhile.

I sincerely apologize i wasn't trying to insult you i thanks you in the comment bro for helping when i was like i didn't understand and plus you really don't have to show off that you have 23 years of skill... this is my first build i been so cautious you believe that i been still thinking for 2 years and watching videos and everything i just wanna be careful regardless of w.e thanks for the help and i honestly didn't understand the comment you just said the guy that comments right after you is right i should just go with a z97 board and save extra money and get a better gpu and get i5-4690k so thanks for your help anyway really appreciate it.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Your replacement parts in in my edited post above

here's how those MoBos in the link rank by total fps with the fastest one assigned 1200% and all the others ranked by how fast they were compared thereto:

MSI Z97 Gaming 9 - 100.00%
MSI Z97 Gaming 5 - 99.86%
MSI Z97A Gaming 6 - 98.96%
Asus Z97 TUF Sabranco - 96.13%
Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 5 - 95.00%
Gigabyte Z97X SOC Force - 94.95%
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Hero - 93.67%
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Formula - 93.58%
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Gene - 91.69%
Asus Z97-A - 89.57%
MSI Z97 Mpower MAX AC - 88.20%
MSI Z97S Krait SLI - 71.01%


And here's how their owners rank them based upon newegg users reviews ... when ya see say 27%, that means 27% of peeps who own the board gave the worst possible 1 egg rating

Asus Z97 TUF Sabranco - 3% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132414
MSI Z97 Mpower MAX AC - 4% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130765
MSI Z97 Gaming 5 - 10% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130770
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Gene - 11% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132136
MSI Z97A Gaming 6 - 12% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128709
Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 5 - 14% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128709
MSI Z97S Krait SLI 19% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130801
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Hero - 19% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132125
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Formula - 26% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132247
Asus Z97-A - 27% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132118
MSI Z97 Gaming 9 - 28% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130808
Gigabyte Z97X SOC Force - 29% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128704

If ya not getting an SSD, I'd suggest getting the 50% speed boost out of an SSHD.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dx001
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/hdd-charts-2013/-17-PCMark-7-Gaming,2915.html
SSHD = 9.76 MB/s
WD Black = 6.34 MB/s

 

[YoVSif]

Your replacement parts in in my edited post above

here's how those MoBos in the link rank by total fps with the fastest one assigned 1200% and all the others ranked by how fast they were compared thereto:

MSI Z97 Gaming 9 - 100.00%
MSI Z97 Gaming 5 - 99.86%
MSI Z97A Gaming 6 - 98.96%
Asus Z97 TUF Sabranco - 96.13%
Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 5 - 95.00%
Gigabyte Z97X SOC Force - 94.95%
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Hero - 93.67%
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Formula - 93.58%
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Gene - 91.69%
Asus Z97-A - 89.57%
MSI Z97 Mpower MAX AC - 88.20%
MSI Z97S Krait SLI - 71.01%


And here's how their owners rank them based upon newegg users reviews ... when ya see say 27%, that means 27% of peeps who own the board gave the worst possible 1 egg rating

Asus Z97 TUF Sabranco - 3% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132414
MSI Z97 Mpower MAX AC - 4% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130765
MSI Z97 Gaming 5 - 10% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130770
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Gene - 11% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132136
MSI Z97A Gaming 6 - 12% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128709
Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 5 - 14% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128709
MSI Z97S Krait SLI 19% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130801
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Hero - 19% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132125
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Formula - 26% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132247
Asus Z97-A - 27% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132118
MSI Z97 Gaming 9 - 28% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130808
Gigabyte Z97X SOC Force - 29% http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128704

Last question before you go is this build the same as yours? or is yours wayyyy better http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MjxQWZ

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Well....

27% of Asus Z97-A owners gave it a horrible 1 egg rating versus jusy 10% for the MSI Gaming 5
The MSI Gaming 5 is more than 10% faster than the Asus Z97-A

The corsairs are 1600 speed
The Mushkins are 2133 and have better quality modules.

You no longer have a GFX card

The SSHD above is 50% faster than the Black

You might consider a case upgrade unless the aesthetics of the one you listed really rings a bell. Even with the MSI 980, you are still $40 under original budget....if ya keep the 970, then ya have $200 left

The Phanteks Enthoo Luxe is $150 and comes with 3 "best on market" fans. It also comes with built in fan PCB to control all fans via the MoBo and a 10 color RGB LED system. Personally I like the white one... which with the fans is $159 ... $30 more than yours ... but you get a lot more.... LED system worth $30 ... Fan PCB costs $20.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-case-phes614lwt

And if ya want bigger overclocks.... consider a cooler upgrade
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-cpu-cooler-phtc14pe

Finally, do ya think you will ever add a 2nd GFX card ? If so....

This will do two 970s and is just $45
http://www.ncixus.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&sku=97531&vpn=110-B2-0750-VR&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1424

If ya opted for the 980... this will cover ya if ya add a 2nd one in 18 months or so for $70
http://www.ncixus.com/products/?usaffiliateid=1000031504&sku=98820&vpn=110-B2-0850-V1&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1424