Is this worth it?

[Moonpig]

Sorry in advance if this is not in the right thread.

I have a Dell Computer with:

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4130 CPU @ 3.40GHz

GPU: GeForce GTX 750 Ti

Memory: 8GB Ram

Windows 10

and wanna know if this computer when its on sale for 749 from IGN newsletter if its worth buying if it does increase my performance enough http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-8900-desktop/pd?oc=cax8900w7ph1057&dgc=BA&cid=302588&lid=5756006&acd=12309224687360143c99833680&ven3=572603526637851705 .

 

[WildCard999]

Edit: Your better off building a system from scratch, it will be much cheaper for a significantly better system and you can use the GTX 750 ti & the HDD from your current system until you can save for a better GPU upgrade.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($213.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($93.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($84.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $659.20

If you need a i7 or Xeon for multitasking, rendering or recording of some sort then I would recommend this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V5 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($251.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI C236A WORKSTATION ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($44.99 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($84.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $738.32

 

[xapoc]

Not worth the upgrade for 749. Keep looking for something better.

 

[Moonpig]

It's a better CPU but for the cost your better off upgrading your current system by getting a 1150 socket i5 (or Xeon *Make sure the MB will support the upgrade*), increasing RAM to 16gb (if possible), adding in a SSD for the OS if you don't currently have one, getting a better PSU and getting a better GPU or saving for something better. You may need a new case as well.

I've only replaced my GPU with this computer is there a site that really explains how to know if something is compatible? like for example if i list what my specs are and then post what MB im looking into getting that it tell me if its compatible or if ill need to also replace something else? also replacing all those that u listed sound like that would be quite expansive, so what should i try to replace first cept the GPU i just got it not long ago, and most games i play i get from 40-60 fps so thats not an issue for now, im thinking its either SSD or MB and PSU.

 

[Moonpig]

Edit: Your better off building a system from scratch, it will be much cheaper for a significantly better system and you can use the GTX 750 ti & the HDD from your current system until you can save for a better GPU upgrade.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($213.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($93.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($84.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $659.20

If you need a i7 or Xeon for multitasking, rendering or recording of some sort then I would recommend this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V5 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($251.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI C236A WORKSTATION ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($44.99 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($84.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $738.32

ah thank you, also would it be best to save up that extra 100$ even if i dont record or multitask for future high end games or replace whenever that happens? and do you know a guide for how to build you own computer for the first time?

 

[xapoc]

Since his budget is 749, should have included faster memory and not weak 2133.

 

[WildCard999]

If your just gaming the i5 is plenty and I would put the savings into getting a GTX 1060 6gb as that will be a worthwhile upgrade if your gaming @1080P or less resolution. If higher resolution then I would save for the 1070 8gb.

As far as building a system there are a ton of guides/videos online that will explain everything in good detail but if you have questions then post them here on TH and well be more then happy to help you.

 

[WildCard999]

Since his budget is 749, should have included faster memory and not weak 2133.

The difference in RAM speeds, especially if the OP is just gaming is very minimal and isn't worth the extra cost. I also chose Gskill since they make high quality memory and its lifetime warrantied.

 

[xapoc]

Since his budget is 749, should have included faster memory and not weak 2133.

The difference in RAM speeds, especially if the OP is just gaming is very minimal and isn't worth the extra cost. I also chose Gskill since they make high quality memory and its lifetime warrantied.

Np.

 

[Moonpig]

Since his budget is 749, should have included faster memory and not weak 2133.

The difference in RAM speeds, especially if the OP is just gaming is very minimal and isn't worth the extra cost. I also chose Gskill since they make high quality memory and its lifetime warrantied.

Np.

just want to state thats not my budget its just the comp goes on sale often that i would get it then if it was a big improvement that was worth it

 

[WildCard999]

Going from the i3 to the i7 will help at little bit in CPU based applications and games but I think its a bad idea to buy a Dell prebuilt since the MB & PSU are typically low quality. Plus they don't leave you with much to upgrade. You might even be able to upgrade your current system with a new PSU, SSD, GPU & CPU but you will need to list the MB so we can make list the correct upgrade. Also specify your current memory or link all the specs to this post.

 

[Moonpig]

Going from the i3 to the i7 will help at little bit in CPU based applications and games but I think its a bad idea to buy a Dell prebuilt since the MB & PSU are typically low quality. Plus they don't leave you with much to upgrade. You might even be able to upgrade your current system with a new PSU, SSD, GPU & CPU but you will need to list the MB so we can make list the correct upgrade. Also specify your current memory or link all the specs to this post.

I am just gonna build from scratch from ur list, just 1 question im on my computer like all day with everything in that list, the first 1, will there be a heat problem and need to get better fans?

edit: i have a question i went to superbiiz to look at the case and i copied pasted ur suggestion and see a black-green thats like 20 more and a black-red/blue thats the price u listed, tho u only have plain black so not sure if its the same, is there a difference in space http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=CA-S340GR2 red/blue , http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=CA-S340WRA green, just asking dont see a difference but just wanting to make sure, im looking into the green 1 since it has the razer logo and since i have a razor mouse itll match and just think thats nice.

 

[WildCard999]

There all the same size for case and for cooling the stock Intel coolers should suffice but if they do end up overheating then you could always grab a cheap cooler such as the CM EVO 212 ($30). There's also other choices for cases but NZXT makes really nice ones and S340 are good with plenty of options for upgrades but there's also the H440 series and Phantom series but there more expensive. I have the Noctis 450 which is almost exact to the H440 and I like it.

 

[Moonpig]

There all the same size for case and for cooling the stock Intel coolers should suffice but if they do end up overheating then you could always grab a cheap cooler such as the CM EVO 212 ($30). There's also other choices for cases but NZXT makes really nice ones and S340 are good with plenty of options for upgrades but there's also the H440 series and Phantom series but there more expensive. I have the Noctis 450 which is almost exact to the H440 and I like it.

ah ok thanks

 

[theonerm2]

Why not just buy a Core i5 4460 and pop it in your motherboard?

 

[Moonpig]

Going from the i3 to the i7 will help at little bit in CPU based applications and games but I think its a bad idea to buy a Dell prebuilt since the MB & PSU are typically low quality. Plus they don't leave you with much to upgrade. You might even be able to upgrade your current system with a new PSU, SSD, GPU & CPU but you will need to list the MB so we can make list the correct upgrade. Also specify your current memory or link all the specs to this post.

this is my computer that i bought so its all the same cept the GPU, idk if the MB is listed or how to find it otherwise
http://www.cnet.com/products/dell-inspiron-3847-core-i3-4130-3-4-ghz-4-gb-1-tb-english/specs/

 

[WildCard999]

Going from the i3 to the i7 will help at little bit in CPU based applications and games but I think its a bad idea to buy a Dell prebuilt since the MB & PSU are typically low quality. Plus they don't leave you with much to upgrade. You might even be able to upgrade your current system with a new PSU, SSD, GPU & CPU but you will need to list the MB so we can make list the correct upgrade. Also specify your current memory or link all the specs to this post.

this is my computer that i bought so its all the same cept the GPU, idk if the MB is listed or how to find it otherwise
http://www.cnet.com/products/dell-inspiron-3847-core-i3-4130-3-4-ghz-4-gb-1-tb-english/specs/

Looking at the specs you should be able to update it although you may need to update the BIOS but you would want to try the new CPU in that socket (1150) before updating as a BIOS update does have a small chance of bricking the MB. Also this way you won't need to buy a new OS and can put the savings towards a bigger SSD. You did say you wanted a Black/Green case so I picked the NZXT Phantom and it doesn't have a side window which is probably a good thing since those stock MB's are kind of fugly and you can use a disk drive if needed in this case over the NZXT S340. These parts should be compatible with your current setup.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Value 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black/Green) ATX Full Tower Case ($114.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $578.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-22 21:42 EDT-0400

The i5-4590 pairs nicely with the GTX 750 ti as I had the exact same parts in a ITX build and it had no issues playing games like BF4 and Batman around medium-high settings 1080P/60FPS. And its still a good CPU when/if you decide to upgrade to a 10XX series GTX or RX 4XX model GPU. Here is a guide on how to migrate the OS from the HDD to the SSD.

http://lifehacker.com/5837543/how-to-migrate-to-a-solid-state-drive-without-reinstalling-windows

 

[Moonpig]

Going from the i3 to the i7 will help at little bit in CPU based applications and games but I think its a bad idea to buy a Dell prebuilt since the MB & PSU are typically low quality. Plus they don't leave you with much to upgrade. You might even be able to upgrade your current system with a new PSU, SSD, GPU & CPU but you will need to list the MB so we can make list the correct upgrade. Also specify your current memory or link all the specs to this post.

this is my computer that i bought so its all the same cept the GPU, idk if the MB is listed or how to find it otherwise
http://www.cnet.com/products/dell-inspiron-3847-core-i3-4130-3-4-ghz-4-gb-1-tb-english/specs/

Looking at the specs you should be able to update it although you may need to update the BIOS but you would want to try the new CPU in that socket (1150) before updating as a BIOS update does have a small chance of bricking the MB. Also this way you won't need to buy a new OS and can put the savings towards a bigger SSD. You did say you wanted a Black/Green case so I picked the NZXT Phantom and it doesn't have a side window which is probably a good thing since those stock MB's are kind of fugly and you can use a disk drive if needed in this case over the NZXT S340. These parts should be compatible with your current setup.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Value 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black/Green) ATX Full Tower Case ($114.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $578.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-22 21:42 EDT-0400

The i5-4590 pairs nicely with the GTX 750 ti as I had the exact same parts in a ITX build and it had no issues playing games like BF4 and Batman around medium-high settings 1080P/60FPS. And its still a good CPU when/if you decide to upgrade to a 10XX series GTX or RX 4XX model GPU. Here is a guide on how to migrate the OS from the HDD to the SSD.

http://lifehacker.com/5837543/how-to-migrate-to-a-solid-state-drive-without-reinstalling-windows

how much of a difference will doing this be compared to the first list of parts? since its not much of a difference in price.

 

[WildCard999]

Not a lot, CPU is a bit faster in the first build and there's DDR4 memory but that should make nearly no difference in gaming performance. The SSD is much larger in this rebuild of your current system (480 vs 250) and the PSU is quite better as well since it was manufactured by Super Flower who makes pretty much the best PSU's out there. For close to the same price you could get that better SSD and even get the Xeon which is similar to the i7, though not really needed for gaming as of now but could be utilized later on.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($252.55 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Value 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($157.30 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black/Green) ATX Full Tower Case ($114.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $668.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-22 22:34 EDT-0400

 

[WildCard999]

Sorry if I'm confusing you lol, just trying to think of the best price/performance upgrade and something that will last quite awhile.

 

[Moonpig]

Sorry if I'm confusing you lol, just trying to think of the best price/performance upgrade and something that will last quite awhile.

its ok, im gonna go with the first set and just build a new comp that'll be just for gaming, can u recommend a HDD that will be compatible with those parts?

 

[WildCard999]

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW9TW/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex

 

[Moonpig]

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW9TW/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex

thank you

 

[Moonpig]

Edit: Your better off building a system from scratch, it will be much cheaper for a significantly better system and you can use the GTX 750 ti & the HDD from your current system until you can save for a better GPU upgrade.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($213.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($93.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($84.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $659.20

I think I forgot to ask, but can any of these fit in my current motherboard? like the RAM,SSD? You know something I can get when its on a sale and use till I get the rest to increase my perfermance for now.

 

[WildCard999]

The only parts that could work on your current MB is the SSD, I'm not sure if the PSU will fit into your current case. The RAM will not work as its DDR4 and your current system is DDR3.